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Deca versus test for mass

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I don’t think I’ll ever use over 250 test again

how does deca compare to test for mass for you
 
I don’t think I’ll ever use over 250 test again

how does deca compare to test for mass for you

Great mass gainer above 600mg! Even using TRT and 400mg will put on mass. In the 70’s it was the go to mass builder: Deca and Ciba 5mg Dbol (small handful w breakfast!!lol).

Max
 
thats a very interesting question. i was taught (a very long time ago) that u dont run deca w/o test, so i never have and im not sure u should. pretty sure it has to do w/ the conversion science which im def. not an expert on. maybe someone else can chime in, because u def. have me curious. hell u prob. know by reading ur other post u seem to know the science stuff pretty well. i will say theres a big diff. between running test alone and test w/deca., but to compare the two u would have to run deca by itself,correct?
 
I think he’s talking about running TRT test with Deca compared to high test without Deca.
Personally, I like high test. Especially running Deca. I wouldn’t want my Deca to be higher than my test.
If you are talking about running Deca only then it is possible but you have to take like a gram or more so that you have enough estrogen conversion. I’ve never done that though and I probably wouldn’t recommend it either.
 
It looks like on paper deca has a higher myotrophic ability than test to put on mass. I’m wondering milligram per milligram do u think deca is atleast as strong and fast at putting on mass as test

id rather be running 600 to 900 of deca on top of 200-300 test and anadrol or some designers versus running 600 deca and 500 test on top of orals

im basically hoping to keep test low it gives me horrible acne and oily skin and it’s just not worth it so I’d like to use deca instead.
 
It looks like on paper deca has a higher myotrophic ability than test to put on mass. I’m wondering milligram per milligram do u think deca is atleast as strong and fast at putting on mass as test

id rather be running 600 to 900 of deca on top of 200-300 test and anadrol or some designers versus running 600 deca and 500 test on top of orals

im basically hoping to keep test low it gives me horrible acne and oily skin and it’s just not worth it so I’d like to use deca instead.
You can do it but ur probably gonna have sexual sides. Proviron and cialis would help. I personally wouldnt do it but thats me. But yes, on paper deca is about 25% more anabolic than test

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I don’t think I’ll ever use over 250 test again

how does deca compare to test for mass for you
People don't really need their test higher than TRT.. I go higher because I feel like a bull, but its not necessary. Only so many compounds can fit in the position with other aas and whatever there targeting tissue/REC's are..
Let the other compounds be the work horse for you.. You can most certainly use higher dose nandrolone with a low to moderate dose of test.. In all my years I haven't seen any actually real concrete PROOF that you need test higher than nanadrolone to avoid sides.. In fact I've seen more that goes the other way, toss in some mast to get your free T levels elevated, this will support with libido and mast or proviron can even assist as a neurosteroid that will help with brain functions that will help promote a better sense of well being.. Deca has always been my go to for staying full, mass, and muscle belly rounding (aside from diet/carbs).

see what works for you, you can also add sarms with this like MK677, and so on that will help promote size.. Just keep test in the mix so your body can do its best to function with its much needed hormone that will keep things within a balance.

I am really thinking about lowering T after this summer and going at just a trt dose and letting everything else do the work outside of my diet..I would rather save the volume for something else..
 
What’s the lower t dose with that cycle?


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What if I had prop laying around from a bulk sale can I run like 150 e and 150 prop ?


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I like 3-400 mgs better anyway of test at 200 my level was only 400 ngl my doc said he wa nTed me closer to 900


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I like 3-400 mgs better anyway of test at 200 my level was only 400 ngl my doc said he wa nTed me closer to 900


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Im a low responder as well. 200mgs gets me in the 700's
 
They're both great

Here's a simple rule -

If you try something, do everything the best way you know how, and it gives you terrible sides, just don't do that again.

Simple Rule #2 (most important imo) -

If the drugs are negatively impacting the way you train and eat, stop doing what you're doing and adjust them.

High test is a great recipe to pack on tons of lean tissue. It's the BEST way imo but, if high test gives you issues, especially controlling estrogen, then deca would be the obvious choice.

I would still run test as high as you can while being comfortable and add whatever dose of deca on top.

400mg test and 400 deca is a pretty good little combo if, you're pounding food. If you're NOT pounding food, doesn't matter what drugs you're using.
 
They're both great

Here's a simple rule -

If you try something, do everything the best way you know how, and it gives you terrible sides, just don't do that again.

Simple Rule #2 (most important imo) -

If the drugs are negatively impacting the way you train and eat, stop doing what you're doing and adjust them.

High test is a great recipe to pack on tons of lean tissue. It's the BEST way imo but, if high test gives you issues, especially controlling estrogen, then deca would be the obvious choice.

I would still run test as high as you can while being comfortable and add whatever dose of deca on top.

400mg test and 400 deca is a pretty good little combo if, you're pounding food. If you're NOT pounding food, doesn't matter what drugs you're using.
This . Try both try just the 250 and then add the prop later. Then you'll know what's best for you. We all right technically cause my right is ur wrong and visions right is my wrong.

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my bad. i misunderstood the question. im like trentrain, i like to run my test higher than deca, but some guys are the other way around. certainly what ur talking about(2-300 test and 6-900 deca would work great for a bulk-mass builder). everybody is a little diff. and u need to do what works best for u imo. good luck bro!
 
Basically a trt cruise / blast so I’ll probably stick with trt dose of deca might add 2-300 more npp we’ll see if I feel anything on trt dose first


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Thanks everyone for replies I can run test low and deca high and be free of sexual sides


i want test low because I am SICK of acne and oily skin. I mean I go to work in a normal climate and come home lathered one body oil.

also I want to avoid hair loss sides I saw a video on old school cycles like dbol primo deca and dbol will screw up my hairline but if I stick to deca and low test I figure I should be able to achieve goals without skin problems and minimize hair problems. Besides I think I want to be 215 220 max now instead of like 230
 
It looks like on paper deca has a higher myotrophic ability than test to put on mass. I’m wondering milligram per milligram do u think deca is atleast as strong and fast at putting on mass as test

id rather be running 600 to 900 of deca on top of 200-300 test and anadrol or some designers versus running 600 deca and 500 test on top of orals

im basically hoping to keep test low it gives me horrible acne and oily skin and it’s just not worth it so I’d like to use deca instead.
Lee Priest says thats all he use to run was deca. Hated test sides. Not sure its true or how the fuck he kept his dick in order but wtf knows.

Deca destroys my libido no matter what test dose i run however NPP doesnt so id prefer NPP for sides but deca has always been labeled the mass builder for off season. I would think test & nandrolone have a pretty good synergy as well for mass.

Experiment with it & let us know the results

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Over the yrs ,I've don't a ton of Deca.You find something that works..stick with it................Now I have never done more Deca than test,had no need........but I know people that do,hell give it a try...Always remember what works for Tom, dick and Harry...just might NOT work for you.....................There are ways of dealing with oily skin..try some new methods....I have never had 1 side from even 800mgs of Deca...............But for me the best dose is 3-400.........above that is a waste....FOR me,,,maybe not you.....
 
I don’t think I’ll ever use over 250 test again

how does deca compare to test for mass for you
I prefer 400-800mg test ew and 200-300mg deca myself. either way, great combo IMO
 
Thanks everyone for replies I can run test low and deca high and be free of sexual sides


i want test low because I am SICK of acne and oily skin. I mean I go to work in a normal climate and come home lathered one body oil.

also I want to avoid hair loss sides I saw a video on old school cycles like dbol primo deca and dbol will screw up my hairline but if I stick to deca and low test I figure I should be able to achieve goals without skin problems and minimize hair problems. Besides I think I want to be 215 220 max now instead of like 230
If you're prone to MPB, you'll lose hair regardless.

Whatever you feel best on, do that and actually enjoy the cycle
 
Great mass gainer above 600mg! Even using TRT and 400mg will put on mass. In the 70’s it was the go to mass builder: Deca and Ciba 5mg Dbol (small handful w breakfast!!lol).

Max
That WAS the breakfast of champions!! Especially pre-1990
 
Thanks everyone for replies I can run test low and deca high and be free of sexual sides


i want test low because I am SICK of acne and oily skin. I mean I go to work in a normal climate and come home lathered one body oil.

also I want to avoid hair loss sides I saw a video on old school cycles like dbol primo deca and dbol will screw up my hairline but if I stick to deca and low test I figure I should be able to achieve goals without skin problems and minimize hair problems. Besides I think I want to be 215 220 max now instead of like 230

You’ll be grateful for oily skin as you age. I am late 40’s and have less wrinkles than some guys do 10-15 years younger. About the hair - you’re either gonna lose it or not. Don’t fight it - shave that shit and you’d be surprised how great it is.
 
From what I've read lately...............4796.trying to find a replacement for Test due to oily skin.............That would be more difficult than finding a better way of dealing with the oily issue...Test should be the Base.........I've done a few cycles that Test wasn't included,however.......being older now I would not repeat that..........At a gr of Test ,I had oily skin ,,,but found good methods to deal with it......and that was a nice cycle.......I'm concidering another high Test cycle w/ Proviron.......soon
 
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