This is nonsense. The fact that rich people sometimes put fences around their private property has nothing to do with immigration, and I’m surprised you guys are willing to get behind this.
Your position is only as strong as the weakest link in your argument. It seems like you would want to avoid extremists and nut jobs. Well, the ones that aren’t currently POTUS at least.
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I suppose when a libertard doesn't believe in a wall at our southern border to keep out ILLEGAL ppl but wants a wall around their home to keep out trespassers who would being doing that ILLEGALLY.
Kinda a double standard.
Just because there is a need for some fences sometimes doesn’t mean that there is a need for all fences all the time. Some fences make sense, like the ones around prisons.
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Honestly if you can’t figure out how the two are completely unrelated and not at all a double standard I can’t think how to explain it to you. But I will try.
Just because there is a need for some fences sometimes doesn’t mean that there is a need for all fences all the time. Some fences make sense, like the ones around prisons.
If I put up a fence around my property to deter the local meth addicts from stealing my TVs what the hell does that have to do with immigration? Nothing whatsoever.
Just angry Republicans grasping at straws.
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Honestly if you can’t figure out how the two are completely unrelated and not at all a double standard I can’t think how to explain it to you. But I will try.
Just because there is a need for some fences sometimes doesn’t mean that there is a need for all fences all the time. Some fences make sense, like the ones around prisons.
If I put up a fence around my property to deter the local meth addicts from stealing my TVs what the hell does that have to do with immigration? Nothing whatsoever.
Just angry Republicans grasping at straws.
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And to your point, if a fence or wall is needed at the southern border bc the ppl on the other side of it aren't obeying our laws, is it not necessary?
You guys always confuse immigration, with illegal immigration which is why this doesn't make sense to you. Most people right and left are for immigration, most people on the right are against illegal immigration which is what is happening now on the southern border. Putting up a barrier to help process legal immigrants while stopping the flow of illegal immigration and smuggling is the same as putting up a fence to stop illegal trespassing and crime, while opening the gate to those you welcome. I don't see how this isn't straight forward.
This country is my country, my property. I dont want the southern meth addicts, rapists, child traffickers, drug dealers stealing anything, killing or raping other americans. For one, it steals help needed from americans, particularly our veterans that fought for this country. Secondly, it drives up the cost of living expenses while lowering wages. 10 years ago, what I make now could have been enough for the wife to stay home with the kids. Not today, we both have to work. That steals time from our family. Steals wages from unemployed americans, steals lower cost living arrangements from needy Americans. Im all for helping people, but there is a process. A legal one. And in order to enforce it, we need a fence around our country. Need one up north too to help with them damn snow mexicans (canadians) Lmao. Getting tired of Jim carrey and his cuckery, like he didnt drive his woman to kill herself and now playing the enlightened card. fuck off Jim. Go back to being funny.
Just so you know, theres what they call "rape trees" on the southern border. Can you guess what the fuck they are used for? Its there for the coyotes and smugglers to rape any and all women. They dont care about age. Then they throw the bloody panties or undergarments up in the tree as a trophy and as a warning. Theres land owners that are scared to do anything because they can just walk across the border and then attack them or their family.
Anyone foolish enough to think we dont need border security, for more than just keeping out the brown people, are just angry liberals that are uninformed.
The only reason for someone to trespass on private property is to commit a crime. Therefore a person’s fence around their home is to keep out people who have self-selected as criminals.
Because our immigration laws prevent the vast majority of people who want to come here legally from being able to do so, there is a massive demand for access to this country by people who just want to improve their lives and their families’ lives. Not just criminals.
And yes, I know you’re all dying to say that coming here illegally makes them criminals. But surely even Republicans can tell the difference between murderers, thieves and rapists and people that just want to work in stable environment where they can provide a decent life and opportunities for their kids.
If the immigration laws dealt with immigration intelligently we wouldn’t have an “illegal” immigration problem. And I’m talking about laws, not The Cheeto’s Wall. The wall is useless regardless.
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This country is not your property. You barely own the land you live on, if that. Stop paying property taxes and see for yourself.
And did you know we had a guy in America a while back who killed gay dudes, ate them and put their heads in his freezer?
There are bad people everywhere. Find em. Kill em. Has nothing to do with immigration.
I don’t know how you think illegal immigration drives up living expenses. Try buying fruit that was picked by Americans.
Yes, having a pool of workers available that will work for low wages does affect wages, but primarily in jobs that Americans already don’t want.
And I’d be happy if illegal immigration started driving down wages for rich cunts like doctors and bankers and lawyers and CEOs. Those cunts make too much money anyway lol.
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Ahhhh, yes, Economics. It is a tricky subject for most liberals and more importantly, socialists. See there is Supply vs Demand. When the demand outweighs the supply, prices go up. Housing is a prime example of this. California in particular. Now you have all these homeless people living and shitting in the streets, but California has decided to become a sanctuary state and give ILLEGAL immagrants free healthcare and Im sure housing is gonna be on the agenda too. Cant send their food stamp card and medicaid cards to a bus stop or under the overpass.
My wife is a mexican immigrant. So dont think that I dont understand the issues. She came here legally though, met an awesome man, dumped him and got with me. Lmao. My best friends ex wife came illegally, her story is troublsome because she was repeatedly raped on her journey.
Dont compare Dahmer to the cartels, different beasts. I dont know the full story on Dahmer. I do know a guy that grew up a mile from his house. Said he was a nice guy and had the best bbq's. Lmao, Kidding for those that didnt catch it.
Alrighty, Seems you have head firmly placed in a dark stinky place. I shall leave you there.
I am not going to argue the depths of what or is illegal. And what is illegal that is bad or really bad (murder, theft, rape).
But coming here illegally is ILLEGAL!!! It's breaking our laws and currently thanks to libertard thinking like yours...getting away with it.
And if we dealt with this the way the laws are written, they should be deported, not given a place to stay, rights to vote, and free medical in a sanctuary city. That citizens pay for via taxes.
People like you need to be murdered in your sleep. Taken away in the middle of the night. Bc there is no getting thru to and your small brain. Seriously.
So it’s an issue of semantics then? If we changed the laws so that there were no more illegal immigrants you would be happy? You stupid fuck.
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YESSS!!!!!!
And the rest is just your opinion.
Besides, if the laws don't work, it's because the wet backs aren't obeying them. Period.
You are a fucking mental midget trying to justify why it's okay to break these laws. Period.
You ignorant child. You don’t even understand what I wrote. I said if we changed the laws so there were no more illegal immigrants. That’s just words. Not actions. Changing the label, not the people or the number of people here.
You still on board?
No one obeys laws that don’t make sense and can’t be enforced, Mr. Illegal Drug User.
Everything is everyone’s opinion. The silly part is you know nothing about me other than I don’t like the way immigration is handled. I’m not a socialist or even a liberal by most standards. We probably agree on more things than we disagree on.
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Yes, I am still on board. You know why?
Bc I am not some old guy racist who doesn't want to see brown skin.
I want ppl to obey the laws. Same as I do. Only they aren't doing that.
I know ppl from overseas who waited 17 years to come here. Why the fuck should they circumvent the laws and come here before them?? Tell me???
Fucktard #1 checking in. This is literally the typical go to response from most leftist liberals. When confronted with facts backed by facts, just resort to namecalling and insults. Im neither wealthy, nor is my current boss. He invites me over to work on his house, not ride jet skis. I live more like a mexican, since my wife is mexican, than most of these 10 to a house mexicans as you put it. And that is a racist ass comment if I ever seen one. No, not all illegal immigrants are living 10 to a house. I know several, since Im married to a mexican woman and interact with these immigrants, that each kid has their own room, own cars. You have facts all twisted and contorted to frame up your narrative of illegal immigrants. Dont be so naive. And yes, this is my country. I will defend it with my life. Typical fucking libtard. See, now you have me calling names. Im done with your racist narrative of the border situation.Fucktard #1: illegal immigrants are living ten to a trailer. Not one family to a 6000 square foot upper middle class home whet each child has their own en suite bathroom and home theater and private gym with adjoining sauna. If you think illegal immigrants are the ones driving real estate prices you are beyond redemption.
Go ride jet skis with your boss at his lake house this weekend.
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I don’t think your friends should’ve had to wait 17 years. Not the other way around.
I had a friend from Canada with permission to live and work in the States that fell in love and was about to marry a Mexican girl. Once married, they were both cleared to live and work here. They flew home to meet her parents. On the way back into the country, they checked her driver’s license and it was expired. It was expired because her visa had also recently run out.
Because of this, she was not allowed back into the country for five years and the both had to move to Canada to stay together.
Laws are laws. But as we both know and attest to by our own choices, some laws don’t make sense.
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I would totally go jet skiing with you and your boss sometime... your wife have any hot sisters? I miss my Mexican mommacita! LolFucktard #1 checking in. This is literally the typical go to response from most leftist liberals. When confronted with facts backed by facts, just resort to namecalling and insults. Im neither wealthy, nor is my current boss. He invites me over to work on his house, not ride jet skis. I live more like a mexican, since my wife is mexican, than most of these 10 to a house mexicans as you put it. And that is a racist ass comment if I ever seen one. No, not all illegal immigrants are living 10 to a house. I know several, since Im married to a mexican woman and interact with these immigrants, that each kid has their own room, own cars. You have facts all twisted and contorted to frame up your narrative of illegal immigrants. Dont be so naive. And yes, this is my country. I will defend it with my life. Typical fucking libtard. See, now you have me calling names. Im done with your racist narrative of the border situation.
Fucktard #1 checking in. This is literally the typical go to response from most leftist liberals. When confronted with facts backed by facts, just resort to namecalling and insults. Im neither wealthy, nor is my current boss. He invites me over to work on his house, not ride jet skis. I live more like a mexican, since my wife is mexican, than most of these 10 to a house mexicans as you put it. And that is a racist ass comment if I ever seen one. No, not all illegal immigrants are living 10 to a house. I know several, since Im married to a mexican woman and interact with these immigrants, that each kid has their own room, own cars. You have facts all twisted and contorted to frame up your narrative of illegal immigrants. Dont be so naive. And yes, this is my country. I will defend it with my life. Typical fucking libtard. See, now you have me calling names. Im done with your racist narrative of the border situation.
I know plenty of Mexican families that are here as a whole, and I know plenty more Mexican dudes who are living ten to a trailer so they can send money home. Not racist just my observations.
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Yeah, send money HOME. See that... they don't consider this home. They don't want this to be home.
Not pay taxes. Just make money for home. Yep.
Then go the fuck HOME I say.
Got me there. I guess I should have said send money to their wives and kids who still live in poverty because there is no safe legal way to get to America, The Land of Opportunity.
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Wait, I thought we were separating all the wives and children and placing them in pig pens?? Or are they back HOME.
So confusing.