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Mighty-Mouse

Mighty-Mouse

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So need some opinions
I pulled blood work for igf baseline and found out it’s elevated

I have been off growth for around 4 months or so last I was running iron lion at 4iu a day

Test is at 275-300mg a week
Provi at 25mg a day
Asin at 12.5 once a week

Night before test I had 2 mixed drinks (5 shots vodka total)
2 shots tequila

Fasted from 9 to blood pull

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Mighty-Mouse said:
So need some opinions
I pulled blood work for igf baseline and found out it’s elevated

I have been off growth for around 4 months or so last I was running iron lion at 4iu a day

Test is at 275-300mg a week
Provi at 25mg a day
Asin at 12.5 once a week

Night before test I had 2 mixed drinks (5 shots vodka total)
2 shots tequila

Fasted from 9 to blood pull

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That's crazy...... Must be getting over the midget half of your life and growing into a real man.
 
Montego1 said:
That's crazy...... Must be getting over the midget half of your life and growing into a real man.
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Lol I was going to say something about me being short and hitting a growth spurt buttrtttttt.... I’m still 5’4”

Have u seen high igf baselines like this before?


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it's the Hematocrit that can fuck you up.. your blood is too thick, maybe give blood 2 or 3 times... I think that Kimbo Slice had his heart atack from high viscosity blood levels... your numbers are borderline, but high..
 
charley said:
it's the Hematocrit that can fuck you up.. your blood is too thick, maybe give blood 2 or 3 times... I think that Kimbo Slice had his heart atack from high viscosity blood levels... your numbers are borderline, but high..
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Yes sir I seen that and next day off giving that ol 500ml of O-


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charley said:
it's the Hematocrit that can fuck you up.. your blood is too thick, maybe give blood 2 or 3 times... I think that Kimbo Slice had his heart atack from high viscosity blood levels... your numbers are borderline, but high..
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So I am a fucking pussy when it comes to intravenous needles and hate giving blood. They have to put a towel over the shit while I’m donating. But I got a side plan. My buddies wife is in nursing school and volunteered to pull my blood Incase they won’t because it’s too thick. So regardless it’s getting pulled next day off


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Mighty-Mouse said:
So I am a fucking pussy when it comes to intravenous needles and hate giving blood. They have to put a towel over the shit while I’m donating. But I got a side plan. My buddies wife is in nursing school and volunteered to pull my blood Incase they won’t because it’s too thick. So regardless it’s getting pulled next day off


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it's a combination of high hematocrit and elevated BP that can get scary... drink as much water as you can tolerate. If you go to a clinic, they'll use a 12 to 19 gauge spike on you... drink some water before you go and you'll be ok... :winkfinger:
 
charley said:
it's a combination of high hematocrit and elevated BP that can get scary... drink as much water as you can tolerate. If you go to a clinic, they'll use a 12 to 19 gauge spike on you... drink some water before you go and you'll be ok... :winkfinger:
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O yeah thanks for the advice I will do this before going


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Testosterone raises IGF
 
Mighty-Mouse said:
The only thing I didn’t research is that. Can you elaborate. Or would should I google


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600mg of Testosterone a week for 20 weeks resulted in the following benefits. Increased fat free mass, muscle strength, muscle power, muscle volume, hemoglobin and IGF-1.

The same 600 mg administration resulted in 2 side effects. HDL cholesterol was negatively correlated and 2 men developed acne.

The normal range for total T in men is 241-827 ng/dl according to Labcorp and 260-1000 ng/dl according to Quest Laboratories. The normal range for IGF-1 is 81-225 according to Labcorp. Total T and IGF-1 levels were taken after 16 weeks and resulted in the following;

Total Testosterone
300 mg group-1,345 ng/dl a 691 ng increase from baseline
600 mg group-2,370 ng/dl a 1,737 ng increase from baseline

IGF-1
300 mg group-388 ng/dl a 74 ng increase from baseline
600 mg group-304 ng/dl a 77 ng increase from baseline
 
heavyiron said:
600mg of Testosterone a week for 20 weeks resulted in the following benefits. Increased fat free mass, muscle strength, muscle power, muscle volume, hemoglobin and IGF-1.

The same 600 mg administration resulted in 2 side effects. HDL cholesterol was negatively correlated and 2 men developed acne.

The normal range for total T in men is 241-827 ng/dl according to Labcorp and 260-1000 ng/dl according to Quest Laboratories. The normal range for IGF-1 is 81-225 according to Labcorp. Total T and IGF-1 levels were taken after 16 weeks and resulted in the following;

Total Testosterone
300 mg group-1,345 ng/dl a 691 ng increase from baseline
600 mg group-2,370 ng/dl a 1,737 ng increase from baseline

IGF-1
300 mg group-388 ng/dl a 74 ng increase from baseline
600 mg group-304 ng/dl a 77 ng increase from baseline
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Well that will explain my elevated baseline


See I knew you would give me some good advice

Just took your ass a few years!!!!

Thanks!

Now how the fuck is my liver so fucking good? That is the mind boggling question. Liv52 maybe I take those


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you still making Sheppard pie protein shakes? that will raise hemocrit, just saying
 
Mighty Mouse, in the study, note that this relatively young group of men had high baseline numbers at the beginning. For example, the 300mg of testosterone group, which had 388 IGF-1 average after 16 weeks, started out, at baseline, with an IGF-1 number of 314.

We are talking about a young group of men with high baseline IGF-1. So, yes, testosterone (and other steroids) raise IGF-1, but not so dramatically as one might imagine. The example I gave above, they did not start low. They started out high, and went a little higher.

That's why I asked how old you are.
 
Mighty-Mouse said:
Lol I was going to say something about me being short and hitting a growth spurt buttrtttttt.... I’m still 5’4”

Have u seen high igf baselines like this before?


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Never. That's the highest natural level I've ever seen even with test in the mix. It explains a lot MM.
 
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malfeasance said:
Mighty Mouse, in the study, note that this relatively young group of men had high baseline numbers at the beginning. For example, the 300mg of testosterone group, which had 388 IGF-1 average after 16 weeks, started out, at baseline, with an IGF-1 number of 314.

We are talking about a young group of men with high baseline IGF-1. So, yes, testosterone (and other steroids) raise IGF-1, but not so dramatically as one might imagine. The example I gave above, they did not start low. They started out high, and went a little higher.

That's why I asked how old you are.
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I’m 34. And yes that was a good article I def bookmarked it


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Mighty-Mouse said:
I’m 34. And yes that was a good article I def bookmarked it
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LOL! Oh, talk to me in 17 or 18 years about that IGF-1 level . . . enjoy it while it lasts. That is a good number for a 34 year old.

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Montego1 said:
It explains a lot MM.
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It's one of the things that makes me wish I had tried AAS before my 40s . . .
 
malfeasance said:
LOL! Oh, talk to me in 17 or 18 years about that IGF-1 level . . . enjoy it while it lasts. That is a good number for a 34 year old.

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It's one of the things that makes me wish I had tried AAS before my 40s . . .
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When I worked with mm he made the most drastic changes I've seen on trt doses ever. The igf makes sense now
 
Cool. :winkfinger: I did not know the back story.

You can see my log on here - using hgh (did not test IGF-1) added twenty pounds and leaner at the same time. IGF-1 is magic. It does not take much to really change the formula for us older guys. Working out without hgh sucks, especially when cutting.

I am jealous of those with naturally high IGF-1 numbers, but I am sure all of us can remember being 17-18 and eating whatever we want? Natty with a piss poor diet, no cardio, and hit the gym hard for a few weeks lifting and those abs show!
 
Montego1 said:
When I worked with mm he made the most drastic changes I've seen on trt doses ever. The igf makes sense now
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This is true! You def know your shit. All shit talking we did aside, Man U helped me out a lot.

Now I’m bout to kick it back into gear now that life is slowing down and work is getting better


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Hey mouse quick question. When you donate blood is there certain things you tell them and things you don’t? I need to lower hemo as well and this will be my first time donating.
 
M760 said:
Hey mouse quick question. When you donate blood is there certain things you tell them and things you don’t? I need to lower hemo as well and this will be my first time donating.
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you don't need to say anything, they won't ask...
 
M760 said:
Hey mouse quick question. When you donate blood is there certain things you tell them and things you don’t? I need to lower hemo as well and this will be my first time donating.
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If it’s your first time some places have you fill out a questionnaire. Just remember you are donating just because you want to donate that is it. But they usually don’t ask you anything


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