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2nd Cycle

Get Shredded!
socalmk6gti said:
Yeah, increase dose of shitty test and use it up? Or use it until new touchdown and toss it? I still have 10ml of stealth that I can use as well. I mean, at least it's elevated my test, natural levels are high 200, low 300s so this is still 5x's my Natty levels but damn.

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I'd order more and ramp up what you're on for now. Are you coming off? If it were me... I'd just extend the blast out longer since you're bloods look really good other than crap test. But I don't come off
 
I'm currently researching self administered TRT since my blood work keeps coming back in the 200-300 range. Wife is competing next October so baby making is on hold for now, figured I'd take advantage of some AAS over the next year.

Any advice is welcomed on that topic since you don't come off.
GarlicChicken said:
I'd order more and ramp up what you're on for now. Are you coming off? If it were me... I'd just extend the blast out longer since you're bloods look really good other than crap test. But I don't come off
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Progress has been decent but now I don't know what I would be capable of on some quality gear this round haha.
Montego1 said:
Double up the current dose and finish it off unless, you're making good progress then just ride it out.
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socalmk6gti said:
Progress has been decent but now I don't know what I would be capable of on some quality gear this round haha.

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Bump it up then.

Order some quality stuff for next round.

Stay away from shit hole labs with prices that are too good to be true.

Z
PSL
Monster
Gorilla
Domestic Supply
Drugs Gear
Pharmacom

Have used all of those with very good results and never an issue.

Gear church seems solid as well.
 
Went with GC actually
Montego1 said:
Bump it up then.

Order some quality stuff for next round.

Stay away from shit hole labs with prices that are too good to be true.

Z
PSL
Monster
Gorilla
Domestic Supply
Drugs Gear
Pharmacom

Have used all of those with very good results and never an issue.

Gear church seems solid as well.
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socalmk6gti said:
Went with GC actually


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I think they're a good choice.
Montego1 said:
Bump it up then.

Order some quality stuff for next round.

Stay away from shit hole labs with prices that are too good to be true.

Z
PSL
Monster
Gorilla
Domestic Supply
Drugs Gear
Pharmacom

Have used all of those with very good results and never an issue.

Gear church seems solid as well.
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I second all this
 
Ordered from GC

2- Test E
2 - Test Cyp
1 - Mast E
Cialis
Arimidex

Let's do this!

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socalmk6gti said:
300mg/ml pinned twice a week. Monday and Thursday

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Super low for 600mg a week. I hope its not the same lab i grabbed my cruise test from. I watched g.c. for like the last 5 months then randomly pulled the trigger on A different lab, i have idea why i do shit like that. I end up with vials of leftover gear that i dont even wanna pin cuz im playing guess work to get my levels right.

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IML Gear Cream!
So this is a prime example of why doing bloods should be on everyone's to do list..even tho OP felt "good" during cycle, he was actually cutting himself short with his underdosed test.. he was triple his normal range so obviously he felt better..of course he felt better, his test was at 300 which he provided bloods to show.. and now it's at 1700... problem is, it was on 600/mg wk of test..which if dosed correctly would be 3k+.. my point is..doing bloods not only gives you your health markers which are extremely important, but it also gives you info on your gear your running..everyone always says "well I feel it, or I'm on" but without testing it your selling yourself short IMO... Thnx bro for doing and sharing your bloods..your gains will only get better on quality dosed gear.

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303055622lr said:
Super low for 600mg a week. I hope its not the same lab i grabbed my cruise test from. I watched g.c. for like the last 5 months then randomly pulled the trigger on A different lab, i have idea why i do shit like that. I end up with vials of leftover gear that i dont even wanna pin cuz im playing guess work to get my levels right.

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I've done the same bro...thank God test is cheap tho ...if we're dealing with bunk primo, that's another story...

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Am I allowed to name drop labs that aren't from this forum? This was a lab from Reddit before they banned steroid talk and moved over to SST forums.

303055622lr said:
Super low for 600mg a week. I hope its not the same lab i grabbed my cruise test from. I watched g.c. for like the last 5 months then randomly pulled the trigger on A different lab, i have idea why i do shit like that. I end up with vials of leftover gear that i dont even wanna pin cuz im playing guess work to get my levels right.

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I couldn't have said this better myself.
lifter916 said:
So this is a prime example of why doing bloods should be on everyone's to do list..even tho OP felt "good" during cycle, he was actually cutting himself short with his underdosed test.. he was triple his normal range so obviously he felt better..of course he felt better, his test was at 300 which he provided bloods to show.. and now it's at 1700... problem is, it was on 600/mg wk of test..which if dosed correctly would be 3k+.. my point is..doing bloods not only gives you your health markers which are extremely important, but it also gives you info on your gear your running..everyone always says "well I feel it, or I'm on" but without testing it your selling yourself short IMO... Thnx bro for doing and sharing your bloods..your gains will only get better on quality dosed gear.

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socalmk6gti said:
Am I allowed to name drop labs that aren't from this forum? This was a lab from Reddit before they banned steroid talk and moved over to SST forums.



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I'm not sure about a.s.f. rules regarding that.

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socalmk6gti said:
Am I allowed to name drop labs that aren't from this forum? This was a lab from Reddit before they banned steroid talk and moved over to SST forums.



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I don't think that's approved in the rules on ASF...I'd keep it in PMs if anything

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socalmk6gti said:
Am I allowed to name drop labs that aren't from this forum? This was a lab from Reddit before they banned steroid talk and moved over to SST forums.



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I think it's fine, especially pointing out bad bloodwork. Not like you're sending them any business lol. I haven't seen anything in the rules that state anything like that
 
My man GC knows the rules more than me, so I'll take his word for it..post up the lab if you want..I think it's fine being they are not a current sponsor on this board..I'm curious as well

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Their name was Catalyst Labs ran by two guys, one named Myles. Supposedly the other guy made the product and Myles sold it. That guy now runs BioMass Labs and told me all of this.

You can see them on SST now that Reddit eliminated that forum

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socalmk6gti said:
Their name was Catalyst Labs ran by two guys, one named Myles. Supposedly the other guy made the product and Myles sold it. That guy now runs BioMass Labs and told me all of this.

You can see them on SST now that Reddit eliminated that forum

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Well brother, chalk it up as a lesson learned ... At least u got "some testosterone" out of it..my very first order happened to be when American Testosterone threw their exit scam...lost $350 that day.. received nothing, not even any underdosed gear...nowadays gotta do alot of research and listen to the vets of the board before making decisions...GC should take care of you this time..whats your cycle going to look like with the new gear?

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Get Shredded!
I hadn't planned on changing anything, just extending the cycle at this point and then going to try cruising for the first time.
lifter916 said:
Well brother, chalk it up as a lesson learned ... At least u got "some testosterone" out of it..my very first order happened to be when American Testosterone threw their exit scam...lost $350 that day.. received nothing, not even any underdosed gear...nowadays gotta do alot of research and listen to the vets of the board before making decisions...GC should take care of you this time..whats your cycle going to look like with the new gear?

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Ya bro, I scored a whopping 290 and 6months later a 311 before deciding to cruise..I felt like shit, always tired..getting fatter and fatter, low libido...I'm not in the position to tell u it's right or wrong..just what it has done for me...way more energy, loss of fat,strength is way up..and libido is A+...

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Any noticeable downsides for you so far?
lifter916 said:
Ya bro, I scored a whopping 290 and 6months later a 311 before deciding to cruise..I felt like shit, always tired..getting fatter and fatter, low libido...I'm not in the position to tell u it's right or wrong..just what it has done for me...way more energy, loss of fat,strength is way up..and libido is A+...

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Yeah once you start dipping down into the low 300's it sucks. Anything below 300 is really bad imo. Just know that you're in a position where you'll likely never be able to recover natural levels again...given the situation that's probably not something that's gonna happen anyways. Is a pain in the ass at times, but I feel much better staying at a high normal range than very low. I'm almost a different person
 
socalmk6gti said:
Any noticeable downsides for you so far?

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Some acne flare ups from time to time ..other than that..I feel great..10x better than when I was in low 300's that is a fact...like GC said tho..you need to be ready to do it for the long haul..it's a commitment...

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What about having kids? That's honestly my biggest concern as I'm 38, wife is 37 and we don't have kids yet.
GarlicChicken said:
Yeah once you start dipping down into the low 300's it sucks. Anything below 300 is really bad imo. Just know that you're in a position where you'll likely never be able to recover natural levels again...given the situation that's probably not something that's gonna happen anyways. Is a pain in the ass at times, but I feel much better staying at a high normal range than very low. I'm almost a different person
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I started trt too once I discovered my low test. symptoms no libido depressed flabby miserable asshole. I didn't know til I met some body builders at work that were like bro u should get tested your test levels are probably tanked. They were right. Honestly this past year since I started its like a switch was flipped and i feel alive again. As far as having kids it does cross my mind that its probably going to make it hard to happen. I honestly don't see it happening with my girl of 10 yesrs. I have a 15 year old daughter from when i was 16 years old so i guess i have already reproduced, plus paying child support since before i graduated high school im probably ok with being done with kids. I do have those random thoughts of like oh man what if me and my girl split and i meet some fine dime and fall in love and regret not being able,to start a family. But then again id rather live my life alive lifting being happy and getting the most out of my time on this earth. Sorry for the run on sentences im writing this while I ride the stationary. Just my 2cents. I'm glad ive made this decision. I was in shape and strong into my esrly 20s got depressed abused the shit out of alcohol and I'm pretty sure it killed my test levels. 33 years old now and just figured out what it was last year.

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socalmk6gti said:
What about having kids? That's honestly my biggest concern as I'm 38, wife is 37 and we don't have kids yet.

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I can't comment on the kids issue as I don't know..I've seen threads about it from time to time..it might be a good idea to start another thread on that subject in particular and see what some folks say

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303055622lr said:
I started trt too once I discovered my low test. symptoms no libido depressed flabby miserable asshole. I didn't know til I met some body builders at work that were like bro u should get tested your test levels are probably tanked. They were right. Honestly this past year since I started its like a switch was flipped and i feel alive again. As far as having kids it does cross my mind that its probably going to make it hard to happen. I honestly don't see it happening with my girl of 10 yesrs. I have a 15 year old daughter from when i was 16 years old so i guess i have already reproduced, plus paying child support since before i graduated high school im probably ok with being done with kids. I do have those random thoughts of like oh man what if me and my girl split and i meet some fine dime and fall in love and regret not being able,to start a family. But then again id rather live my life alive lifting being happy and getting the most out of my time on this earth. Sorry for the run on sentences im writing this while I ride the stationary. Just my 2cents. I'm glad ive made this decision. I was in shape and strong into my esrly 20s got depressed abused the shit out of alcohol and I'm pretty sure it killed my test levels. 33 years old now and just figured out what it was last year.

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We definitely have that in common brother..I drank myself too near death many times for almost 10yrs..then there was also blow involved, and well those times weren't a great period in my life..I'm almost positive that my lifestyle and abuse of drugs and alcohol had a big effect on my low test levels...chose to self trt..and I feel like a new man ever since..and got sober!
BTW..sorry to hijack my boys log...then again I think a good log has other life shit happening, not just diet,drugs,training...it adds life experiences that other brothers can relate to and hopefully gain something to help them out in their own lives...now I'm rambling again, fuck... So Cal..good log, keep it up

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It's all good man. My log has been 90% talking to myself so far. It's nice to have company lol
lifter916 said:
We definitely have that in common brother..I drank myself too near death many times for almost 10yrs..then there was also blow involved, and well those times weren't a great period in my life..I'm almost positive that my lifestyle and abuse of drugs and alcohol had a big effect on my low test levels...chose to self trt..and I feel like a new man ever since..and got sober!
BTW..sorry to hijack my boys log...then again I think a good log has other life shit happening, not just diet,drugs,training...it adds life experiences that other brothers can relate to and hopefully gain something to help them out in their own lives...now I'm rambling again, fuck... So Cal..good log, keep it up

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