In recovery we call this opinion shopping. You keep asking new people until you hear what you wanna hearWhen you ask a question but don't get the answer you are looking for... you create a new thread to ask again but different?? lol just do what your going to do man, it's your liver.
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I don't think anyone is saying he needs it...we only need air, food, and water to survive but we take AAS for our own reasons... Many of us take organ support for the obvious reasons... why do you so adamantly oppose using it
Amazon prime>BCG for supps
I’m just going off the absolute bullshit that nyde usually posts.
Sure, I may be drunk, but that doesn’t make this statement untrue.
I tried using injectible gluta while I was using oral S-drol, and it did not prevent me from feeling like total crap just 11 days in, and by day #13 I had to come off the S-drol because of how badly I felt. I didn't get a blood test done since I was only 13 days into the cycle when I stopped the S-drol, but i could barely get out of bed. The one thing I learned is that I cannot use 30mg per day of S-drol regardless of what liver support I take with it, and the only way I would ever try S-drol again would be at half that dosageRegardless of what this idiot op posts, udca is second only to injectible glutathione.
I was a udca fan for a lot of years, still am I guess. However, injectible gluta appears to pass it up by only a single point or two (15 compared to 18 on ast). 5 beers a week, 50 dbol/ day.
But test and mast? Come on, you don’t need it!
I tried using injectible gluta while I was using oral S-drol, and it did not prevent me from feeling like total crap just 11 days in, and by day #13 I had to come off the S-drol because of how badly I felt. I didn't get a blood test done since I was only 13 days into the cycle when I stopped the S-drol, but i could barely get out of bed. The one thing I learned is that I cannot use 30mg per day of S-drol regardless of what liver support I take with it, and the only way I would ever try S-drol again would be at half that dosage
More like $0.96 per week running 1200mg daily when you order the NOW brand off Amazon...it has so many benefits, at a dollar a week why not?If you can afford masteron you can afford a gram or so of NAC a day at the very least. I run it every single cycle orals or not, what’s the harm in it? Losing 10 bucks a week?
I tried using injectible gluta while I was using oral S-drol, and it did not prevent me from feeling like total crap just 11 days in, and by day #13 I had to come off the S-drol because of how badly I felt. I didn't get a blood test done since I was only 13 days into the cycle when I stopped the S-drol, but i could barely get out of bed. The one thing I learned is that I cannot use 30mg per day of S-drol regardless of what liver support I take with it, and the only way I would ever try S-drol again would be at half that dosage
Nice find. ThanksMore like $0.96 per week running 1200mg daily when you order the NOW brand off Amazon...it has so many benefits, at a dollar a week why not?
Not sure "m droll" is but I didn't have bloods taken until a good month after I stopped the S-drol, (at which time the liver values weren't bad at all, but I also felt much better by then too). But to your main point, I always often wonder if liver issues or something else during S-drol cycles is the real cause of the crappy lethargic feeling you get. And like you said, 30mg is out. I haven't tried the injectible S-drol, but I plan to in the future. But even with that, I have no intention of going over 15 mg or maybe even 20mg daily.But did you see where your numbers were when you quit? For years I’ve said that the high liver numbers seen in sd are not an indicator of what causes the ailments.
My theory is that something else is the cause of sd lwthargry. I can’t run that shit at 30. 15 most days with 20 on legs or a lot of pullork. Keeps the cycle from whanyimg to put a man in the death house early. This winter I will employ cel t bol, maybe old school masstaba in a box.
Some times I run cel m drol and 10 most days. Up to 15 on heavy days.
You can make great gains with 10-15 my m droll.
I knew a guy that abused orals non stop for about 2 years straight, then started sticking and doing a lot of rec drugs on top of it. He ended up with permanent liver damage and is now stuck on some cocktail of pharmaceuticals just to stay alive kicking. He started having severe lethargy and offset it with stimulants, mostly cocaine. He used to look phenomenal and had great genetics, but now hes just surviving.I had a friend who abused, and I mean abused drol. 2-300 mg/day for 8 months, all washed down with a fifth of vodka each and every day. He “felt” fine. When he finally agreed to do a rehab stay the did a blood screen. His levels were absolutely scary.
That’s why I’m not sure if SD lethargy and largess truly come from high liver values or by some other means.
Its because we dont want to face the truth. Even if 1 person co signs some bs thinkn. Its a green light for usIn recovery we call this opinion shopping. You keep asking new people until you hear what you wanna hear
Regardless of what this idiot op posts, udca is second only to injectible glutathione.
I was a udca fan for a lot of years, still am I guess. However, injectible gluta appears to pass it up by only a single point or two (15 compared to 18 on ast). 5 beers a week, 50 dbol/ day.
But test and mast? Come on, you don’t need it!
this... udca is easy to come by as well as glutathione and they have actual research to back up their efficacy