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Darb

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Hello brothers, I just received my gear and I am getting started at it. I am new at this. I have an idea how to cycle but I was hoping to maybe get some professional advice first to be sure.

45 years old​
. I am wanting to cut some while still building muscle. My estrogen is normal high. I have been giving myself 200 mg every 2 weeks for a year due to low t. That was prescribed by my dr.

Now for what I ordered, T400 AND Deca injectable. Winstrol and Arimidex 15mg tabs.

I did go ahead and give myself 100mg each of the T400 and Deca at the same time today.

thanks in advance
 
Never used Deca, but from trusted sources I heard that you have to always pin a 100mg more of test compared to sum of androgens...
 
maddoger said:
Never used Deca, but from trusted sources I heard that you have to always pin a 100mg more of test compared to sum of androgens...
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Completely false and your trusted sources are speaking "bro science".

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suraonyx23 said:
Completely false and your trusted sources are speaking "bro science".

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Could be, this person has 30years experience of use of AAS. Good heath and shape. The main reason is to keep your dick work while you’re on Deca 😆
 
maddoger said:
Could be, this person has 30years experience of use of AAS. Good heath and shape. The main reason is to keep your dick work while you’re on Deca
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Yeah I understand the thinking behind it aka Deca dick. But still I'd listen to a dead guy before bro science lol. And yes if your penis doesn't work then you can some issues lol

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It depends on the individual.... I’ve ran deca@300mg Test @300mg and tren @200mg weekly. I’ve done this 3 or 4 cycles and never experienced estrogen related sides even when not using an A.I. I feel that I got lucky as I did so without proper educating myself. So, be prepared for the sides but you don’t necessarily have to assume it’s going to cause problems.
 
Thanks for the help. I guess the main info I am looking for is how much
Winstrol​
should I take. Does it matter if it is pre or post workout or should it be broken up in different times throughout the day?
 
Darb said:
Thanks for the help. I guess the main info I am looking for is how much
Winstrol​
should I take. Does it matter if it is pre or post workout or should it be broken up in different times throughout the day?
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Well if you're new to all this as you say then I don't think you necessarily need it now. What is your cycle experience?

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The only thing I have done is 200 mg of test c every two weeks due to low t. Prescribed by a dr
 
Darb said:
The only thing I have done is 200 mg of test c every two weeks due to low t. Prescribed by a dr
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Ok gotcha. Can you elaborate more on your height weight body fat % ? More info we have the better we are able to give you info. But I don’t necessarily think you need winny now.


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45 years old, 5'9", 260 lbs. , not sure what the percentage is but I am fairly solid. I have put on a gut
 
suraonyx23 said:
Yeah I understand the thinking behind it aka Deca dick. But still I'd listen to a dead guy before bro science lol. And yes if your penis doesn't work then you can some issues lol

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Still bro science.
I could run Deca 2x higher than test.
If I kept my estro in check, took Prami and maybe, but not necessarily, took Cialis, I could poke holes in walls and want to fuck everything with a pulse.

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I'd go test only.
500mgs per week (maybe 350-400) considering your trt)
Save the Deca and Winstrol for down the road.

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Thanks man, can I ask what is "trt" referring to in your last message? Also just for learning sake, why hold off on the deca and Winstrol?
 
Ok.
TRT is the Testosterone Replacement Treatment you're already on through your doc.
I'd hold off on them because
A. Usually everyone's recommendation for a first cycle is 500mgs test per week.
B. Deca is usually best for a second or third cycle, when stacking compounds becomes more necessary. Also, I recommend you do a lot of reading on 19-nors and their characteristics when using them. They're in their own ball field.
C. Winstrol you could possibly use
- If your diet is amazing
- you're on a cut, will be in a caloric deficit, and you're somewhere at or below 12 or so bf%.
- your training is very serious and you can really use the extra push strength wise from Winstrol.
I still, however, believe that at 500mgs per test only per week with proper diet and training, you can put on 15-30 pounds, depending on your frame.
Darb said:
Thanks man, can I ask what is "trt" referring to in your last message? Also just for learning sake, why hold off on the deca and Winstrol?
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CompoundLifts31 said:
Ok.
TRT is the Testosterone Replacement Treatment you're already on through your doc.
I'd hold off on them because
A. Usually everyone's recommendation for a first cycle is 500mgs test per week.
B. Deca is usually best for a second or third cycle, when stacking compounds becomes more necessary. Also, I recommend you do a lot of reading on 19-nors and their characteristics when using them. They're in their own ball field.
C. Winstrol you could possibly use
- If your diet is amazing
- you're on a cut, will be in a caloric deficit, and you're somewhere at or below 12 or so bf%.
- your training is very serious and you can really use the extra push strength wise from Winstrol.
I still, however, believe that at 500mgs per test only per week with proper diet and training, you can put on 15-30 pounds, depending on your frame.

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Pretty good advice right here. I would do as he has suggested. Hold off on the Winny and Deca for now. At 5'9" 260 your carrying some bf but you've already said you are. Get your diet in check and enjoy your first cycle.

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suraonyx23 said:
Pretty good advice right here. I would do as he has suggested. Hold off on the Winny and Deca for now. At 5'9" 260 your carrying some bf but you've already said you are. Get your diet in check and enjoy your first cycle.

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I don’t have a lot of experience, but why not to use synergy effect and do Test + Anavar/Winstrol/Tbol?
 
maddoger said:
I don’t have a lot of experience, but why not to use synergy effect and do Test + Anavar/Winstrol/Tbol?
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Because he hasn’t cycled before...only TRT. And nobody here knows what his health is like...liver, kidneys ,lipid profile , heart etc. If I was the OP I would gradually increase test and cardio. Then after a few test only blasts, considering adding other compounds. No need to rush things. I find that results from test only runs in the beginning are better anyway. Just my opinion.
 
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