What do you mean "long term"? Depending on how much you're taking of either HGH or a peptide.. Worst case scenario over a long duration it can detrimental to for the liver, kidneys, or even acute pancreatitis, and the "possibility" of developing insulin resistance can occur. , but this is more common for someone who doesn't have any sort of deficiency (although there's some reports citing these effects while under going therapeutic dosages/treatments).. This is why many users will cycle their HGH starting at 7 days a week for 4-5 weeks, and once IGF levels increase they can skip the weekends, and run this protocol for several months, and even at that after many many many months some individuals sometimes peal back and use HGH at 2-4ius EOD , or 3 x a week as maintenance, not only is this cost effective but it yields brakes and recovery..Now, when it comes for blasting again they repeat the steps mentioned above,.I know it's expected to have elevated IGF-1 on HGH, but what's are the consequences of it ? normal range is up to 220, blood work shown around 400. From 2UI of HGH 5 days a week and off on the weekend. Is it bad in a long term ? Thanks!
What do you mean "long term"? Depending on how much you're taking of either HGH or a peptide.. Worst case scenario over a long duration it can detrimental to for the liver, kidneys, or even acute pancreatitis, and the "possibility" of developing insulin resistance can occur. , but this is more common for someone who doesn't have any sort of deficiency (although there's some reports citing these effects while under going therapeutic dosages/treatments).. This is why many users will cycle their HGH starting at 7 days a week for 4-5 weeks, and once IGF levels increase they can skip the weekends, and run this protocol for several months, and even at that after many many many months some individuals sometimes peal back and use HGH at 2-4ius EOD , or 3 x a week as maintenance, not only is this cost effective but it yields brakes and recovery..Now, when it comes for blasting again they repeat the steps mentioned above,.
Below is a study however it mentions those with HGH deficiency, but the effects could very well still be similar whether you have a deficiency or NOT, having a deficiency doesn't mean "only these subjects" can have these adverse effects.. No single person is impervious to adverse effects of any side effects that may be attributed to treatments or self administrated dosages for self-enhancement purposes.
what brand and are you running ?
No, im not saying that, Im saying some guys I seen use that and it was effective.. Dont change up anything your Dr is suggesting.. 2ius is a good solid dose and very therapeutic for a ton of positive reasons..I'm doing some sort of HGH replacement therapy, low dosage and long term. So you're saying 2UI 3x a week as a maintenance is a right thing to do ? I was thinking 2UI 5 days a week is a maintenance mode
Original serostim. Want to try pharmacom ...
I thought 2UI is just an anti-aging dose without side-effectsit doesnt matter if your dose is only 2iu, having igf at 400 for extended time (4-6 mo +) will have long term consequences. Beyond facial bone structure, insluin resistance, possible thyroid deficiency, lots of things. Just like any drug, you never wanna be at super physiological levels for that long. Would anybody say its totally healthy to be on 1000mg of test and have a total test level of 4000 for "extended time"? Of course not, why would GH/IGF be any different?
The igf number determines those long term effects not how much gh you're using.I thought 2UI is just an anti-aging dose without side-effects
Makes sense. A quick question, how to do IGF-1 test correctly ? Let's assume you injected 2UI of HGH at 8am and did blood test at 10am. Obviously the numbers will be much lower if you'd skip that morning injection ? So what's the correct way ? how long after last injection you have to wait ? ThanksThe igf number determines those long term effects not how much gh you're using.
That number will depend on your baseline igf number and how accurately the gh is dosed at.
200-250 is a typical high end replacement dose igf score.
Makes sense. A quick question, how to do IGF-1 test correctly ? Let's assume you injected 2UI of HGH at 8am and did blood test at 10am. Obviously the numbers will be much lower if you'd skip that morning injection ? So what's the correct way ? how long after last injection you have to wait ? Thanks
Apparently I did exactly what you said. 2UI raised the baseline of 170 to 370I understand you were aiming this at Monte, but I figured I would chime in as well he would say the same thing but I'm about to tell you.. in order to get an accurate igf-1 serum level you would have to wait at least anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks after starting your protocol with HGH however you have to be consecutive and consistent every single day with your dosage.. Regardless of your dosage it is always best to get a baseline reading at your natural levels so therefore you can compare where you came from, where you're going, and where you're possibly heading.. depending if you dosages are on the low end that may be more therapeutic or even on the higher end I personally recommend that someone gets a baseline reading done at least once in their lifetime or at least every couple years because of bodies do change but at least you have a Baseline that you can use for comparable notes. It's a crude method but it does work and it's actually pretty accurate... Example would be let's just say your natural levels were about 150, now after five or six weeks of a lower dose HGH protocol they ended up being around the high 200 or low 300... Now I can't say this is factual and actual comparable numbers but that's an example and it shows you where you came from...
Well I rest my case and that's on point , sounds good to me!!!!Apparently I did exactly what you said. 2UI raised the baseline of 170 to 370
Is it because high IGF-1 will increase cell growth ?I've never taken hgh, but tested extremely high igf-1 on blood work. My doctor sent me for a scan of my pituitary glands to check for tumors based on the test results. He said such high numbers (sorry can't remember exact number) can increase your chances of getting cancer. Lucky it was negative for me. Google high igf-1 and cancer.
I've never taken hgh, but tested extremely high igf-1 on blood work. My doctor sent me for a scan of my pituitary glands to check for tumors based on the test results. He said such high numbers (sorry can't remember exact number) can increase your chances of getting cancer. Lucky it was negative for me. Google high igf-1 and cancer.
Yup. Leave it aloneHey Folks... sorry to hijack this thread but question is on topic.
Looking at some old lab work Oct. 2017 my igf-1 LC/MS score was 289ng/ml
I’m in my late 40s and was looking into running HGH for anti-aging/fat loss. I’ve never used it before just AAS. This result seems good ... should I leave it alone?
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