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Create a forum/sub forum exclusively for this great project. My $.02
Good idea.
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Create a forum/sub forum exclusively for this great project. My $.02
I would have a question to which I have always received uncertain answers, doubtful and restrictive.
the question is obviously addressed to a HUGE person.
The question is simple: kcal/day and steroids and dosages.
I am not huge and I am not genetically predisposed, but some people say they become so BIG with 500 mg of testosterone a week... he frankly stewed me.
I would like to hear real people for once that really speaks of actual dosages to grow and not just to give the kids the recommendation to start.
Let's see if this magic number of 500 still appears on this thread
I would have a question to which I have always received uncertain answers, doubtful and restrictive.
the question is obviously addressed to a HUGE person.
The question is simple: kcal/day and steroids and dosages.
I am not huge and I am not genetically predisposed, but some people say they become so BIG with 500 mg of testosterone a week... he frankly stewed me.
I would like to hear real people for once that really speaks of actual dosages to grow and not just to give the kids the recommendation to start.
Let's see if this magic number of 500 still appears on this thread
Genetics will skew the numbers big time. Some guys just have more AR's and less Myostatin so they will respond better to drugs. When a pro states he was on a gram a week the responses to him are often disbelief. Keep in mind a pro might be in the top 1% in the world as far as genetics. Lee Priest always talked about moderate dosages of AAS and low doses of rHGH. Then some know it all kid chimes in that he knows a friend of Lee and Lee is really on 10 grams a week. LOL.I would have a question to which I have always received uncertain answers, doubtful and restrictive.
the question is obviously addressed to a HUGE person.
The question is simple: kcal/day and steroids and dosages.
I am not huge and I am not genetically predisposed, but some people say they become so BIG with 500 mg of testosterone a week... he frankly stewed me.
I would like to hear real people for once that really speaks of actual dosages to grow and not just to give the kids the recommendation to start.
Let's see if this magic number of 500 still appears on this thread
Fucking love this thread.
Fucking love this thread.
Yeah this is fantastic. Asf needed something like this to get us back on track and thinking straight. Keep the train from jumping the tracks type scenario. I like where this is heading. I apprciate the knowledge and willingness from you guys to do this for us.Great idea bro...very well thought out. Oh how I wish I had these resources back in my 20's
Yeah this is fantastic. Asf needed something like this to get us back on track and thinking straight. Keep the train from jumping the tracks type scenario. I like where this is heading. I apprciate the knowledge and willingness from you guys to do this for us.
Great idea bro...very well thought out. Oh how I wish I had these resources back in my 20's
Great idea bro...very well thought out. Oh how I wish I had these resources back in my 20's
Info on AAS was hard to come by in the late 80s and early 90s when there was no internet. I was buying all the books and peridicals I could find.
Any u guys remember this.
My question. How many of the quad muscles can you pin? I know the main one(can't name it). Is there nerve issues in the other muscles in the quad, or are they okay to pin. Never really heard much about this.
Thanks...much appreciated!Ive pinned most all, the worst pin ive ever had in quads was from Vastus Medialius where I hit big nerve or tendon, this was back in early 90s and i was using 1-1.5 23g pins. Nowadays I stay in the upper half of quads and more towards the front with 5/8-1" 25g. I hit the small muscles way up top too, Sartorious and Tensor Fasciea and others.
Edit... looks like phone needs to be turned sideways to make pic face up.
I like this question but, need you to expand on what you wanna know......Here is a question....
WTF are macros. lol.
I mean, designing a diet around macros. I know a calorie isn't just a calorie and simply "dieting" won't get me where I want. I tried.
I am at 230 and probably 15% bf. At 5'11".
Never had abs and doubting it will ever happen for me. I know my diet isn't "spot on" so not going to bullshit.
Train 4 days a week. Usually jog 20 minutes for 2 miles after each. So doing some cardio.
For me? Getting down to 10% would be a success story.
@sherkQuestion: Sub q refers to subcutaneous layer between skin and muscle, right? What AAS can be injected, sub q, and still be effective? I know HGH isn’t considered an AAS. I definitely want to know more about HGH. Especially it’s effect on insulin, i used to be really interested but it seems to be much more involved and I’m definitely not ready for it, just curious about the sub q thing as I hear it a lot and thought AAS had to be injected intramuscular. Thanks
I'm not vetted in but I'm pretty sure that Emeric (former IFBB pro) has discussed this topic of subcutaneous injecting. I have been reading his thread for years at pro.@sherk
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Either of you guys wanna take a crack at this one?
Question: Sub q refers to subcutaneous layer between skin and muscle, right? What AAS can be injected, sub q, and still be effective? I know HGH isn’t considered an AAS. I definitely want to know more about HGH. Especially it’s effect on insulin, i used to be really interested but it seems to be much more involved and I’m definitely not ready for it, just curious about the sub q thing as I hear it a lot and thought AAS had to be injected intramuscular. Thanks
Pretty much any AAS can be injected subq as long as it flows through a smaller gauge needle, Quite a few years ago I started a log and experimented with Cyp, Prop, Tren Ace and other compounds injecting them subq. However I quickly found out that higher volumes of certain esters were painful the next day. I preferred subq injects of 1/2 ml or less otherwise it would feel like a bee sting the next day. Tren Ace was interesting because I never had Tren cough when injecting it subq. Around the time I was experimenting with injecting Cyp there were only 2 studies I knew of on the procedure. Since then we have solid evidence that subq injects work to raise blood androgen levels although onset of action may be delayed.Question: Sub q refers to subcutaneous layer between skin and muscle, right? What AAS can be injected, sub q, and still be effective? I know HGH isn’t considered an AAS. I definitely want to know more about HGH. Especially it’s effect on insulin, i used to be really interested but it seems to be much more involved and I’m definitely not ready for it, just curious about the sub q thing as I hear it a lot and thought AAS had to be injected intramuscular. Thanks
I'll add my two cents on subq. I've experimented with various compounds using this method. In my experience, it's only good for long ester products. Trust me...I tried Prop both in Test and Mast and it hurt really bad. The absorption rate is somewhat slower but it still works fine for someone on TRT. As for someone running a cycle, it probably isn't the best option although I would pin IM and subq at the same time and was very happy with the results. I've pinned abs subq, my small love handles and upper gluteus. You really just need to experiment and get bloodwork to determine your personal success rate. I will also add that subq injections can help mitigate the quick rise of E2 unlike IM injections. The most I pin subq in one location is 2ml. Currently, I'm running 600mg of Primo all subq.
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You pin 2ml sub-q at one time? What locations? So I can assume if I wanted to add some Tren ace on top of my Tren e without having to increase the volume going im..... I could just say.... pin 1/2ml in the ab maybe on workout days?
If I were looking for a preworkout bump of Tren it would be base not Ace. The half life’s are quite a bit different and Ace is too long of an ester to do what you described.
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