That's 100% fair, those guys shouldn't have came on here like that and you know what, once the mods on PM found out about it some of those guys were banned from PM for it. It made us all look bad and it made the testing look bad, they had good intentions I'm sure but you can't just go to a new place and start cussing everybody out because they are skeptical. Guys were frustrated, I'm not excusing them at all but I am trying to explain, please don't be turned off by the testing because of the actions of a couple pissed off guys. I can't argue with how you feel about it if the roles were reversed I'm sure over at PM we would have told you to fuck off as well and it would have made us even more skeptical Here is something I posted on the h-as thread at PM when someone respectfully questioned the testing:
"You’re actually entertaining the thought that myself, as a consumer, in concert with all the other consumers that sent in samples, yes they came from more than one member, acted on behalf of another specific vendor which would somehow funnel more business specifically to them? Even if we ignored the logistics don’t you think that’s a bit of a stretch on motive alone?
I sent that shit in wanting to know what I was using and I sure as shit found out, there is an umistakabke reason why it’s so cheap and we all found out. Again even if you want to ignore the multiple tests the sponsors laughable reaction and blatant ignoring of concerns by their customers is enough to tell them to kick a brick.....barefoot.
I’ll say it again I’m not some bs “vip” I’m a BULK order customer and I have not been addressed one single time, h-as does not give two shits. I was never rude about any of it until I realized nothing would ever come it. They have provided absolutely no avenue whatsoever to resolve the issue, their strategy is to simply put PM on the back burner for now and concentrate on all the other forums they’re on. If it spreads further I guarantee you they will shut down shop and just come back under a new name."
I'm not trying to persuade you one way or another it's always for you to decide what to put in your body but listen to us who are level headed please don't base your opinion on a bunch of guys who were just too pissed off to be cool about it. From h-as reactions to this whole ordeal for me personally I take from it that this wasn't a series of mistakes and they knew what they were doing. They didn't seem caught off guard at all by it, it's only now that they realize their sponsorship dollars aren't overriding it that they are surprised. They felt that because they were paying these forums to advertise that they would be protected and this would just be brushed under the rug, they would have slow sales over at PM but the mods would suppress it for them. Over here and at PM it's getting to the point where they are specifically asking for that, they don't even have any shame about it anymore. They didn't count on guys like Montego and Big A actually caring about their members and not just pandering to a sponsor for more cash, it was never a thought in their minds that these guys actually gave a shit about us and it wasn't just about the dollars. If they had thought that for one second then I guarantee you they would have reacted differently they would have bullshitted and played nice, you can see it on the thread at PM how it all unfolded. I'm sure eventually they will reverse on that because it blew up in their face but by then it will be too late and they'll cut bait and run soon enough.
I'll tell you this much, my upcoming summer cycle is going to be a double edged sword that's for sure, for once I'm actually going to be using the dosages and compounds I planned for but at the same time I really don't know what my tolerances are anymore. I'm actually very concerned about it, I thought I all my meticulously planning and logging the past few years had me at a place where I could well manage my usage and minimize any issues but it was all for nothing and I have to start from scratch. I'm gonna be a balding bloated fucked up water buffalo with a dead dick this summer, thanks h-as!!