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    No test cycles, experiences...

    I have never done them. Back when I used to blast it was always test as base, now I just do TRT plus some mild compound.

    Who's done cycles with no test? How did you like them?

    I've seen more people on deca only or deca/oral lately. Is this a new trend?

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    Lok did a DECA only cycle. Maybe he could chime in here on his experience with that! Iíve never run anything without Test so Iím not much help there! Iíll be following along to see. I know some guys have probably done some crazy cycles like that out there!


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    the only thing I took without test is TRESTOLONE (MENT).

    ..not bad, but with some TEST it's all a different life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill View Post
    the only thing I took without test is TRESTOLONE (MENT).

    ..not bad, but with some TEST it's all a different life!
    I believe trest was designed to replace test, wasn't it?

    How was your e2 using both? What kind of dosages are we talking about?

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    Yes trest was designed to replace test. Is for this reason that I tried.


    my E2 are always high (Unfortunately) even if I take a lot of AI. Plus with 19nordsteroids I suffer from high progesterone.


    Tren and trest only for a month-40 days and with nandrolone a couple of months. This is of course my personal experience on my body.


    When my nipples beg for mercy, I have to unplug these coupons.


    generally my dosages are:
    trest ace 50 mg/ed
    tren ace 75 to 100 mg/ed
    npp 100 to 125 mg/ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill View Post
    my E2 are always high (Unfortunately) even if I take a lot of AI. Plus with 19nordsteroids I suffer from high progesterone.
    What's your BF%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALLEX View Post
    What's your BF%?
    13/01/2018: 6,1 %

    I take measurements with this (if it may be of interest):

    www.tanita.com/en/mc-780/
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    Last edited by Phill; 02-08-2018 at 03:19 AM. Reason: add info

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill View Post
    13/01/2018: 6,1 %

    I take measurements with this (if it may be of interest):
    I usually don't trust these, but have no experience with this particular model.

    6% is very low. Most people don't convert this bad in such low BF%. But we're all unique, so...

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    I am more endurance, so I have used tbol and Anavar together. Anavar alone with Winstrol. Never had an issues, but I'm not the type where I want to be huge, I am lean and muscular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALLEX View Post
    I usually don't trust these, but have no experience with this particular model.

    6% is very low. Most people don't convert this bad in such low BF%. But we're all unique, so...

    What do you use to get body composition measurements?


    I know that these impedance scales are not so very exact, but this scale is what is in my gym (Retail Price: $8000)
    I don't spend money to make other measurements, at most I look me in the mirror :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill View Post
    What do you use to get body composition measurements?
    Mirror and caliper, but it's been a while.

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    I don't think I would do a cycle without test these days.

    BUT, if I were a young guy who was starting out, not knowing any better, I probably would have...

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