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Ive always liked the trans-dermal products that were out over the years (Primordial, etc).

For the Muscle Gelz line, is there one that sort of acts like a test boost/PCT (non supressive) boost libido post cycle (maybe estrogen block)?

Thanks for any help Wes or Mike A.. (Or anyone)...

~Dave
 
How good are the gels? Worth using as part of either a cycle or even PCT?
 
Found some formeron from black lion the other day, cracked it open and it was all dried up 😞 man I loved that shit
 
I just noticed that the AndroShred and ANdroHArd are both making my workouts better when using it on muscle groups I am working.
I now am not going to have a workout without them, at least upper body. 3 workouts in a row now and I felt much better. Like my body was
warmed up and less pain. blood flow better. S, I like my workouts using them for sure and need more time to see what results occur. Right now
liking how it feels on my body!! Will check back 2-3 weeks...I am doing Test Tren right now, but I have done many, so may be able to tell. BOdy
feels great that I know
 
Transdermal is only how the drug is "delivered." Taking exogenous testosterone will shut your own system down/suppress no matter how it is delivered (injection, oral, or thru the skin).

Problem with transdermal is percentage of absorption isn't high so you don't get much of the drug and so hard to raise levels to a super physiological dosage.

So for TRT it can be somewhat effective. But not going to achieve fantastic results. Maybe faster recovery (this would make for more effective workouts and help promote gains in the gym), and increase libido.

If your goal is for a TRT dosage then okay (just know that TRT dosage will shut you down same as super physiological dosages).
 
Found some formeron from black lion the other day, cracked it open and it was all dried up  man I loved that shit
Loved that stuff. Wish it was still around over anything else.
 
Ive always liked the trans-dermal products that were out over the years (Primordial, etc).

For the Muscle Gelz line, is there one that sort of acts like a test boost/PCT (non supressive) boost libido post cycle (maybe estrogen block)?

Thanks for any help Wes or Mike A.. (Or anyone)...

~Dave



Yes sir! Coming in 4-8 weeks.

Testrozone = Non suppressive booster
https://www.musclegelz.com/products/testrozone/

Ingredients:
[h=4]Laxogenin (5a-hydroxy-laxogenin)[/h] (30mg)
[h=4]Super 5 DHEA (3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17)[/h] Naturally occurring DHEA derivative
(50mg)
[h=4]Horny Goat Weed (epimedium grandiflorum)[/h] (40% icariin)(250mg)

[h=4]Vitamin D3[/h] (2,000iu)

[h=2]TESTROZONE™ TOPICAL DELIVERY SYSTEM[/h]
  1. Dimethyl Isosorbide (DMI) – is a high purity solvent and carrier which offers a safe, effective delivery enhancement mechanism for the active ingredients in TestroZone.
  2. Ethoxydiglycol – is a cosmetic grade solvent that conforms to the current USP/NF monographs. Ethoxydiglycol is particularly appropriate for skin care preparations where it acts as an excellent solvent and carrier.
  3. Propylene glycol – is an organic compound that is used 2 primary reasons. First, it has the traits of a humectant; it is able to absorb and help the skin retain moisture. Second, it helps active ingredients penetrate the skin.
  4. Glycerin – when used on skin works as humectant, which is why it attracts moisture onto your skin.
  5. Carbomer – helps to distribute and suspend the active ingredients in the TestroZone gel.
  6. Triethanolamine (TEA) – Helps the water-soluble and oil-soluble ingredients blend better. TEA neutralizes fatty acids and solubilizes oils and other ingredients that are not completely soluble in water.



Transdermal is only how the drug is "delivered." Taking exogenous testosterone will shut your own system down/suppress no matter how it is delivered (injection, oral, or thru the skin).

Problem with transdermal is percentage of absorption isn't high so you don't get much of the drug and so hard to raise levels to a super physiological dosage.

So for TRT it can be somewhat effective. But not going to achieve fantastic results. Maybe faster recovery (this would make for more effective workouts and help promote gains in the gym), and increase libido.

If your goal is for a TRT dosage then okay (just know that TRT dosage will shut you down same as super physiological dosages).


Actually transdermal absorption is far far higher then oral absorption.

Of course injectable is not a comparison, and none of these products are intended to be used as HRT/TRT...

AndroHARD is going to act like oral anavar would, but at high dosages (400-600mgs) it trumps say 50mgs of Var for instance.

The Testrozone is a test booster and libido enhancer. So you are going to see some improvements in Test levels, minus being suppressive. You are going to have the Epimedium acting like Cialis...It's a 5-PDE , so it is going to have erection improving qualities. But certainly this product is not going to produce testosterone increases of that of Transdermal testosterone nor injectable testosterone.

I think people really have to understand these are "supplements"..in addition to.

The gear is standalone and not suppressive and that is an excellent combo for a natural athlete.

MK677 is great for natty or enhanced

The androShred also is great for natty or enhanced and works safely in males and females.

Excellent options across the board for your desired goals imo :)
 
Actually transdermal absorption is far far higher then oral absorption.


Can you say what the absorption percentage is??

Started out using Test gel years ago, but the percentage of absorption was so small that it hardly seemed worth it. I don't remember off hand what it was...thx
 
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Can you say what the absorption percentage is??

Started out using Test gel years ago, but the percentage of absorption was so small that it hardly seemed worth it. I don't remember off hand what it was...thx


Generally speaking we see transdermals like these have 30%+ absorption rates. Then you have to take into account the delivery system.

Think grapefruit juice enzyme, etc...So you are getting even more then just that.

Normal oral absorption varies on each compound, but in some cases it is as low as 2-5%.



Transdermal Test, what Testim is usually in 50mg increments. So if you are getting 30% of that daily you are getting maybe 15mgs of test right? While this is def much much superior then nothing at all, or being deficient.. you can see why this does not compare with Injectable test mg per mL.
 
I am curious if anyone has ever mixed a steroid powder in with these test boosters. Years ago when finaplix cartridges were easily purchased online a buddy and I ordered a spray on transdermal test booster. We added the ground up fina to the bottles. I think one fina kit made two bottles worth. Then you just shake the bottles really good and then do like 15 or 20 pumps of the spray on both pecs or shoulders each day. Stuff worked great. Used that along with sustanon. Just wondering if anyone else did this. It really did work very well. Just like Wes was saying you will not get full absorption with this method but damn it was nice....no everyday or every other day pinning.
 
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