In the meantime, I ask a question:
If there is, when testosterone is too high?
I mean, there are a good value range (pg/ml) for those who take aas?
There is a value beyond which it would be better not to go?
Regarding estro, why should the reference values be the same as for normal people?
Having a lot of testosterone means having even more estrogen.
Is there an optimal range for estradiol or an optimal test/estro ratio?
now I know that we are all different, depending on how you feel, on all the other enzymatic values, etc.
But for normal people these ranges are liable. Is there something like this for bodybuilders?
I will tell pretty simple things, but here is my point. Bodybuilders as a rule overstep recommended physiological dosages (say recommended for TRT) by times. Actually, all dosages for bodybuilding purposes are too high. 500 mg/week is already a high dosage, however it is not considered high in bodybuilding community and even newbies start with higher doses, which is totally wrong.
The dosage depend on what you permit yourself depending on your goals, weight, etc. I would say for most of amateur athletes 300 mg/week of testosterone in stack with some other product (for synergy) is more than enough. There is no reason to take more if you do not compete. There is no need at all to build cycles consisting of 3-4-5 or even more compounds. More does not mean better. In fact, most of the beginners ruin the future growth potential when doing so.
For amateur bodybuilders It is reasonable not to exceed 500 mg/week max. I would say so. And yes, I know, some of you have 1000 mg or even 2000 mg or more... Its crazy. Just not necessarily for amateur levels. Its only my personal opinion.
Regarding estradiol references: they are the same for all men, incl. steroid users. The reason is pretty obvious. Yes, if you take more aromatizing products like testosterone or dbol, your estradiol values will be elevated depending on your aromatase activity. If you don`t keep it within recommended references you risk to get side effects typical for high estradiol levels (gynecomastia, bloating/water retention, high blood pressure, etc). For this reason you need to take AI inhibitors like anastrozol.
There are common things. Say, if you are on bulking cycle, its probably better to keep estradiol closer to the higher reference limit. It will promote water retention (especially if you consude much carbs). Water helps with bulking and strength, but don`t go too far with it. Possible side effects like high blood pressure bring only more risks.
If you are on cutting cycle, its probably better to keep your estradiol closer to the lower reference limit. But do not kill it completely (you can do it, if you take too much anastrozol or other AI without blood works. Letrozol is known as a very potent inhibitor, so don`t play with it if you for sure don`t know what you do). If you suppress estradiol too much it might lead to injuries, bad mood and other not pleasent side effects). The universal advice is to keep it in the middle range and do blood works before and after cycle. But the reference range does not change, it stays still the same.
