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The one log you'll want to follow - Deca Only

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Sierra2500hd said:
Where can I get Epiandro and will you educate me on what it is?
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You can get it many places- amazon, supplement sites, etc. The best deal I found was Dark Carnival brand on Gym n Tonic's site (a sponsor here, also owned by Wesley who loves it and has done good logs on it- Google wesley inman epiandro). 300-400mg ED will have some effect, I did 600 and was happy with it. It's safe too.

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bc123jm said:
as long as you diet and drugs are there all you need to do is stimulate the muscle
i maintain this back with just cable rows and pull downs
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looking killer bro! How many sets do you typically do per muscle group?
 
I'm not sure the scope of this log is to measure ejection fraction percentages before,during and after this Deca only cycle. In fact, you could perform this personal study on many different AAS and not just Deca. While what you speak of is very important, it would be better suited for a longer length study to show the effects of AAS on this particular issue.

j2048b said:
If ur gonna do a deca only please go to the cardiologist and get an ejection fraction measured as well as heart size and valves, might be the only way to tell wht sides ur getting as ur bw wont show much if anything.....

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bc123jm said:
thanks man but i really dont,, just when diet and training are consistent i transform . then add some drugs and i look the same but 20 lbs more muscle
here is on old pic from a long time ago.. you wouldnt say the guy on the left has good genetics... thats a fat 165lbs no training at all eating shit.. the after is natty 12 weeks later at 155lbs.. strict diet 3 day a week high volume training routine
today i have the same shape. just at a lean 176 lbs on drugs

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Holy shit, bc123jm. If that is 12 weeks, naturally, then you truly are a genetic freak. 98% of the rest of us could not do that transformation in 12 weeks on gear and with a coach. Damn. I do not even look as good as the second picture with several cycles and decades of lifting and a very good knowledge of diet developed over years of learning.

Those pics make me want to take up TV watching and drinking beer as my new hobbies.

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That guy has hair. :p
 
malfeasance said:
So Lockthan is running 800 mg Deca and nothing else, no test.

TheComeback is running a gram of Deca and 250 mg Test E.

bc123jm is running NPP at a gram with test prop at 233.3333333 mg a week.
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Is this still accurate?
 
Diets going well.

Training is retarded intense. I actually threw up a bit in my mouth not even half way through this new back workout today.

Blood donation tomorrow, blood work monday or tuesday.

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Looking forward to it.

I wonder...did the EA guys start their deca study with Test levels in the tank or in the normal range?


Lokthan said:
Diets going well.

Training is retarded intense. I actually threw up a bit in my mouth not even half way through this new back workout today.

Blood donation tomorrow, blood work monday or tuesday.

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Following

Really disappointed with the lack of tranny porn
 
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ldog said:
Looking forward to it.

I wonder...did the EA guys start their deca study with Test levels in the tank or in the normal range?
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They said they did but.. Who knows with those clowns

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Just seen this, so subbed. Got some thoughts on it later, currently awoke in an ambien dream.
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Sweet dreams ahead!
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omgbossis34 said:
Just seen this, so subbed. Got some thoughts on it later
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I sent you a PM but may have sent it to the wrong person. I was hoping to get some of your caber wisdom!
Would you start it the first day of pin?
A week or so in?
When the pecker quits working?
And then of course any other thoughts you may have would be great appreciated.


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TheComeback said:
I sent you a PM but may have sent it to the wrong person. I was hoping to get some of your caber wisdom!
Would you start it the first day of pin?
A week or so in?
When the pecker quits working?
And then of course any other thoughts you may have would be great appreciated.


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This wasn't directed at me but I'm a believer in trying to stop something before it begins. Half a mg twice a week should be plenty
 
i dont know how to multi quote to fuck all you....
MAlf.... you got me i wasnt totally natty... the hair was a piece from hair club for men,, and yes same dose foe me starts next week...

MOTO.... my workouts arent really conventional .. i just train to maintain,,, so i do high volume high reps.. like 8-20 range... i dont count , i dont go to failure. i just go by how i feel that day ... i kinda do like modified circuit training.. hard to explain,, but i dont train that hard anymore,,, i did years ago . i am an old man now with joint problems and shit ,,, but built my base with Dorian style blood and guts training
 
old man hell.....I'm 45 and you have to be my age!!


bc123jm said:
i dont know how to multi quote to fuck all you....
MAlf.... you got me i wasnt totally natty... the hair was a piece from hair club for men,, and yes same dose foe me starts next week...

MOTO.... my workouts arent really conventional .. i just train to maintain,,, so i do high volume high reps.. like 8-20 range... i dont count , i dont go to failure. i just go by how i feel that day ... i kinda do like modified circuit training.. hard to explain,, but i dont train that hard anymore,,, i did years ago . i am an old man now with joint problems and shit ,,, but built my base with Dorian style blood and guts training
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ldog said:
old man hell.....I'm 45 and you have to be my age!!
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i;m 46 ,, be 47 i a few months ,,, but really starting to feel my age,,, thats why i want to focus more on health and just a good jacked / beach build
 
Yeah bro...I feel you but I'm not mentally in that place yet. I still kill it in the gym and show the young bucks that the old man can still hang!

bc123jm said:
i;m 46 ,, be 47 i a few months ,,, but really starting to feel my age,,, thats why i want to focus more on health and just a good jacked / beach build
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I'm 45 and fixing to do my 3rd bb competition since July 1st. Just local shows no nationals comps or nothing. Been competitive and took first place in the big boy open middle weight class. First time ever. Gave up on competing again back in 2014 cause I just said its not worth it. Money ,family,and health had a lot to do with it. I had planned on just working out when I could and follow some what of a normal diet. HUH that went south really quick. 2 yrs later I was a butter ball, moon face , fat ass and body hurt from head to toe. If an all time weight of 221 and at 5'9" I said this has got to stop. I'm getting back in shape and body responded bettter then ever. So it's been a good come back but this is it are divorced if not. Lol

I really interested to see what results bc123jm gets.
bc123jm is running NPP at a gram with test prop at 233.3333333 mg a week.
 
Thanks for chiming in....I'm in my 40's as well. Us old folks need to stick together. Welcome to Gear Church bro...good folks here with great products.

This entire log is going to be very educational.


dpaytonenator said:
I'm 45 and fixing to do my 3rd bb competition since July 1st. Just local shows no nationals comps or nothing. Been competitive and took first place in the big boy open middle weight class. First time ever. Gave up on competing again back in 2014 cause I just said its not worth it. Money ,family,and health had a lot to do with it. I had planned on just working out when I could and follow some what of a normal diet. HUH that went south really quick. 2 yrs later I was a butter ball, moon face , fat ass and body hurt from head to toe. If an all time weight of 221 and at 5'9" I said this has got to stop. I'm getting back in shape and body responded bettter then ever. So it's been a good come back but this is it are divorced if not. Lol

I really interested to see what results bc123jm gets.
bc123jm is running NPP at a gram with test prop at 233.3333333 mg a week.
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Nipples are a bit puffy today, nothin crazy but slightly more than normal

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Im gonna pin this craziness today, for the first time. Going wirh a Sunday Wednesday schedule.

Question for all you fellas...if I start noticing weener problems, should I...
1) ride it out for a few weeks and reassess
2) start .5mg caber twice week
3) up the test a tad
4) proviron

Or a combination of some of the above?

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TheComeback said:
Im gonna pin this craziness today, for the first time. Going wirh a Sunday Wednesday schedule.

Question for all you fellas...if I start noticing weener problems, should I...
1) ride it out for a few weeks and reassess
2) start .5mg caber twice week
3) up the test a tad
4) proviron

Or a combination of some of the above?

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id be looking at the caber myself. Keep some boner pills on deck just in case
 
Now that people are actually starting their logs if everyone subbed to this thread could please keep personal conversations in PMs or on a different thread that would be appreciated.

I want this to be an informational and easily readible log. With 3 people it can get messy. So please keep convos about the log itsself or each participant.


BC and comeback. Like i do in my previous logs i think each person should do a daily update in Bold lettering. Basically go over how you feel, look, any side effects. Etc etc. Preferably at the end of the day Cliffnotes.


I think itll keep this nice and clean and easy to view.

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yep...this is good idea.

Lokthan said:
Now that people are actually starting their logs if everyone subbed to this thread could please keep personal conversations in PMs or on a different thread that would be appreciated.

I want this to be an informational and easily readible log. With 3 people it can get messy. So please keep convos about the log itsself or each participant.


BC and comeback. Like i do in my previous logs i think each person should do a daily update in Bold lettering. Basically go over how you feel, look, any side effects. Etc etc. Preferably at the end of the day Cliffnotes.


I think itll keep this nice and clean and easy to view.

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I never run Deca without low dose Test and Mast.


TheComeback said:
Im gonna pin this craziness today, for the first time. Going wirh a Sunday Wednesday schedule.

Question for all you fellas...if I start noticing weener problems, should I...
1) ride it out for a few weeks and reassess
2) start .5mg caber twice week
3) up the test a tad
4) proviron

Or a combination of some of the above?

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ordered bloodwork today should have requisition available soon


Anyone know how to bold lettering?
 
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