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Best carrier for liqud orals?

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I was thinking of making up some liquid var, halo, asin, and sdrol. What are good carriers and solvents for liquid orals?
 
Are you wanting to make a solution or suspension? You can easily make a solution with Dbol, Winny, ect using PEG 300. It tastes decent.

For suspensions I would uses Oraplus.. you can find it on Amazon. It's kind of flavorless.. you could throw in a little dextrose and candy flavoring of your choice.

Everyone has their own way of doing it. I'm sure you will get different replies than mine. I just know what works for me. :)
 
Skip.. some sources use it for shelf life. Also some compounds won't hold in a solution with out it I believe.

...and some sources just use it because they're dumbies and don't care! Cheap and easy.
 
Ever clear (or moonshine is even better) is an excellent solvent. I use VG and ever clear as the VG just leaves a nice sweet flavor to it.

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I would like solutions just because dosing should be more uniform. I would REALLY like to get a halo sublingual.
 
Everclear(95%ethanol) is an excellent solvent for many polar and non-polar compounds. Propylene glycol is also a really good solvent. PEG-x00(300,400,600) works well with either of those as a pretty good cosolvent. VG works as a solvent by itself for some compounds.

omgbossis34, what all have you had success with using VG alone?

Pretty much, if you can't get it to dissolve in ethanol/propylene glycol, it isn't going into solution. That oraplus stuff looks like a really good option for making a suspension, that could be much more concentrated than a typical solution using ethanol/anything else.

The nice thing about using at least some everclear is that it is sensitive enough to oxidation to be oxidized preferentially over any other compound we are trying to keep stable in solution.
 
Ever clear should enough to dissolve nearly anything but I find PG to taste like crap lol. I've used ever clear & VG on aromasin,tbol and cialis, will be making a few new ones soon. VG will dissolve raws just as well ever clear in most cases.

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Montego1 said:
Moonshine orals
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I noticed the liquor store had bottles of moonshine the other day, It was flavored too. I was thinking that with some sweet tasting VG sounds yum!

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How much everclear do you have to drink for a dose of let's say..........cialis?

Does it make you drunk with a hard on?
 
My buddy makes moonshine.. has a distillery ect. Makes watermelon, pineapple, butterscotch ect ect flavors. It's delicious. I may snag a few jars and try it out with some orals.

....hehehe
 
You won't find real moonshine in a store.. not saying it isn't good taste wise. But you could start your truck with real moonshine. Haha
 
Skip Foursome said:
How much everclear do you have to drink for a dose of let's say..........cialis?

Does it make you drunk with a hard on?
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Lol nah the usual 30mg/ml so if you want a boner for a few days you may drink 1ml

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Skip Foursome said:
Okay, I never considered liquid orals so just wondering other people's experience.
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Depends on the oral dosage but on average its .5 to a 1ml, very small amount. The nasty stuff I used to mix with some Powerade or something similar and chug it.

I was going to order a pill capping machine until I tried the vg. I was even more surprised to find out it would cancel out the alcohol taste! Pg & VG both cost the same, I buy my VG off eBay. VG on its own tends to take a bit more heat before it dissolves raws in my experience so i prefer to start the dilution with ever clear and a tiny amount of heat if needed. Then I begin blending in the VG.

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Most moonshine is nowhere near 95% ethanol. It is usually somewhere around 75-80% before being diluted, unless multiple distillations are done.
 
Phil6502 said:
Most moonshine is nowhere near 95% ethanol. It is usually somewhere around 75-80% before being diluted, unless multiple distillations are done.
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Yep, got to make sure to check before you buy it! Thanks for mentioning that!

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Phil6502 said:
The nice thing about using at least some everclear is that it is sensitive enough to oxidation to be oxidized preferentially over any other compound we are trying to keep stable in solution.
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This is good thinking. Ethanol oxidizes very readily
 
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Hey brothers,I'm new to homebrewing liquid orals.I'd rather make pressed pills@ the moment though I have oraplus,everclear&peg300 I believe it wasn't marked when it came in and I couldn't remember if I ordered 300/600I do believe that it was the 300. OK so for my 1st newb Q what is this 'vg' that you keep mentioning? 2nd I'm not sure if I want to order the orasweet to make a 60/40ratio oraplus being the high side for the suspension from what I've read on the perrigo pamphlet. Or can someone please help me w an alternative to a concoction containing 2of the above said chemicals on hand and at what%. Thank you all in advance, regards
 
Hey there brothers in brewing.I have aQ?
Im new to liquid orals but not brewing inj.
The other day I went ahead and tried to brew what is supposed to be dbol.in everclear,I thought it was all good until I checked it out nxt afternoon and there were crystallization on the bottom. I went ahead and prepared a hot water bath to bring it back but a small amount stayed. Any opinions on what went wrong or how to bring back? I also did Nolva in everclear&peg300or600bottle wasnt labeled and I had forgotten which I ordered but it came out perfectly and is still good.
Personally I'm thinking about a pill press as of now though I have eveclear,oraplus,&peg
 
BERSERKER973 said:
Hey there brothers in brewing.I have aQ?
Im new to liquid orals but not brewing inj.
The other day I went ahead and tried to brew what is supposed to be dbol.in everclear,I thought it was all good until I checked it out nxt afternoon and there were crystallization on the bottom. I went ahead and prepared a hot water bath to bring it back but a small amount stayed. Any opinions on what went wrong or how to bring back? I also did Nolva in everclear&peg300or600bottle wasnt labeled and I had forgotten which I ordered but it came out perfectly and is still good.
Personally I'm thinking about a pill press as of now though I have eveclear,oraplus,&peg
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How many mg/mL and how much ethanol? I have a shitload of dbol but haven't messed with it. It may need a higher alcohol concentration. Try heating it again on a hotplate until fully dissolved and then let it cool as slow as possible. If it falls out again you'll need to cut down the concentration with more ethanol most likely
 
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