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    Quote Originally Posted by Danger1 View Post
    What's up big rich, appreciate the thread, I wanna talk about clen, could you share your experiences with it and how you feel it's best utilized, I haven't tried it yet. I'm aware of the benefits as far as pre contest or cutting goes but how do you feel about using it while in an offseason mode trying to add muscle, would it be helpful in minimizing body fat gain or would it be more counterproductive while in a caloric surplus
    Forget the clen on a bulk. It doesn't make sense. If you're gaining fat on a bulk, that's because your diet is off. Clen won't fix that. Cleaning up your diet will though and adding some cardio. Clen doesn't just melt body fat off you unless your in a deficit and burning it anyways. Your diet will always dictate your results. Not the drugs.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherk View Post
    Forget the clen on a bulk. It doesn't make sense. If you're gaining fat on a bulk, that's because your diet is off. Clen won't fix that. Cleaning up your diet will though and adding some cardio. Clen doesn't just melt body fat off you unless your in a deficit and burning it anyways. Your diet will always dictate your results. Not the drugs.
    This is really what needs to be emphasized. Focus on diet and training first.
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    Big thanks for putting this thread up. I am new to forum and have been out of touch on anabolics and trying to get caught up again. This forum has been really helpful. i am 44yrs @ 240 lbs w/ 36" waist and don't want to gain anymore weight or size. At this point I only want to be leaner and not bulk up. I have tren e, EQ and var from GP. I want to know your thought on stacking tren and EQ finishing with var. do you thinkusing NPP or one of the blends would be better? I began the var about a week ago because i never used it before and I wanted to see what it was like on its own. So far it feels great lots more energy waiting to see what the next week or so brings.

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    Hey guys, I'd love some advice...

    Attachment 25147 This is me early October of last year. 39 years old, 7 years of constant soccer. I was fit, 6'0 190 lbs. Practiced with my U18 boys that I coach twice a week and soccer on Sundays. Before the start of last year I got on here looking for a little help and ended up going the research chem (mk-677 and gw1516) route. After the season ended I threw in the towel and decided to start lifting.
    Attachment 25148I chose an old school gym, never crowded, all iron. I train via the bodyspace app because I have 0 experience lifting. Even playing football and soccer in HS I never lifted.
    Attachment 25149 This me about 5 weeks in. I was feeling good gains mostly because I have never lifted before. I was about 210 lbs here.
    Attachment 25150 Almost 10 weeks, 213 lbs.
    Attachment 25151This is current. 216 lbs, now 40 years old. I finished one program, learned a lot. With this new program I lost the small definition I did have. I am learning to slow down and work the muscles the lifts are intended for but I still have a lot to learn. You can also see I still have the O40 chest and belly fat, and also while I had quick gains that they leveled off quickly.
    I love working hard in the gym, and it's for me, no whiny ass team mates, or bitches that can't work for it.

    I'm posting in here because I've always read good things about GP, and the prices look great. I dunno if screen shots are allowed so I wont post it, but my cart for the GP site has Test -e @250, aromasin, clomid, and cialis. Since this is my first run I was going to do test-e twice a week @250, aromasin for the estro (not sure how much per week?) and have the clomid for pct. Does this sound ok? I still need to source the needles. I had wanted to do this around Xmas but had some bumps in the road and now my local pharm wont sell them without a script.

    Other notes: I had bloods done when I was 38 and went to the doc about ed. They were on the low end of normal. Being 40 I contacted them about just doing TRT but I have read so many money pit scenarios it kinda scared me off.

    Anyways thanx in advance for any help. I will try to order tonight as I'm getting anxious. I've been messing with stupid bitcoin shit for a month, yes it's awesome but not when you never used it before and can't buy more than $15 at a time and the price keeps changing.

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    What's up bro your pics didn't show up brotha. I would be glad to help you brotha. So you are ready to do a cycle, so let's get this layed out for you bro. These are the things i reccomend I will lay it out for you bro. I suggest you get pre cycle bloods to have a base to compare to. It's important to do pre mid and post cycle bloods.

    Test e 4 to 500mg pw 1-12
    Aromasin 12.5mg ed get bloodwork done 4 weeks in and adjust as needed.

    PCT will start 2 weeks after last pin of test
    I suggest using both nolvadex and clomid they work great together.
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    Clomid 50505050
    Some do different dosing but this has always worked great for me.


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    Awesome, I just pulled the trigger with GP. I will have to source Nolva soon though as I did not add it to my order. I did add another test-e vial so I have enough for 10-12 weeks.

    And ya not sure why the picts didn't work, maybe because I tried to attach them.

    From searching the forums I found needles, am I ok with a 1ml syringe 23g 1"? They had a box of 100 with needle and syringe all atached. <-Sorry the attached vs just needle shit is confusing AF

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    What's up bro your pics didn't show up brotha. I would be glad to help you brotha. So you are ready to do a cycle, so let's get this layed out for you bro. These are the things i reccomend I will lay it out for you bro. I suggest you get pre cycle bloods to have a base to compare to. It's important to do pre mid and post cycle bloods.

    Test e 4 to 500mg pw 1-12
    Aromasin 12.5mg ed get bloodwork done 4 weeks in and adjust as needed.

    PCT will start 2 weeks after last pin of test
    I suggest using both nolvadex and clomid they work great together.
    Nolvadex 40402020
    Clomid 50505050
    Some do different dosing but this has always worked great for me.


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    Here's what I do brotha. I order 100 23 gauge full syringes, 100 25x1 gauge needles. Use the 23 to draw then switch to the 25x1 to inject...

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    Free help and advice for the newer members of the communty

    What state do you live in? Most pharmacies sell pins cheaper then you can get online.


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    Whats up rich?


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    Quote Originally Posted by tren2k14 View Post
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    Same here^^^^ 23 to draw 25 to pin I order pins from drug supply store.

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    My state barely switched the law as of 2/12, they had a note at the local pharm

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_rich View Post
    What's up guys. Many of you that know me or have interacted with Me know I enjoy helping people reach their goals. I am now teamed up with gorilla pharm and I wanted to make a thread for any member, new or old to get cycle or training help. Gp is a very strong team with lots of knowledge. We at gorilla pharm know how it can be preparing for your first cycle we were all new once. So please if you have any questions, want advice on what compound or compounds to run, cycle length, training tips, pct help, anything , feel free to pm me or post it here. Recently , while reaching out and offering my services to help the newer members of the community. I discovered many members are plain uncomfortable asking questions on the open forum. so I encourage anyone that has questions that dosent want to post it on the open forum please feel free to pm me or anyone of the reps here.


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    This is really great so is it wrong if I ask how long does gorilla take for shipping can't seem to find out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blkpanther91 View Post
    This is really great so is it wrong if I ask how long does gorilla take for shipping can't seem to find out
    Read the FAQ on the site. No T/A times are discussed in the open forum.




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