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    Checking your HGH serum levels through blood work!
    (Textbook testing for therapeutic levels vs 4-10ius is far different)



    In today's age we are limited to testing methods when testing our HGH serum levels due to expense factors.. Though direct HGH serum blood work seems to be the only practical method we have available when it concerns "Meat Heads on a budget" such as PrivateLabs/labcorp, it's known as a "Crude method" like all blood work, however it's a good indicator of where we came from, where we are, and where we are going!

    Before we begin, I want to reiterate the fact that there are different testing methods that will yields different
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    For instance ECLIA vs LC MS-MS; ECLIA Method which is short for "Electrochemiluminescent Immunoassay".. Itís a fast and affordable method to measure total hormones in your blood. Many labs use this method because itís automatic and doesnít require too much work on a lab technicianís part, it's simply the standard affordable method done by most clinics for blood tests..It's not reliable or entirely accurate..It's simply just a "standard generic method", fast turn around, nothing more, nothing less...It's simply just a fast,quick snap shot for the moment to give almost instant results, so it's somewhat accurate for that sole purpose when it concerns "Just tell me whats going on now, yes or no"...


    LC MS-MS Method is short for "liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry". Itís considered the gold standard method by many researchers in measuring small molecules. Its accuracy and consistency is why the CDC is recommending LC/MS to be the standard method used when testing HGH/IGF or even total testosterone. Because LC/MS is more sensitive than ECLIA, doctors typically use this method when testing patients with really low levels with HGH or even again - testosterone levels, and testing individuals such as women and children. While itís more accurate and sensitive, the LC/MS method is more expensive than ECLIA. And it takes a bit longer to get your results...Always place into great consideration that with the LC MS-MS method it will be more pronounced with measuring specific concentrations..

    The truth of the matter is, HGH serum levels only validates it's legitimacy NOT potency because testing results will vary "dramatically" from each individual to the next..Testing HGH levels is a crude method at best, at the same time providing a keen indication on what's taken place..


    Testing for IGF serum levels is one of the better methods to assure the quality, in which will help validate the authenticity of the product!

    FYI; Always have a baseline, knowing your baseline is pivotal especially if you have a history with testing and having a complete understanding of what your REAL baseline is, this way comparisons can be applied from prior dates to future instances, or even protocols, as there's numerous variables that may effect results..


    Test pricing can range from 50-75$ in some cases for a HGH or IGF panel http://www.privatemdlabs.com/

    Testing HGH serum through a blood panel is NOT the current lab standard,IGF levels establish the effectiveness of TRUE HGH levels,and they are seen and recognized by a labs aspect as the RELIABLE standard (depending on time of day,diet,and/or the influence of injection of HGH(exogenous) other then natural levels (endogenous ),However, I'm not suggesting that HGH labs are poor with inaccuracy, in fact I'm going to implementing that it's a GREAT alternative compared to the expensive lab standards, as it can provide overwhelming evidence if your HGH is in fact real HGH..

    Now, if your utilizing HGH through subq/IM administration (exogenous influence) your levels will spike approximately 3 hrs after administration, an IFG analysis is completely unnecessary UNLESS you have tested prior for baseline levels and wish to compare, the simple HGH serum test will yield a sufficient readout if in fact your HGH is legit or not, as your HGH serum will stand far outside of the standard reference range.. FACT- This is a proven method to determine a YES or NO.. (Its's suggested to do a pre base line readings on HGH & IGF levels for comparison)
    Also, always keep notes when testings, with each pre and after test method..


    Preparing for Blood test (6-10ius pre testing)

    There's a lot of controversy in regards to fasting vs finding it unnecessary.. There's some truth behind this for great reason, such as fasting enhances growth hormone secretion and amplifies the complex rhythms of growth hormone secretion in men (when testing natural levels), levels can be very infrequent and erratic, especially during a fed state, as many nutrients posses an unpredictable effect on GH release in most people..(metabolization sensitivity will vary).. However, when testing 3hrs after IM injection of HGH fasting has been proven to be irrelevant to serum levels (in some/most patients).In order to rule out and opposing factors that can be questionable with manipulation through serum levels, it is SUGGESTED to fast 6-10 hrs pre-blood drawing. Carbohydrate intake should be lowered considerably 24 hrs prior, up until 6-10 hrs fast, there after no consumption (glucose may suppress GH release effecting spike levels)..

    Dosages and Serum levels to expect

    6-8ius can yield 15-50 ng/mL as ranges can vary (this has been proven in real life experiences, regardless of the quality, generic or US Pharma grade,some user do NOT respond well with HGH injections, fact this is why it's suggested to keep notes from prior testing) Toss text book reads out the window!


    Remain inactive pre-testing


    As Further recommendations have it, absolutely no strenuous or rigorous stimulation through activities such as running,walking,or exercising, anything that can stimulation hormonal levels and HGH secretions..

    Consumption of water is fine, a glass or 2 will NOT hurt, but limit hrs up until testings..

    The usage of alcohol and/or tobacco is entirely prohibited, and not recommended, especially alcohol..cease all consumption 72hrs prior due to the brake down enzymes and glucose levels and pancreases secretions from alcohol..

    Recap-

    6-10 ius (IM) 3 hrs pre testing (subq administration possess a slower rate with metabolizing in some users, IM has proven a 2-6 fold in levels)
    Fasting is recommended, but not necessary (suggested 6-10 hrs pre)
    Limit carb intake to absolute minimum
    Consumption of water is OK if limited to 1 glass or 2, and not 3 hrs pre testing
    No strenuous activities under any circumstances before testing
    The use of alcohol and tobacco and other drugs should be completely eliminated 72 hrs prior to testing

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    Annnnddd that's the truth

    GH serum tests validates it's legitimacy.
    Igf test more closely validates "quality". The problem is hgh and ifg testing results varies dramatically from person to person.

    The only way to really show quality of the product is to have a long history of testing. And to know what your baseline is. And baseline results can vary based on other hormones. So it's not an easy thing to establish.

    We work on crude testing methods... and physical results!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseljimmy View Post
    Annnnddd that's the truth

    GH serum tests validates it's legitimacy.
    Igf test more closely validates "quality". The problem is hgh and ifg testing results varies dramatically from person to person.

    The only way to really show quality of the product is to have a long history of testing. And to know what your baseline is. And baseline results can vary based on other hormones. So it's not an easy thing to establish.

    We work on crude testing methods... and physical results!
    Bingo bango.. people need to always keep logs, this really applies with most cycles and such..its a great way to review and see what worked and what didnt, at what dosages..

    baseline levels are key, it truly provides a snap shot of where you are, and where you will be.. like you said "We work on crude testing methods... and physical results", its our responsibility to know what is working and when, and at what dosages, keeping records throughout history has proven to work for many reasons!
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    Joe 2013 just posted some labs in the lab testing section with history. Looks good.

    http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com...126#post752126

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeburning View Post
    Joe 2013 just posted some labs in the lab testing section with history. Looks good.

    http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com...126#post752126

    Good post brother! thanks for sharing... looks good to see some good blood work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeburning View Post
    Joe 2013 just posted some labs in the lab testing section with history. Looks good.

    http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com...126#post752126
    How did I miss that?! Very promising results right there. Good ole Joe. He's always the first to try and test a new EP product when it comes out. He always goes out of his way to post bloods and reviews without anyone asking him to. He's a true EP VIP

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    Let's get some more GH levels posted!! where they at?
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    I did a one month of use IGF test and posted it here:

    http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com...962#post919962

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseljimmy View Post
    Annnnddd that's the truth

    GH serum tests validates it's legitimacy.
    Igf test more closely validates "quality". The problem is hgh and ifg testing results varies dramatically from person to person.

    The only way to really show quality of the product is to have a long history of testing. And to know what your baseline is. And baseline results can vary based on other hormones. So it's not an easy thing to establish.

    We work on crude testing methods... and physical results!
    True, but IGF-1 is still the best measure. My score tend to be much lower than average, but compared to my low natural production I get consistent results.

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