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I would rather see that estradiol in range....I feel better. Blast some HCG 1500 iu e2d but you will need an AI....you will be better off, trust me. It always kick starts my interest.

Your kidney and liver scores are excellent.
 
Leg day today. Basic, and straight to the point.

LifeFitness leg press (one leg at a time)
290lbs x 20
340lbs x 12
380lbs x 12
470lbs x 12

Hatfield Squats
225lbs x 12
315lbs x 12
365lbs x 10
405lbs x 8
425lbs x 8

Hack Squats (close, v-stance)
315lbs x 12
315lbs x 12
405lbs x 12
405lbs x 12
 
237.6lbs this AM. Today was my last shot of masteron. I'm going to continue on with 1 gram of test e weekly along with the gh and insulin. I'm going to give the masteron a couple weeks to clear and then begin taking exemestane to control e2. Thinking about starting it at 12.5mg/day and see how that goes.

Chest day yesterday, sponsored by Hammer Strength.

Incline cable flyes - warm-up
4 sets of 20 w/30lbs

Incline barbell press
225lbs x 15
275lbs x 12
315lbs x 10
335lbs x 7
335lbs x 5

HS decline press
270lbs x 15
360lbs x 12
450lbs x 10
450lbs x 8

HS wide chest
180lbs x 15
270lbs x 12
320lbs x 12
320lbs x 12
 
Haven't posted any food porn in awhile. Here's meal #2 for the day

5 extra large eggs
3 oz polish sausage
1/2 c peppers and onions
1 English muffin

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Arm training last night.

Tricep extensions (cable w/rope)
5 sets with a rep range of 12-20

Overhead tricep extensions (cable w/v-handle)
4 sets with a rep range of 10-15

Tricep pushdowns (cable w/cambered bar)
4 sets with a rep range of 12-15

Underhand tricep extensions (cable, one arm at a time)
4 sets with a rep range of 10-15

Barbell curls
5 sets, 8-12 reps

Dumbbell hammer curls
5 sets, 8-12 reps
 
Chest training last night:

Cable flyes - warm-up
4 sets of 15 reps w/30lbs

Incline barbell press
135lbs x 15
225lbs x 12
275lbs x 12
315lbs x 10
335lbs x 8
355lbs x 5

HS Decline Press
270lbs x 12
360lbs x 10
410lbs x 8
410lbs x 7

HS Wide Chest
270lbs x 12
320lbs x 12
370lbs x 10
370lbs x 8

Cable Flyes - FreeMotion machine
60lbs x 12
80lbs x 12
100lbs x 10
100lbs x 9
 
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Montego1 said:
How's it going bud?
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Struggling to be honest. I've been fighting to stay motivated over the last few weeks due to stagnant body weight and lack of progress in the gym. I need a week off but I'm trying to hold off because I have vacation coming up the second week of September. Regardless, I need a change. I think a training regimen change is in order but I haven't given it much thought so I'm not sure what direction to go. I need something that allows me to be in the gym 4-5 days per week, and approx 1.5 hours each session.

I'm really at a loss as to why I cannot gain weight. I've bulked up to 260lbs on my current diet in the past, but for some reason I cannot get above 240lbs now. I'm not sure if it's my thyroid meds, the masteron I was taking, the 50mcg of T3, HGH, (fuck, maybe all of it) or something else contributing to this.

I've also had some distractions outside the gym that is fucking with my focus. The past two weeks I haven't even felt like going to the gym but I've fought through it and managed to get in there 4 days each week. I'm just trying to plug along until this passes, which I know it will. I just feel like I need a break for a week or so. I've been training balls out with no breaks since the end of December.
 
TripleOvertime said:
Yeah sounds like a break would be ideal. Take some time off, get some of those things done around the house while summer is still here. Play around on that tractor of yours.
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I was actually out on it last night pushing some dirt around and smoothing out my gravel driveway. Getting ready to pull the trigger on this beast tomorrow. Can't wait...

https://youtu.be/Gt55l_i_82M
 
Here's my current gear protocol for anyone that's wondering.

1gr Test E/wk
5ius HGH daily
16ius Novolog pre-workout
12.5mg exemestane EOD
50mcg T3 daily

I was going to start the exemestane next week but my nipples starting getting itchy as hell two days ago so I decided to jump on it. The masteron cleared faster than I was anticipating.
 
This is the other thing I've been preoccupied with. Wife and I took a road trip last weekend to pick out an English Mastiff puppy and put down a deposit. He won't be ready until 9/15.

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Nice pup bro. You have some serious determination. I have found that once in a while, it’s ok to take a break man. Even 4 or 5 days will really bring that motivation back. Sometimes I go to the gym just to turn around and walk out. Seriously man you’ve been killing it for a long tine. If I was you I wouldn’t go near a gym for a whole week. Stick to your diet and keep your gear protocol consistent but take a week off to slow down and enjoy yourself and then you will snap right back into the thick of things and won’t burn out. Good luck broski!
 
TouaregV8 said:
Struggling to be honest. I've been fighting to stay motivated over the last few weeks due to stagnant body weight and lack of progress in the gym. I need a week off but I'm trying to hold off because I have vacation coming up the second week of September. Regardless, I need a change. I think a training regimen change is in order but I haven't given it much thought so I'm not sure what direction to go. I need something that allows me to be in the gym 4-5 days per week, and approx 1.5 hours each session.

I'm really at a loss as to why I cannot gain weight. I've bulked up to 260lbs on my current diet in the past, but for some reason I cannot get above 240lbs now. I'm not sure if it's my thyroid meds, the masteron I was taking, the 50mcg of T3, HGH, (fuck, maybe all of it) or something else contributing to this.

I've also had some distractions outside the gym that is fucking with my focus. The past two weeks I haven't even felt like going to the gym but I've fought through it and managed to get in there 4 days each week. I'm just trying to plug along until this passes, which I know it will. I just feel like I need a break for a week or so. I've been training balls out with no breaks since the end of December.
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What's the T3 for

I have advices.
 
Montego1 said:
What's the T3 for

I have advices.
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I was thinking that too. Especially with the GH, and if there's other thyroid meds that could be a little much

Or getting stagnated in training. Maybe switching to some kind of program like mountaindog or DC would help, and throwing in more intensification techniques
 
Without asking a ton of questions, here's what I think.

If you're not growing, you're just simply not eating enough.

Second. Gh is going to increase T3 on its own. So those levels are probably elevated and then you're adding a more then maintenance dose on top of that. With what I would guess are very high T3 levels, you'll have a hard time adding size no matter what.

A low dose of T3 can help with nutrient partition and aid in gaining size but, it would be a small dose. No more then 25mcg and considering the gh, probably none is needed.

I would bet, you're being pretty strict on diet as well. The mindset of gaining a lot of size and using more "advanced" supplements makes most guys get very strict thinking they want to do it perfectly. So if I had to guess, I would bet you have kept the diet pretty much the same and haven't increased calories to accommodate the increase in lean tissue gained. Weight goes up and up and up then you stall. Gotta add in the food.

Take time off the gym. You have vacation coming sure but, what good is pounding yourself into the ground if you're not growing? You grow resting. I don't think intensity would be a factor knowing what I know about you. I would bet that rest IS. This is part of why I went to a 4 day split. I wasn't getting enough recovery time. I train like a monster and anything more then 4 days a week I just slowly stall and progress subsides. Going 4 days, I can keep that super high intensity I love and brutalize the muscle in shorter more frequent sessions while still getting plenty of rest.

When you're ready to give the keys to the car to someone else, pm me

I could be completely off base in my assessment though.
 
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Definitely would be dropping the t3 and adding in t4


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Thanks for the advice, fellas. It's much appreciated.

A little background on me in case you guys don't already know. My thyroid gland was removed in 2012 (papillary carcinoma). I've been taking Armour (naturally desiccated thyroid) and I'm currently on 240mg/day. I had been taking 300mg/day but doctor bumped me down due to recent labs. I added some extra T3 just to help reduce body fat.

So based on that, would you guys still suggest I stop, or reduce, the T3?

I agree with you, Monte. If you're not growing, you're not eating enough. That's something I have always preached. I guess it just isn't making sense to me why I'm not growing when I've bulked to 260lbs in the past on my current diet. And yes, reducing training to 4 days a week is probably a good idea.

I was thinking about giving DC training a go. A buddy of mine in ATL uses it and the volume/frequency does sound appealing. Mountaindog would also be a good bet as I've always been a fan of JM. Hell, I even thought about reverting back to a 5x5 routine for awhile just to change things up. I'll take a closer look into DC and MD over the next few weeks and see what one sounds best for me.
 
TouaregV8 said:
This is the other thing I've been preoccupied with. Wife and I took a road trip last weekend to pick out an English Mastiff puppy and put down a deposit. He won't be ready until 9/15.

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You cant go wrong with the Mastiff breed, they are the most loyal and just great family members. I have 2 Cane Corso’s, they love me more then life and will give theirs for mine. If I can give you a suggestion on food, buy Fromm. It’s not cheap but best food I have found that works well for mastiff breed due to weight and allergies they are prone to.
 
TouaregV8 said:
Thanks for the advice, fellas. It's much appreciated.

A little background on me in case you guys don't already know. My thyroid gland was removed in 2012 (papillary carcinoma). I've been taking Armour (naturally desiccated thyroid) and I'm currently on 240mg/day. I had been taking 300mg/day but doctor bumped me down due to recent labs. I added some extra T3 just to help reduce body fat.

So based on that, would you guys still suggest I stop, or reduce, the T3?

I agree with you, Monte. If you're not growing, you're not eating enough. That's something I have always preached. I guess it just isn't making sense to me why I'm not growing when I've bulked to 260lbs in the past on my current diet. And yes, reducing training to 4 days a week is probably a good idea.

I was thinking about giving DC training a go. A buddy of mine in ATL uses it and the volume/frequency does sound appealing. Mountaindog would also be a good bet as I've always been a fan of JM. Hell, I even thought about reverting back to a 5x5 routine for awhile just to change things up. I'll take a closer look into DC and MD over the next few weeks and see what one sounds best for me.
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I would still reduce the t3.

Even without having a thyroid, using gh will increase the turn over of the t4 you use to T3. That's my experience at least.

Were you using this much thyroid hormone and gh the last time you bulked to 260?
 
TouaregV8 said:
Thanks for the advice, fellas. It's much appreciated.

A little background on me in case you guys don't already know. My thyroid gland was removed in 2012 (papillary carcinoma). I've been taking Armour (naturally desiccated thyroid) and I'm currently on 240mg/day. I had been taking 300mg/day but doctor bumped me down due to recent labs. I added some extra T3 just to help reduce body fat.

So based on that, would you guys still suggest I stop, or reduce, the T3?

I agree with you, Monte. If you're not growing, you're not eating enough. That's something I have always preached. I guess it just isn't making sense to me why I'm not growing when I've bulked to 260lbs in the past on my current diet. And yes, reducing training to 4 days a week is probably a good idea.

I was thinking about giving DC training a go. A buddy of mine in ATL uses it and the volume/frequency does sound appealing. Mountaindog would also be a good bet as I've always been a fan of JM. Hell, I even thought about reverting back to a 5x5 routine for awhile just to change things up. I'll take a closer look into DC and MD over the next few weeks and see what one sounds best for me.
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Dc and fortitude bulldozer training all those methods work for great shocking the muscle for 6-8 weeks but gets to a point to where you can no longer battle the log book safely and the possibility of injury comes in. I’ve known more people tear shit in dc training then any other method besides CrossFit lol.


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TouaregV8 said:
Thanks for the advice, fellas. It's much appreciated.

A little background on me in case you guys don't already know. My thyroid gland was removed in 2012 (papillary carcinoma). I've been taking Armour (naturally desiccated thyroid) and I'm currently on 240mg/day. I had been taking 300mg/day but doctor bumped me down due to recent labs. I added some extra T3 just to help reduce body fat.

So based on that, would you guys still suggest I stop, or reduce, the T3?

I agree with you, Monte. If you're not growing, you're not eating enough. That's something I have always preached. I guess it just isn't making sense to me why I'm not growing when I've bulked to 260lbs in the past on my current diet. And yes, reducing training to 4 days a week is probably a good idea.

I was thinking about giving DC training a go. A buddy of mine in ATL uses it and the volume/frequency does sound appealing. Mountaindog would also be a good bet as I've always been a fan of JM. Hell, I even thought about reverting back to a 5x5 routine for awhile just to change things up. I'll take a closer look into DC and MD over the next few weeks and see what one sounds best for me.
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First off, because your thyroid was removed I have no idea where to go from here as everything I have learned involved a functioning thyroid.

But for me T3 was a muscle wasting disease. Or it certainly looked that way. Maybe I took too much T3.

I dont think this subject matter applies to you but interesting read anyways regarding GH and thyroid supplementation:

http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.co...plementation?p=1375521&viewfull=1#post1375521
 
TouaregV8 said:
This is the other thing I've been preoccupied with. Wife and I took a road trip last weekend to pick out an English Mastiff puppy and put down a deposit. He won't be ready until 9/15.

8LGIMBz.jpg
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Friends of ours have two.

Awesome dogs with great demeanor.
 
Skip Foursome said:
First off, because your thyroid was removed I have no idea where to go from here as everything I have learned involved a functioning thyroid.

But for me T3 was a muscle wasting disease. Or it certainly looked that way. Maybe I took too much T3.

I dont think this subject matter applies to you but interesting read anyways regarding GH and thyroid supplementation:

http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.co...plementation?p=1375521&viewfull=1#post1375521
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Yes, I've always read too much T3, or T3 without AAS can lead to muscle wasting. I'll back down to 25mcg/day and see if things start moving forward again.
 
Montego1 said:
I would still reduce the t3. Were you using this much thyroid hormone and gh the last time you bulked to 260?
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I was not using T3 at that time, and I believe my Armour dose at that time was 300mg/day. My gh dose at that time was 3.3iu/day.

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tren2k14 said:
Dc and fortitude bulldozer training all those methods work for great shocking the muscle for 6-8 weeks but gets to a point to where you can no longer battle the log book safely and the possibility of injury comes in. I’ve known more people tear shit in dc training then any other method besides CrossFit lol.
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PM'd you. Thank you!
 
Skip Foursome said:
Friends of ours have two.

Awesome dogs with great demeanor.
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I never thought in a million years that I'd get another one due to all the slobber and drool, but we miss our last one terribly. They are awesome dogs.
 
tren2k14 said:
Dc and fortitude bulldozer training all those methods work for great shocking the muscle for 6-8 weeks but gets to a point to where you can no longer battle the log book safely and the possibility of injury comes in. I’ve known more people tear shit in dc training then any other method besides CrossFit lol.


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That's just not true at all.

If you follow either program correctly, you're not going to get injured unless you're sacrificing form for the book which is rule number one not to do.
 
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