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KageMorris10
03-10-2020, 02:58 PM
My wife is wanting to try a small cycle for her first time.
Stats;
5’7”
135lbs

She has a slim athletic build now but she wants to put on about 10lbs of muscle. Any recommendations? She’s not scared to pin.

REHH
03-10-2020, 03:04 PM
Anavar 10mg a day for 8 weeks

Turkeybacon
03-10-2020, 03:14 PM
Anavar 10mg a day for 8 weeksI'll 2nd this. Will be amazing for her

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GarlicChicken
03-10-2020, 04:06 PM
Anavar 10mg a day for 8 weeks
I'll 2nd this. Will be amazing for her

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custom
03-10-2020, 04:10 PM
My wife is wanting to try a small cycle for her first time.
Stats;
5’7”
135lbs

She has a slim athletic build now but she wants to put on about 10lbs of muscle. Any recommendations? She’s not scared to pin.
If she is not scared to pin this is what we got. It was designed especially for women:

VRKLY 149mg (Deca nandrolone deconate 17mgs, EQ bold undec 50mgs, Mast propionate 30mgs, NPP nadrolone phenylpropionate 35mgs, Primo enanthenate 17mgs)

Email us for a complete list: praetoriangear@protonmail.com

KageMorris10
03-10-2020, 04:50 PM
If she is not scared to pin this is what we got. It was designed especially for women:

VRKLY 149mg (Deca nandrolone deconate 17mgs, EQ bold undec 50mgs, Mast propionate 30mgs, NPP nadrolone phenylpropionate 35mgs, Primo enanthenate 17mgs)

Email us for a complete list: praetoriangear@protonmail.com

That seems like a helluva a mix! What kind of pinning schedule would she need. Also, what kind of results would these yield?

GearGoddess
03-10-2020, 04:57 PM
If she is not scared to pin this is what we got. It was designed especially for women:

VRKLY 149mg (Deca nandrolone deconate 17mgs, EQ bold undec 50mgs, Mast propionate 30mgs, NPP nadrolone phenylpropionate 35mgs, Primo enanthenate 17mgs)

Email us for a complete list: praetoriangear@protonmail.com

This is way too extreme for a female first cycle!

GearGoddess
03-10-2020, 05:04 PM
My wife is wanting to try a small cycle for her first time.
Stats;
5’7”
135lbs

She has a slim athletic build now but she wants to put on about 10lbs of muscle. Any recommendations? She’s not scared to pin.

Given she's after adding a fair amount of muscle. 2 great choices would be var or adrol. Both compounds, women respond very well to it.

I usually recommend starting with 10mg var a day split into 2 doses. She can run this for 8-12 weeks. Women can use up to 20mg a day without any undesirable sides.

As for anadrol route, start with 6.25mg for the first week or two, then 12.5mg split into 2 doses. She can work up to 25mg a day. Typically run for 6-8 weeks. Anadrol is quite female friendly and will give great results.

I strongly recommend sticking to one compound at a time. Mixing multiple compounds without knowing how each reacts with her is just asking for trouble!

custom
03-10-2020, 05:12 PM
That seems like a helluva a mix! What kind of pinning schedule would she need. Also, what kind of results would these yield?
.5 mg a week. My sister-in-law ran it at .75 divided in two pins a week and 10mgs of Var on top of it. With her cycle she cut some fat and had some nice lean muscle put on.

KageMorris10
03-10-2020, 06:31 PM
Given she's after adding a fair amount of muscle. 2 great choices would be var or adrol. Both compounds, women respond very well to it.

I usually recommend starting with 10mg var a day split into 2 doses. She can run this for 8-12 weeks. Women can use up to 20mg a day without any undesirable sides.

As for anadrol route, start with 6.25mg for the first week or two, then 12.5mg split into 2 doses. She can work up to 25mg a day. Typically run for 6-8 weeks. Anadrol is quite female friendly and will give great results.

I strongly recommend sticking to one compound at a time. Mixing multiple compounds without knowing how each reacts with her is just asking for trouble!

Which do you prefer? And what are the benefits and sides of each for women?

GarlicChicken
03-10-2020, 07:28 PM
If she is not scared to pin this is what we got. It was designed especially for women:

VRKLY 149mg (Deca nandrolone deconate 17mgs, EQ bold undec 50mgs, Mast propionate 30mgs, NPP nadrolone phenylpropionate 35mgs, Primo enanthenate 17mgs)

Email us for a complete list: praetoriangear@protonmail.com
This is way too extreme for a female first cycle!Yes. Nandrolone can be extremely virilizing to women. Nandrolone is a very bad idea, especially decanoate

GearGoddess
03-11-2020, 05:22 AM
Which do you prefer? And what are the benefits and sides of each for women?

So the preference is strictly based on what my goal is and how fast I want it.

VAR - I love var as that is one compound that is very potent and you get quality gains with virtually no undesirable sides. The vascularity is amazing even though some women can get some water retention with it initially. Var is great for longer term cycles (no less than 8 weeks IMO otherwise it's a waste as you stop just as you are feeling it all full speed, so to speak) and a great one as a first cycle so you get a feel of what AAS are all about. With var, she will also need a little patience as it is not a compound that you "feel" right away and takes a bit of time. On average, I say that by week 8 - you "see" and "feel" it. The gains from var are also slow and steady so it is actual quality that you add and not something you loose shortly after stopping the cycle.

ANADROL - if she's after something she will "feel" and "see" quicker, in some cases within a week, this is a great compound. Anadrol's strength is like no other (except for Sdrol's LOL) and it comes quick. A lot quicker than with var and a lot more intense. The pumps!... LOL... same as you feel them and it is awesome! The gains she will get from it is more size than she would with var and quicker. Adrol isn't as "dry" as Var is, so she can have a bit more water retention with it. Her nutrition and water intake will play a huge role here. It does subside as any other compound but her food needs to be on point as it does with anything. She won't get much of the vascularity as she would with var.

One take away from this, please PLEASE do NOT run multiple compounds at once with her. She needs to learn and assess how she responds to each on its own before experimenting with multiple compounds or even advanced BBing blends. Women are very sensitive and the point of no return can happen quick. I'll use the example of the blend that was suggested and it is a crazy suggestion IMO, especially for someone who never used AAS and is NOT in the bodybuilding scene, who only wants to have some superhuman powers and take her overall look and feel past the ordinary with more of a defined toned fitness body to look amazing in a bikini. Let me break this down for you, so you can see it from a woman's view: (you already know what these compounds do for you so amplify it 100x over and imagine what she will do with it)

Deca - long ester - typical female run is 12-16 weeks - this is a typical compound used in the BB world by women, quick mass added and insane sides if you do not pay super close attention to her body - irreversible sides if not caught right away.

EQ - long ester - typical female run is 12-16 weeks - most women get insane cravings with this, not necessarily hunger, just like PMS cravings - also stays in your system for a VERY long time as does Deca

Mast P - short ester - typical female run is 8-12 weeks - vascularity is amazing here but again, injecting with other long esters, think of all the compounding this will create with all the others in the mix, but wait, there are 2 more compounds on
top of this.

NPP - short ester - typical female run is 10-12 weeks - deca's little brother - a little overkill in this mix unless your woman's goal is to compete in BB

Primo E - long ester - typical female run is 16-20 weeks - my other favorite compound but again, mixed with all the others above - you will have a blend that does not compliment eachother - 5 compounds at once for a woman is a complete overkill especially if she's not into competing in BB. Even for figure this is overkill.

NOW, before the person who is selling this jumps my throat for disproving this, all these compounds have their place and time and are all fine for a woman to use. BUT not at once! ...and of course, ideally do not run multiple compounds till you know how you respond to each before you start mixing - this should be applied to anyone - male or female using AAS. All the compounds I mentioned here, I'm very familiar with and have ran myself on multiple occasions for different reasons. Those who know me, I'm not into BB but I have gotten to the figure stage only but bikini is my preferred look for the most part and using the compounds correctly will improve her overall feel and look - just ensure she is paying very close attention to her body and the changes happening so she can troubleshoot.

Hope this helps!

GearGoddess
03-11-2020, 05:51 AM
Which do you prefer? And what are the benefits and sides of each for women?


Sorry, I forgot to add some of the sides (good and not so great) she may experience between Var and Adrol

*increased sensitivity in her lady bits, increased sex drive (intensity and frequency) - var and adrol
*possible reduction in intensity and volume or even stop of her monthly aunt ruby visits - var and adrol
*possible requirement to shave more often as hair will grow faster, same with nails - var and adrol
*possible "odd sprouts" of hairs on her body/face - this is dose dependent! - dose too high, so lower dose or stop to eliminate - adrol
*quick weight and big increase in strength - adrol
*gradual/slow weight and mild strength increase - var
*increased irritability - var and adrol
*increased aggressiveness - adrol (more noticeable than var)
*very vascular, dry and hard look - var
*muscle fullness - var and adrol
*water retention - controlled by nutrition and water intake - adrol and some women var too
*stomach cramps - var - increase protein intake and water
*known to and proven to reduce belly fat - var
*both are amazing for body recomp

GarlicChicken
03-11-2020, 07:34 AM
So the preference is strictly based on what my goal is and how fast I want it.

VAR - I love var as that is one compound that is very potent and you get quality gains with virtually no undesirable sides. The vascularity is amazing even though some women can get some water retention with it initially. Var is great for longer term cycles (no less than 8 weeks IMO otherwise it's a waste as you stop just as you are feeling it all full speed, so to speak) and a great one as a first cycle so you get a feel of what AAS are all about. With var, she will also need a little patience as it is not a compound that you "feel" right away and takes a bit of time. On average, I say that by week 8 - you "see" and "feel" it. The gains from var are also slow and steady so it is actual quality that you add and not something you loose shortly after stopping the cycle.

ANADROL - if she's after something she will "feel" and "see" quicker, in some cases within a week, this is a great compound. Anadrol's strength is like no other (except for Sdrol's LOL) and it comes quick. A lot quicker than with var and a lot more intense. The pumps!... LOL... same as you feel them and it is awesome! The gains she will get from it is more size than she would with var and quicker. Adrol isn't as "dry" as Var is, so she can have a bit more water retention with it. Her nutrition and water intake will play a huge role here. It does subside as any other compound but her food needs to be on point as it does with anything. She won't get much of the vascularity as she would with var.

One take away from this, please PLEASE do NOT run multiple compounds at once with her. She needs to learn and assess how she responds to each on its own before experimenting with multiple compounds or even advanced BBing blends. Women are very sensitive and the point of no return can happen quick. I'll use the example of the blend that was suggested and it is a crazy suggestion IMO, especially for someone who never used AAS and is NOT in the bodybuilding scene, who only wants to have some superhuman powers and take her overall look and feel past the ordinary with more of a defined toned fitness body to look amazing in a bikini. Let me break this down for you, so you can see it from a woman's view: (you already know what these compounds do for you so amplify it 100x over and imagine what she will do with it)

Deca - long ester - typical female run is 12-16 weeks - this is a typical compound used in the BB world by women, quick mass added and insane sides if you do not pay super close attention to her body - irreversible sides if not caught right away.

EQ - long ester - typical female run is 12-16 weeks - most women get insane cravings with this, not necessarily hunger, just like PMS cravings - also stays in your system for a VERY long time as does Deca

Mast P - short ester - typical female run is 8-12 weeks - vascularity is amazing here but again, injecting with other long esters, think of all the compounding this will create with all the others in the mix, but wait, there are 2 more compounds on
top of this.

NPP - short ester - typical female run is 10-12 weeks - deca's little brother - a little overkill in this mix unless your woman's goal is to compete in BB

Primo E - long ester - typical female run is 16-20 weeks - my other favorite compound but again, mixed with all the others above - you will have a blend that does not compliment eachother - 5 compounds at once for a woman is a complete overkill especially if she's not into competing in BB. Even for figure this is overkill.

NOW, before the person who is selling this jumps my throat for disproving this, all these compounds have their place and time and are all fine for a woman to use. BUT not at once! ...and of course, ideally do not run multiple compounds till you know how you respond to each before you start mixing - this should be applied to anyone - male or female using AAS. All the compounds I mentioned here, I'm very familiar with and have ran myself on multiple occasions for different reasons. Those who know me, I'm not into BB but I have gotten to the figure stage only but bikini is my preferred look for the most part and using the compounds correctly will improve her overall feel and look - just ensure she is paying very close attention to her body and the changes happening so she can troubleshoot.

Hope this helps!Thank you GG! It's great to see you around here again, you are a priceless source of knowledge! I'm going to shoot you a PM today regarding some stuff my fiancee is wondering about regarding her HRT regimin and I have the feeling you are the person I need to talk to!

GearGoddess
03-11-2020, 08:00 AM
Thank you GG! It's great to see you around here again, you are a priceless source of knowledge! I'm going to shoot you a PM today regarding some stuff my fiancee is wondering about regarding her HRT regimin and I have the feeling you are the person I need to talk to!Thank you! I appreciate the kind words.

And OK I'll watch for your PM [emoji16] and try to help as best as I can

KageMorris10
03-11-2020, 08:13 AM
Sorry, I forgot to add some of the sides (good and not so great) she may experience between Var and Adrol

*increased sensitivity in her lady bits, increased sex drive (intensity and frequency) - var and adrol
*possible reduction in intensity and volume or even stop of her monthly aunt ruby visits - var and adrol
*possible requirement to shave more often as hair will grow faster, same with nails - var and adrol
*possible "odd sprouts" of hairs on her body/face - this is dose dependent! - dose too high, so lower dose or stop to eliminate - adrol
*quick weight and big increase in strength - adrol
*gradual/slow weight and mild strength increase - var
*increased irritability - var and adrol
*increased aggressiveness - adrol (more noticeable than var)
*very vascular, dry and hard look - var
*muscle fullness - var and adrol
*water retention - controlled by nutrition and water intake - adrol and some women var too
*stomach cramps - var - increase protein intake and water
*known to and proven to reduce belly fat - var
*both are amazing for body recomp

Holy smokes! Thank you so much for taking the time to type that out so throughly!

I think she’s looking more for Anadrol.

With that I always run milk thistle, omegas, and a few other supplements and vitamins.

Is that anything you think she she take with it for cycle support?

What’s your thoughts on injectable anadrol?

Xazevs
03-11-2020, 10:31 AM
Thank you GG - appreciate the info!

Very informative & will pass along to my GF (first hand experiences are either quite old or far/few in between).

GearGoddess
03-11-2020, 11:23 AM
Holy smokes! Thank you so much for taking the time to type that out so throughly!

I think she’s looking more for Anadrol.

With that I always run milk thistle, omegas, and a few other supplements and vitamins.

Is that anything you think she she take with it for cycle support?

What’s your thoughts on injectable anadrol?

No problem! I wanted to add more detail but figured if I missed something, you or someone else would ask. LOL

So Anadrol is a great choice for sure, she has the body frame to handle it and her muscles will thank her for sure. She can always do var next time to polish off her look :)

As for injectible version - honestly, why torture yourself with pins if you do not have to. Either way it needs to go through the liver and you really aren't gaining anything but extra few pin holes in your body! lol I think this 'injectible orals' is a fad and a stage till people realize it really doesn't do that much more good for you and why inject so much if you don't have to! Technically, if you want non estered stuff injected like orals - you'd need to pin at least twice a day evenly split. Stick to orally administered orals.

And other supplements, if you have an underlying health issue with your organs like your liver, then OK you can incorporate Milk Thistle but truthfully, if you have a healthy liver and not any underlying illnesses then this is pointless and waste of money. You're just pee-poo-ing it all out. :D Your liver and other organs are fully capable of detoxing themselves without any help. This has been proven in many medical journals and studies over the years.

For a female (and males) I feel that the most important supplements are, especially in our AAS superhuman world are: Omega 3 as most people, especially females do not get enough from their diet and supplementing is required. Other vitamins/minerals for her to incorporate would be D vitamin, B vitamins, Magnesium, Potassium along with any digestive enzymes and priobiotics. That should be sufficient. Unless she gets enough of those nutrients from her food but most people do not. With AAS and women, the most important is protein as it will eliminate any uncomfortable feeling side effects as possible cramps, stomach pain, headaches or achey muscles/lack of recovery. She has to be mindful that her body is in overdrive so her protein needs to be priority. That has always been my experience either with myself or any other individual I have worked with.

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Thank you GG - appreciate the info!

Very informative & will pass along to my GF (first hand experiences are either quite old or far/few in between).

you're very welcome! If she has any questions, feel free to send me a message and I will do my best to help!

Multislacking
03-11-2020, 11:31 AM
Your liver and other organs are fully capable of detoxing themselves without any help. This has been proven in many medical journals and studies over the years.



Are you suggesting that tudca, nac, choline/inositol have no place in liver support?

GearGoddess
03-11-2020, 11:45 AM
Are you suggesting that tudca, nac, choline/inositol have no place in liver support?

you can take it if you wish but unless you have an underlying condition, it really doesn't do all that much for you.
Eating a balanced diet filled with dark leafy greens will have more benefit than any other supplement out there when it comes to your overall and organ health.

GearGoddess
03-11-2020, 05:56 PM
Someone has brought my old post back up that I posted a couple years ago on another forum so I thought I should paste it here too for those wondering about women's options....


To give you more exact details and idea. Here is a list of just a couple of my faves (those who know can confirm that I have not lost any of my feminine qualities and I'm as girly as it gets. I'm a fitness/bikini/figure girl, not bodybuilder type)

Let's start with injectibles.

Primo enanthate/depot being my absolute favorite. Dosing being up to 50mg/week split into two per week. Some more advanced can handle 60-80mg a week. But again, start lower to assess tolerance.

Another injectible would be masteron propionate. Up to 50mg a week and shots split into one every 3 days. So aim at 15mg per shot.

Npp is great. Great for lubrication of joints but also great one for adding more size. My typical go to through winter months. I recommend up to 50mg a week split into shots every 3 days. Some can handle up to 100mg a week.

Injectible Winstrol. A little stingy bugger but works well for keeping dryness but quicker at adding size. Down side, inject daily so better off with oral winny with dose between 5mg-20mg a day split into 2 again as winny has a 9hr half life.

Var is a typical first timer. Plus oral so no shots. Up to 20mg a day, split into 2 doses, one morning and the second about 6-8 hrs later due to its half life.

Other great hardeners for women are superdrol. I love superdrol. 2.5mg a day is great for a woman. Can go up to 5mg a day. But again, all depends on her tolerance.

Anadrol is also awesome! Insane strength and good muscle building. I personally don't think we need to go over 25mg a day. Start low here too. It kicks in pretty fast.

And there are always other AAS (EQ, Deca, Test, Tbol, Dbol, etc) along with other compounds (T3, Albuterol, Proviron, Nolva, etc) which are very complimentary to AAS for women... Also, GH for its many benefits. Women can get away with anywhere between 0.5-2iu a day. Depending on goals and what you want from it.

KageMorris10
03-14-2020, 08:34 AM
Given she's after adding a fair amount of muscle. 2 great choices would be var or adrol. Both compounds, women respond very well to it.

I usually recommend starting with 10mg var a day split into 2 doses. She can run this for 8-12 weeks. Women can use up to 20mg a day without any undesirable sides.

As for anadrol route, start with 6.25mg for the first week or two, then 12.5mg split into 2 doses. She can work up to 25mg a day. Typically run for 6-8 weeks. Anadrol is quite female friendly and will give great results.

I strongly recommend sticking to one compound at a time. Mixing multiple compounds without knowing how each reacts with her is just asking for trouble!

So if we go the anadrol route, you suggest
12.5mg per day split 6.25mg doses 2x times daily
Then up to
25mg per day split in to 12.5 doses 2x times daily?

6-8 weeks total?

GarlicChicken
03-14-2020, 08:47 AM
So if we go the anadrol route, you suggest
12.5mg per day split 6.25mg doses 2x times daily
Then up to
25mg per day split in to 12.5 doses 2x times daily?

6-8 weeks total?Start with 6.25mg daily for the first week or two, then move up to 12.5mg daily. Then she can go up to 25mg if she wants/doesn't have unwanted sides

KageMorris10
03-14-2020, 10:34 AM
Thanks!

GearGoddess
03-24-2020, 06:39 AM
So if we go the anadrol route, you suggest
12.5mg per day split 6.25mg doses 2x times daily
Then up to
25mg per day split in to 12.5 doses 2x times daily?

6-8 weeks total?

Yes, if she's happy with 12.5 a day then stay there, if she feels she wants more then increase the dose. Adrol kicks in fast so she will know.

KageMorris10
03-26-2020, 05:59 AM
Yes, if she's happy with 12.5 a day then stay there, if she feels she wants more then increase the dose. Adrol kicks in fast so she will know.

Okay thank you! I think this virus has halted some things

Augustine5I
04-26-2020, 05:24 AM
Curious, when a female comes “off” her cycle, let’s say primo at 50 mg week split into two.... is there any PCT to concern about.

Not like women are trying to restore a natural testosterone level I don’t think??


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Augustine5I
04-26-2020, 05:30 AM
This is way too extreme for a female first cycle!

You sold me on primo for my fiancé.

Was thinking to do 25 mg twice a week.

Anything else to be concerned about? Sides? PCT

Supplements to take.

Trying to educate myself

Ty

Auggie


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Frankdoz
04-27-2020, 04:01 AM
I'll 2nd this. Will be amazing for her

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Does it help burn fat ,?


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Turkeybacon
04-27-2020, 04:10 AM
Does it help burn fat ,?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkShe definitely got nice lean muscle gains. Some veins popping. She was pretty good with her diet, training, and cardio.

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GearGoddess
04-28-2020, 05:14 AM
Curious, when a female comes “off” her cycle, let’s say primo at 50 mg week split into two.... is there any PCT to concern about.

Not like women are trying to restore a natural testosterone level I don’t think??


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThere's no formal PCT. I always advise for a female to stay off cycle for the same duration she was on. So basically ON CYCLE TIME = OFF CYCLE TIME

GearGoddess
04-28-2020, 05:17 AM
You sold me on primo for my fiancé.

Was thinking to do 25 mg twice a week.

Anything else to be concerned about? Sides? PCT

Supplements to take.

Trying to educate myself

Ty

Auggie


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkPrimo is a great compound. But before she jumps in, what's her stats, her food/training, etc. Is she wanting to inject on her first cycle?

GearGoddess
04-28-2020, 05:19 AM
Does it help burn fat ,?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkVar is known to reduce belly fat, BUT it is NOT a fat burner. Food will determine the success rate of fat burning and var shouldn't be used if that's the only goal. There are many other ways and compounds to help with that.

Augustine5I
04-28-2020, 07:15 AM
Primo is a great compound. But before she jumps in, what's her stats, her food/training, etc. Is she wanting to inject on her first cycle?

She is 52 years old. 5-5” tall. About 120 lbs.

Exercise cardio and training 3 to 4 days a week.

Eating is clean. Probably needs to eat a little more actually. But doesn’t eat fast food or snacks.

Okay with injections.

Was thinking more like 40 msg a week to start.

Wants to put on some lean muscle. Drop some body fat. Look better overall. Get more out of training.


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GearGoddess
04-28-2020, 11:05 AM
She is 52 years old. 5-5” tall. About 120 lbs.

Exercise cardio and training 3 to 4 days a week.

Eating is clean. Probably needs to eat a little more actually. But doesn’t eat fast food or snacks.

Okay with injections.

Was thinking more like 40 msg a week to start.

Wants to put on some lean muscle. Drop some body fat. Look better overall. Get more out of training.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWithout totally hijacking this thread. I would suggest starting with VAR prior to PRIMO. Faster in, faster out and a good first time experience. This way she would get a feel for what the dark side is like.

If she's set on primo, I'd start at 25mg a week split into 2 pins a week. Do that for 4 weeks, if no undesirable sides, bump up the dose to 35mg a week. I wouldn't go higher than 50mg a week. Continue for a 12 week run then off for 12 weeks before starting another.

Augustine5I
04-28-2020, 12:48 PM
Without totally hijacking this thread. I would suggest starting with VAR prior to PRIMO. Faster in, faster out and a good first time experience. This way she would get a feel for what the dark side is like.

If she's set on primo, I'd start at 25mg a week split into 2 pins a week. Do that for 4 weeks, if no undesirable sides, bump up the dose to 35mg a week. I wouldn't go higher than 50mg a week. Continue for a 12 week run then off for 12 weeks before starting another.

Okay. She is set for the primo. I think the idea of an oral and liver toxicity is leaning us both towards pinning.

Will keep to 12 weeks.

Then off for 12.

This is her first cycle. What can she reasonably expect.

Her bf percentage is around 12 to 14 percent. Doesn’t quite have abs but can see the outline.

She is pretty vascular already.

Ty very much btw


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GearGoddess
04-28-2020, 02:25 PM
Okay. She is set for the primo. I think the idea of an oral and liver toxicity is leaning us both towards pinning.

Will keep to 12 weeks.

Then off for 12.

This is her first cycle. What can she reasonably expect.

Her bf percentage is around 12 to 14 percent. Doesn’t quite have abs but can see the outline.

She is pretty vascular already.

Ty very much btw


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkUnless she has underlying conditions, female doses are so small that her liver won't be affected that much or at all, for the most part. Our livers are made to withstand much more. You have more chances alcohol causing damage than AAS.

As for what to expect, her sex drive will most likely be the first to be noticed, and her love button sensitivity, which is a great side!

She won't really feel the "feel good" aspect of the primo till a few weeks in, typically 6-8 weeks.
Otherwise, space out the pins evenly as possible... two per week is easiest. Monday and Thursday for example.

Augustine5I
05-01-2020, 04:52 PM
Unless she has underlying conditions, female doses are so small that her liver won't be affected that much or at all, for the most part. Our livers are made to withstand much more. You have more chances alcohol causing damage than AAS.

As for what to expect, her sex drive will most likely be the first to be noticed, and her love button sensitivity, which is a great side!

She won't really feel the "feel good" aspect of the primo till a few weeks in, typically 6-8 weeks.
Otherwise, space out the pins evenly as possible... two per week is easiest. Monday and Thursday for example.

Okay. Pins are going well. Ty

Can she expect some lean muscle in like 12 weeks?


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GearGoddess
05-01-2020, 06:18 PM
Okay. Pins are going well. Ty

Can she expect some lean muscle in like 12 weeks?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkShe should definitely start feeling it by week 8 and seeing changes by week 12. For sure.

GearGoddess
05-04-2020, 06:08 AM
Okay. Pins are going well. Ty

Can she expect some lean muscle in like 12 weeks?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkShe should absolutely see body composition in 12 weeks

rvc12533
05-12-2020, 04:27 PM
Mine did phen..and winny worked graet

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KageMorris10
05-20-2020, 03:57 AM
She should absolutely see body composition in 12 weeks

What’s your recommendation on very low dose HGH for women and what would the benefits be?

GearGoddess
05-20-2020, 04:29 AM
What’s your recommendation on very low dose HGH for women and what would the benefits be?Women can handle GH well but I always recommend tapering the dose rather than starting at higher amounts off the bat.

I run 1-2iu daily for the last several years (on and off) and I like this dose. I'm also in my 40's but started it at least 15 yrs ago. Most people tell me I can't be more than 27-30 at the absolute max based on my appearance. For benefits, I do see a difference in my skin, hair, nails, overall wellbeing. (My hair dresser and manicurist has also noticed how healthy and fast my hair/nails have been growing within a couple months of starting it) Sleep was impacted at first and when I changed dosing. Water retention at first too but it goes away. My recovery is much quicker as well. I say this because even when I'm off cycle and still on gh, it helps me recover faster.

1iu is great but keep in mind that benefits of gh take time and you don't "see" it until at least around 3-6 months for most. Gh is a long term plan. I don't see much benefit for a female to run short bursts of it.

Frankdoz
05-20-2020, 04:31 AM
Pics to prove [emoji23][emoji23]


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GearGoddess
05-20-2020, 04:43 AM
Pics to prove [emoji23][emoji23]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHaha I've posted lots of pics over the last couple years. My avatar is a great representation of me... to give you an idea.

Those who know me, can confirm.

chadmack282
08-03-2020, 09:13 PM
Sorry, I forgot to add some of the sides (good and not so great) she may experience between Var and Adrol

*increased sensitivity in her lady bits, increased sex drive (intensity and frequency) - var and adrol
*possible reduction in intensity and volume or even stop of her monthly aunt ruby visits - var and adrol
*possible requirement to shave more often as hair will grow faster, same with nails - var and adrol
*possible "odd sprouts" of hairs on her body/face - this is dose dependent! - dose too high, so lower dose or stop to eliminate - adrol
*quick weight and big increase in strength - adrol
*gradual/slow weight and mild strength increase - var
*increased irritability - var and adrol
*increased aggressiveness - adrol (more noticeable than var)
*very vascular, dry and hard look - var
*muscle fullness - var and adrol
*water retention - controlled by nutrition and water intake - adrol and some women var too
*stomach cramps - var - increase protein intake and water
*known to and proven to reduce belly fat - var
*both are amazing for body recomp

Hey GG would u mind recomending what the propper female doses in YOUR experience/opinion would b for the injectables compounds u listed ?
Doubt u see this but figured since myself & many other value & trust your experience i would give it a shot!?

GearGoddess
08-05-2020, 06:01 AM
Someone has brought my old post back up that I posted a couple years ago on another forum so I thought I should paste it here too for those wondering about women's options....


To give you more exact details and idea. Here is a list of just a couple of my faves (those who know can confirm that I have not lost any of my feminine qualities and I'm as girly as it gets. I'm a fitness/bikini/figure girl, not bodybuilder type)

Let's start with injectibles.

Primo enanthate/depot being my absolute favorite. Dosing being up to 50mg/week split into two per week. Some more advanced can handle 60-80mg a week. But again, start lower to assess tolerance.

Another injectible would be masteron propionate. Up to 50mg a week and shots split into one every 3 days. So aim at 15mg per shot.

Npp is great. Great for lubrication of joints but also great one for adding more size. My typical go to through winter months. I recommend up to 50mg a week split into shots every 3 days. Some can handle up to 100mg a week.

Injectible Winstrol. A little stingy bugger but works well for keeping dryness but quicker at adding size. Down side, inject daily so better off with oral winny with dose between 5mg-20mg a day split into 2 again as winny has a 9hr half life.

Var is a typical first timer. Plus oral so no shots. Up to 20mg a day, split into 2 doses, one morning and the second about 6-8 hrs later due to its half life.

Other great hardeners for women are superdrol. I love superdrol. 2.5mg a day is great for a woman. Can go up to 5mg a day. But again, all depends on her tolerance.

Anadrol is also awesome! Insane strength and good muscle building. I personally don't think we need to go over 25mg a day. Start low here too. It kicks in pretty fast.

And there are always other AAS (EQ, Deca, Test, Tbol, Dbol, etc) along with other compounds (T3, Albuterol, Proviron, Nolva, etc) which are very complimentary to AAS for women... Also, GH for its many benefits. Women can get away with anywhere between 0.5-2iu a day. Depending on goals and what you want from it.See this post above... I've listed some dosing protocols that I recommend.
Hey GG would u mind recomending what the propper female doses in YOUR experience/opinion would b for the injectables compounds u listed ?
Doubt u see this but figured since myself & many other value & trust your experience i would give it a shot!?And I always end up replying, just sometimes takes me a while. Oooopsy... I don't like leaving posts unanswered. [emoji16]

CSOReaper
08-09-2020, 02:41 PM
Anadrol for a woman? Interesting choice for sure. I personally think that would be a bit much for someone just wanting to try out a cycle. It may give her some real bad sides and she decides against it all together.

I would stick to anavar and small amounts of test as a trial run. Just my two cents. All depends on what she wants to achieve.

GarlicChicken
08-10-2020, 08:53 AM
Anadrol for a woman? Interesting choice for sure. I personally think that would be a bit much for someone just wanting to try out a cycle. It may give her some real bad sides and she decides against it all together.

I would stick to anavar and small amounts of test as a trial run. Just my two cents. All depends on what she wants to achieve.Winny is pretty good for women too, and I've heard a lot of good things about tbol for muscle gain. Anavar can cause a lot of water retention in some women

Frankdoz
08-10-2020, 09:22 AM
I feel like end of posts is going to be a big tren clit [emoji23]


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CSOReaper
08-10-2020, 05:10 PM
Winny is pretty good for women too, and I've heard a lot of good things about tbol for muscle gain. Anavar can cause a lot of water retention in some women

Agree Garlic,

Frankdoz, if the chick takes a lot of Abombs, she might have a swinging clit haha.

Adrenolin
08-10-2020, 07:39 PM
My wife likes 35mg Test with 50-75mg Mast or Primo. She's also had good runs with var and halodrol.

GarlicChicken
08-10-2020, 08:25 PM
My wife likes 35mg Test with 50-75mg Mast or Primo. She's also had good runs with var and halodrol.What's she get out of the mast? Long time ago my fiancee ran Proviron and the shit made her waist shrink like lipo. It was nuts. I've heard from several women that mast is similar but you don't hear much about it

chadmack282
08-12-2020, 04:26 PM
What's she get out of the mast? Long time ago my fiancee ran Proviron and the shit made her waist shrink like lipo. It was nuts. I've heard from several women that mast is similar but you don't hear much about it

how much & how often was she using provi?
i assume provi reduces estro in females?

GarlicChicken
08-12-2020, 04:49 PM
how much & how often was she using provi?
i assume provi reduces estro in females?It was 12.5mg daily, once per day. I think she did it for 4 weeks. Been a long time

Not sure about the estrogen thing, but I've heard other women say the same thing about results. I know it's used pretty commonly pre competition along with nolva to pull the last bits of fat off around the waist, thighs, and butt. You just don't hear many people talking about it

King of heartz
08-13-2020, 10:43 AM
This is way too extreme for a female first cycle!

I second this

chadmack282
08-13-2020, 03:26 PM
It was 12.5mg daily, once per day. I think she did it for 4 weeks. Been a long time

Not sure about the estrogen thing, but I've heard other women say the same thing about results. I know it's used pretty commonly pre competition along with nolva to pull the last bits of fat off around the waist, thighs, and butt. You just don't hear many people talking about it

i did some research after seeing your post & evidently its very common for female to use provi. & nolva for fat reduction pre-comp. like u said for what ever reason its not talked about. like its a topsecret so it must work pretty well. it was mentioned to taper off compounds to eliminate or reduce rebound effects