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Jswole220
12-26-2018, 04:47 PM
Alright boys here we go for this cycle compounds will be test cyp 750mg, EQ 750mg, tren Ace 500mg. Anadrol 50-100mg per dayweeks 1-4. Winstrol weeks 8-12 50-100mg per day. AI will be arimidex .05mg EOD and will adjust if need be. I also have caber on hand if needed and will be running proviron at 50mg per day and cialis 20mg pwo or eod. I also have cialis and proviron on hand if hu can not provide these items. I will be pulling bloods half way thru to see where Iím at as far as health goes and I need to make any adjustments. I will be front loading on the EQ the first two weeks since this will be a 12 week cycle and I donít want to be too greedy and make it 16 weeks and I also donít want to run tren that long. Iíve ran this exact cycle in the past and to date itís one of my favorite go to cycles when I really want to push things and grow as much as possible. I need to stock back up on supplements so after I have time this weekend I will lay out exactly everything I will be taking for these 12 weeks. Also I am currently taking hgh at 3.3 iu per day and will continue throughout the cycle. Stay tuned itís going to be a fun ride.

Jswole220
12-27-2018, 09:33 AM
Iím going to answer this question for everyone right here in the open. A couple people have asked me why I still want to run this cycle when I got disappointing test results from them on my test e. My answer is simple. There is no doubt in my mind that hu is a top notch lab and consistently puts out a good high quality product. I know people who have used there raws and peptides before and are extremely happy with the quality and results. Yes the test results from the test e were low compared to what I would have liked to see but I donít care what lab you use even pharma grade this happens from time to time. Iíve seen mas spec results on bayer test e 250 that tested at around 180mg and that is a big pharma company who does all the quality control we can imagine and it still happend. Many factors can come to play with stuff like this and the reality is more times than not what someone states mg wise on a vial will not be 100% accurate. Close but not spot on. My test results is literally the only negative thing Iíve seen from this lab and they have been producing raws and peptides as well as semi finished oils for a good while. The fact that one bad test result from them happens to me does not change my opinion on HU. Iíd be willing to bet Hu is doing everything in his power to get to the bottom of why I tested low and will do what he has to do to fix it. If I did not have 100% faith in this lab I simply wouldnít run this blast from them. Iím not a reseller but I have a personal stash enough to run five or six blast so itís not a desperate thing either. Iím doing it because Iím certain these bloods will be better than my last ones and everything they send me will be quality and Iíd like to help them prove to people that one bad test result does not define them as a lab. Once again thanks Hu, Alan, and Greek9 for this opportunity itís going to be a fun ride for sure! Mid way through the cycle I will pull bloods and post them here for everyone too see. Iím certainly not expecting them too but if they supply the hgh as well I will pull bloods on thoes as well.

Chrisptrt
12-27-2018, 09:52 AM
Is hu sponsoring this cycle ?

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Jswole220
12-27-2018, 10:50 AM
Yes. It was part of our deal myself and the other logger that we would get full cycles if we ran there test and posted bloods we would get a free cycle to log for them. Free or not if I didnít think it was quality gear I wouldnít waste my time running it especially with a compound like EQ where you really have to trust your source because it takes forever to kick in and one wouldnít know if it was quality or not until after a couple months

Chrisptrt
12-27-2018, 11:02 AM
Yes. It was part of our deal myself and the other logger that we would get full cycles if we ran there test and posted bloods we would get a free cycle to log for them. Free or not if I didnít think it was quality gear I wouldnít waste my time running it especially with a compound like EQ where you really have to trust your source because it takes forever to kick in and one wouldnít know if it was quality or not until after a couple monthsBest of luck and hope your cycle goes well brother

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Jswole220
12-27-2018, 12:25 PM
Best of luck and hope your cycle goes well brother

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Best of luck and hope your cycle goes well brother

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Jswole220
12-30-2018, 01:16 PM
I will update this thread throughout the process once I receive tracking, TD and so on. Just wanted to keep everyone up to date because Iíve had a couple people ask me if Iíve received/started yet.

Jswole220
12-30-2018, 05:23 PM
Iíve been notified this is what I will be receiving from HU..... 4 test cyp
4 EQ
6 tren ace
1 pack Anadrol
1 pack Winstrol
1 pack arimidex,

Jswole220
12-30-2018, 05:25 PM
Thatís as complete of a cycle as it gets. I will have letro and nolvadex on hand Incase estrogen gets out of hand. Cialis, proviron. And hgh are the other compounds that will be in the mix

Jswole220
12-31-2018, 03:16 PM
Supplements Iíll be taking for the blast: vitamins d,e,and c, COQ10, hawthorn berry extract, fish oil, nac, tudca, milk thistle, zinc, garden of life digestive enzyme and garden of life probiotic, creatinine mono 5g per day, and my protein whey protein isolate. Whey protein wonít be included as a meal and will be used first thing am and in between meals. Iím also considering throwing insulin into the mix since Iíve been experimenting with it a little bit and if do dextrose will be included in post workout shake. I also am going to use a local meal prep service for three to five meals a day. I will update the status of the meal prep after I figure out exactly how many and what meals Iíll be using. Still waiting on tracking Iíll update the thread then.

Jswole220
01-01-2019, 01:09 PM
I also bought some Karbolyn today and will use that instead of the dextros if I use insulin. I will use insulin for some workouts (Novolin R) however most of my workouts are later in the afternoon and in that case I wonít be using insulin. I may look into getting a rapid insulin which would be much better and safer to use later in the afternoon. Iím thinking about getting a pre workout to throw into the mix but havenít tried one I like in a while. Iím going to see if I can find mesomorph with dmaa online or if anyone else has any suggestions for an extremely potent pre workout Iím all ears. More than likely Iím going to throw in some GW50156 to help combat some of the negative sides from the tren and on cardio days Iím going to take ECA stack solely to help with breathing. Still waiting on tracking I know everything is closed today and would guess Iíll get it tomorrow hopefully

Jswole220
01-02-2019, 10:04 AM
Iím hoping to get tracking on this today. Not sure whatís going on havenít herd anything since Sunday but Iím assuming they were away due to New Yearís Eve and day

Jswole220
01-02-2019, 01:28 PM
This will be two or three of my meals a day depending on what I get from the meal prep service I spoke of. Itís Jambalaya made with 10oz of meat and 5oz of rice. It looks disgusting in the bag but I promise if youíve ever had Cajun food from a real Cajun youíd be begging for more haha. The only problem is most of itís not really bb food however some can be and this specific jambalaya is made with that in mind. Not much more calories than just chicken and rice and something I look forward to eating instead of force feeding.

Jswole220
01-02-2019, 01:32 PM
Greek got back to me and told me he sent the order in already and would reach out to hu to see what the status is. As soon as I find out Iíll post up. Currently Iím taking test p 100mg eod and proviron at 75mg per day. I cut back my cialis dose and take 10mg eod or 20e3d. The 20mg daily was actually killing my sex life and took away all sensitive in that area. I am so ready to get this cycle rolling!!!

Jswole220
01-03-2019, 06:19 AM
Hopefully tracking comes in today. Iím not sure exactly whatís going on with it. Iíve been dealing with Greek exclusively and havenít spoken to Alan about it personally but to my knowledge the order for the blast was sent over last Thursday which is when I sent the order to Greek. Hopefully I get some confirmation on this today and will post back what I hear.

bababoeyasf
01-03-2019, 10:31 AM
Hey man sweet looking blast! Iíll let you know if I see mine in the Mail Iíve been remodeling the house so been a little quiet for me on here

Jswole220
01-03-2019, 11:10 AM
Hey man sweet looking blast! Iíll let you know if I see mine in the Mail Iíve been remodeling the house so been a little quiet for me on here I figured something was up haha I thought maybe you were busy at work or something. Howís the remodeling going? I donít believe the packs have shipped yet unless they did and just didnít send us tracking this time?

Jswole220
01-03-2019, 02:23 PM
I received a package today containing only 4 EQ. Not sure exactly whatís going on the package it was shipped in was definitely large enough to fit the whole cycle in... hopefully I will get some answers on this today

Jswole220
01-03-2019, 02:31 PM
The EQ

Jswole220
01-03-2019, 02:49 PM
At least it was the EQ haha I was planning on front loading the EQ as I stated before so I just took 1ml of EQ and one ML of TP that I have been cruising on. I usually donít do this but I used two separate syringes to see how the HU gear would feel. I injected into my left glut and as expected it went in nice and smooth no stinging or burning.

Jswole220
01-03-2019, 03:03 PM
Iím almost positive the EQ was brewed in sunflower seed oil and not mig. I kept getting that distinct smell from sunflower oil and tasted a little bit that was let in the syringe and am almost positive itís sunflower seed oil maybe Alan or Greek can clarify on this

Jswole220
01-03-2019, 03:16 PM
I find this kinda odd that they said they brew in mig only which is clear. EQ has a yellow tint to it just like sunflower seed oil. Kinda strange... Iím positive itís sunflower oil without a doubt. The smell and taste is so strong and distinct

bababoeyasf
01-03-2019, 08:32 PM
I figured something was up haha I thought maybe you were busy at work or something. Howís the remodeling going? I donít believe the packs have shipped yet unless they did and just didnít send us tracking this time?

remodeling is going good but they are redoing my whole floors and I have to stay with my parents for a couple days because the dogs canít be on the hardwood stain lol my parents are great but even for 3 days I hate being out of my house

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 04:30 AM
Still havenít gotten an answers whatsoever. Itís been a couple days now since Iíve gotten a reply on anything so Iím completely in the dark here on exactly whatís going on. I still find it very strange only the EQ arrived and is brewed in sunflower oil to be honest that just seems really shady to me but who knows maybe weíll get some answers here soon. I considered getting a lab max test but decided not to since it wonít really tell us anything about the EQ.

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 04:33 AM
Honestly Iím at the points where if all my questions are not answered by today and Iím not satisfied with the answers Iím just not going to run the gear or do the log. Communication and customer service is everything in this industry and I canít say Iíve been satisfied with that.

Greek9
01-04-2019, 05:21 AM
Iím almost positive the EQ was brewed in sunflower seed oil and not mig. I kept getting that distinct smell from sunflower oil and tasted a little bit that was let in the syringe and am almost positive itís sunflower seed oil maybe Alan or Greek can clarify on this

ill ask Alan about this , i know he told me before Hupharma uses diff carrier oils depending on the compound .

Greek9
01-04-2019, 05:22 AM
Honestly Iím at the points where if all my questions are not answered by today and Iím not satisfied with the answers Iím just not going to run the gear or do the log. Communication and customer service is everything in this industry and I canít say Iíve been satisfied with that.

wow , really?

its been 2 days my man.

please check your PM box .

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 05:49 AM
wow , really?

its been 2 days my man.

please check your PM box . yes two days since Iíve herd from you which isnít a long time I agree but over a week since the order was sent with no answers from Alan. Pm sent

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 05:53 AM
I just want to be clear that Greek is doing what heís able for me and the lack of communication I was speaking of isnít his fault. Maybe Iím being a little impatient but the standard was set high the first go round every thing was spot on and it just hasnít been that way this time around.

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 12:44 PM
Received the rest..

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 12:46 PM
The oils

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 12:52 PM
The tren looks really light in color almost the same exact color as the test. Iíll be honest Iím a little skeptical about this blast now and still waiting to here back from Greek on the whole sunflower oil situation. I know the darkness of tren doesnít represent potency but Iíve personally never seen tren this light. Tren ace almost always gives me tren cough Iíd say 90% of the time. On rare occasion I donít get it and sometimes itís bad sometimes itís not. Iím going to give this thing a go and give my honest feedback on it and hope for the best. Iím about to inject 1ml of each oil and take 50mg of Anadrol then hit the gym.

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 01:12 PM
The tabs arenít scored like previous pictures Iíve seen and to make things worse on the Winstrol I can see the label from another lab Iíve used before with the same number they use for Winstrol....

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 01:15 PM
Also the same exact plastic bags said lab ships orals in on the inside

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 01:21 PM
If the gear is good I really donít care who it came from but if they are using other labs products and re mailers you would think they would at least be smart enough to take off the old stickers first. Iím going to give this blast a go and assess everything after 30days. If I am seeing progress I will continue the log and run it through if I donít I will just stop the log and move on. I said from the beginning I would be 100% honest with my review and I am a man of my word. If the gear is legit Iíll be the first to say my speculation was wrong and I was wrong. Iím not one to kiss ass or lie to get free gear.

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 01:30 PM
The tren ace all six vials were not properly sealed. I almost pulled the stopper and top off when opening the vial. All six vials I can spin the top around freely. Definitely not a good crimp and seal job. The test and eq are fine and do not rotate

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 02:09 PM
Iíve decided after taking 1ml of each compound and 50mg of Anadrol I am postponing this log and will not continue unless I get answers to all my questions that I am satisfied with. Too much just dosent add up and everything inside me is telling me not to do it. Just too many red flags. Like I said communication is key in this business and so is trust and as I right now I do not trust HU Pharma. Iíd like to thank Greek also for trying to help me out and doing what is in his power. Even tho I already did my part of the deal to get this gear i will gladly send it back to hu if he wants it because I wonít be using it more than likely unless hu has something to say about all this to make me feel like i should. Greek Iím sorry if I pissed you off bro but Iím not willing to be a lab rat and pin some stuff I donít trust. Side note the test and tren a are also in sunflower oil.

TripleOvertime
01-04-2019, 03:32 PM
Fuck it, I'll ask. Who do you suggest these orals really belong to, as far as the lab in which you believe the came from before they got in hupharmas hands?

Greek9
01-04-2019, 03:38 PM
sent you a Pm Jswolle ,

i dont have answers to all your questions and concerns, Alan is aware of this and he will get with you and hopefully give you some answers.

Jswole220
01-04-2019, 03:57 PM
Fuck it, I'll ask. Who do you suggest these orals really belong to, as far as the lab in which you believe the came from before they got in hupharmas hands? letís see if Alan has some answers for us. Itís definitely the same sticker, same number that lab uses, and same bag inside a hu bag. I wonít say it out in the open yet letís see what Alan says which I doubt he will say anything weíve been trying to get answers from him for over a week. Iíll give you a little hint tho said labs orals are trash they took 8 months to post some bs mass spec results and Iím still waiting to here back from that lab to get my orals tested. I threw the rest away after waiting for six months and several pm sent

Chrisptrt
01-04-2019, 04:31 PM
Damn this is all very interesting ...

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Jswole220
01-04-2019, 05:13 PM
If you look at the Winstrol pic I posted you can clearly see the other sticker underneath the hu label.

TripleOvertime
01-04-2019, 05:25 PM
I see a label underrneath but I dont recognize it as someone elses, simply unaware I suppose.

Chrisptrt
01-04-2019, 05:33 PM
If you look at the Winstrol pic I posted you can clearly see the other sticker underneath the hu label.It's very slight but I see it .

Way too many Inconsistencies imo
Which is no beuno

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TX_hempknight
01-04-2019, 06:16 PM
I see the label as well but can't make it out. Is it a sponsor on this forum?

Either way, you recognize the label and had an unfavorable experience. Pretty shady. I just recommended hup to milford for Bpc157 and tb500. Starting to wonder if that was a ill-advised. Thanks for bringing it out and letting us know the situation.

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Jswole220
01-04-2019, 07:15 PM
It's very slight but I see it .

Way too many Inconsistencies imo
Which is no beuno

Sent from my JSN-AL00 using Tapatalk I couldnít agree more bro. Labs that reflect half dosed gear at best, a complete different carrier oil than they state they use, tabs that are not scored and plan white unlike The sticky td pics posted, eq darker than tren the tren is almost the same exact color as the test I can only tell the tren is very slightly darker when holding it up into the light. The sticker left on the Winstrol, loose ass tops on all six of the tren ace. I didnít mention this before but I will now and post pics if yíall would like to see but 3 of the 4 EQ vials I can clearly tell have been peeled off and re placed. The communication from Alan has been nonexistent. We were supposed to get answers on the low numbers and never did and the other logger not getting his results is not an excuse. Iím pissed off that I was willing to put myself out there for hu pharma and feel completely disrespected in the whole situation. I feel bad for Greek9 because he genuinely seems like a good dude and is now also caught in the middle of this shit show. Hopefully Alan will come and give us all some answers but I doubt it. More than likely Iíll just be trashing the cycle and running the same cycle from another lab.

REHH
01-04-2019, 07:47 PM
What's going on up in here

GarlicChicken
01-04-2019, 10:39 PM
I see the label as well but can't make it out. Is it a sponsor on this forum?

Either way, you recognize the label and had an unfavorable experience. Pretty shady. I just recommended hup to milford for Bpc157 and tb500. Starting to wonder if that was a ill-advised. Thanks for bringing it out and letting us know the situation.

Sent from my HTC6545LVW using TapatalkThe BPC and TB I got were good. Finished products were just added recently...the business seems to have been built on raws and peptide hormones. Just my observation. But you know how it goes

hupharma
01-04-2019, 10:55 PM
The tren looks really light in color almost the same exact color as the test. Iíll be honest Iím a little skeptical about this blast now and still waiting to here back from Greek on the whole sunflower oil situation. I know the darkness of tren doesnít represent potency but Iíve personally never seen tren this light. Tren ace almost always gives me tren cough Iíd say 90% of the time. On rare occasion I donít get it and sometimes itís bad sometimes itís not. Iím going to give this thing a go and give my honest feedback on it and hope for the best. Iím about to inject 1ml of each oil and take 50mg of Anadrol then hit the gym.

Each batch the color varies and the same to raws. We sell only good quality and real products, all oils and tabs made of our raws. The tren light in color is normal, you could use it or send a sample to do analysis, i will cover the costs. We did a tren analysis a few weeks ago, here is the link for your reference. http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/showthread.php/86285-Hupharma-Tren-A

hupharma
01-04-2019, 11:01 PM
The tabs arenít scored like previous pictures Iíve seen and to make things worse on the Winstrol I can see the label from another lab Iíve used before with the same number they use for Winstrol....

Which lab you can see the label from? We have different brewers in the US, all finished oils and tabs are made of our raws. Only good quality and real products.

hupharma
01-04-2019, 11:03 PM
If the gear is good I really donít care who it came from but if they are using other labs products and re mailers you would think they would at least be smart enough to take off the old stickers first. Iím going to give this blast a go and assess everything after 30days. If I am seeing progress I will continue the log and run it through if I donít I will just stop the log and move on. I said from the beginning I would be 100% honest with my review and I am a man of my word. If the gear is legit Iíll be the first to say my speculation was wrong and I was wrong. Iím not one to kiss ass or lie to get free gear.

Tell me which labs product we are using. I don't mean rush, just want to figure it out.

hupharma
01-04-2019, 11:13 PM
The tren ace all six vials were not properly sealed. I almost pulled the stopper and top off when opening the vial. All six vials I can spin the top around freely. Definitely not a good crimp and seal job. The test and eq are fine and do not rotate

The aluminum ring should be tight, maybe several tops are a bit loose and rotate. Thank you for letting me know, we have got better caps, tops and stopper. Some customers will receive our new vials soon.

hupharma
01-04-2019, 11:49 PM
I couldnít agree more bro. Labs that reflect half dosed gear at best, a complete different carrier oil than they state they use, tabs that are not scored and plan white unlike The sticky td pics posted, eq darker than tren the tren is almost the same exact color as the test I can only tell the tren is very slightly darker when holding it up into the light. The sticker left on the Winstrol, loose ass tops on all six of the tren ace. I didnít mention this before but I will now and post pics if yíall would like to see but 3 of the 4 EQ vials I can clearly tell have been peeled off and re placed. The communication from Alan has been nonexistent. We were supposed to get answers on the low numbers and never did and the other logger not getting his results is not an excuse. Iím pissed off that I was willing to put myself out there for hu pharma and feel completely disrespected in the whole situation. I feel bad for Greek9 because he genuinely seems like a good dude and is now also caught in the middle of this shit show. Hopefully Alan will come and give us all some answers but I doubt it. More than likely Iíll just be trashing the cycle and running the same cycle from another lab.

Any question just email or wickr me directly, i will take care it as fast as i can. Again, we have different brewers in the US, all oils and tabs are made of our raws, good quality and real products only. For the vials you received, what we used is Grape seed oil, not sunflower oil. We use only mct oil or grape seed oil, i'm honest. Now most of our new tabs are white color just like stanozolol, i know it's different like previous but the quality and strength are good. Each batch raws the color varies, so the finished oils color varies a little bit. I understand maybe several tops are loose and rotate, but the aluminum ring should be very tight. Anyway we got new tops, it looks better, some customers will receive the news vials soon. We are sending test e and test cyp samples to do analysis and will post the results soon.

Many thanks to Greek9, he told me that this needs my attention and i hurried up viewed all the posts. Thank you for your support all the time. Any question please feel free to email or wickr me. Thanks

hupharma
01-04-2019, 11:53 PM
If you look at the Winstrol pic I posted you can clearly see the other sticker underneath the hu label.

This is how our winstrol label looks like, i don't understand why there is other sticker underneath the hu label, i will check into it.

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CompoundLifts31
01-05-2019, 12:39 AM
Fuck it, I'll ask. Who do you suggest these orals really belong to, as far as the lab in which you believe the came from before they got in hupharmas hands?Good question... LoL

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Jswole220
01-05-2019, 03:10 AM
Since you asked Iíll go ahead and say it. The sticker underneath the winny is the same sticker/number indicating Winstrol that h-as pharma uses all the way down to the same exact bag inside I Hu bag. How come you say you use mig and grape seed and I get sunflower? Why are your tabs you have stickied colored and double scored and I got plain white tabs? I understand your using re mailers/ local brewers but they obviously donít know what they are doing and are screwing up your business. Just because the raws you have them using are great quality does not mean they are properly brewing or using correct mesurments. Iíll get everything test if youíd like with the exception that we donít use jank since Iíve already seen him exposed for giving out fake lab results. A member on another board suspected he had fake GH he sent it to jank to be tested and received results saying it was perfect 10iu per vial like it was supposed to be. The next day the original package he sent was sitting on his porch saying unable to deliver return to sender. Of course jank said oh no it was a mix up we sent you someone else results. Iíve been searching to find the link but canít unfortunately. The tren being light in color ok maybe so even tho Iíve never seen tren this light especially when itís brewed in a yellow color oil. The eq which is from a different re mailer is darker than the tren. Too much just dosent add up here and you didnít answer all the questions. My lab results 2,400ng/ml on 1,050mg of test e per week?

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What's going on up in here read away and give us your expert opinion lol

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 03:16 AM
So hu you answered the easy questions. How about answering all of them if you can. Iíll tell you what I think is going on is your local brewers/ re mailers are robbing you blind and completely messing up your business. What steps do you take to assure the quality is there on what they brew? How do you know stuff is not being cut or they are brewing correctly and in a sanitary environment?

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 03:18 AM
Brotha Iím 100% certain itís sunflower oil and not grape seed. 110% positive.

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 03:19 AM
Labs that reflect half dosed gear at best, a complete different carrier oil than they state they use, tabs that are not scored and plan white unlike The sticky td pics posted, eq darker than tren the tren is almost the same exact color as the test I can only tell the tren is very slightly darker when holding it up into the light. The sticker left on the Winstrol, loose ass tops on all six of the tren ace. I didnít mention this before but I will now and post pics if yíall would like to see but 3 of the 4 EQ vials I can clearly tell have been peeled off and re placed.

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Answer these questions ^ please

Skip Foursome
01-05-2019, 05:49 AM
Raw EQ is like honey.

Not sure if you are on the right track as it does not sound outside the norm.

I have bought tren from same source, a really good source and everytime it was a different yellow color. Never the same. Sometimes really light and next time a little darker.

Never the same.

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 05:56 AM
Iím aware of the color of eq in raw liquid form and also the whole color of tren thing. Out of everything I stated thoes two are honestly the least of my concern. The other questions I feel are much more valid and I just thought the whole color thing was odd. For being sunflower seed oil it seems mighty thin to me and I know hu said itís grape seed oil but Iím 100% positive itís not. They both have a distinct smell and taste and Iíve been around long enough where I can tell the difference

hupharma
01-05-2019, 06:43 AM
So hu you answered the easy questions. How about answering all of them if you can. Iíll tell you what I think is going on is your local brewers/ re mailers are robbing you blind and completely messing up your business. What steps do you take to assure the quality is there on what they brew? How do you know stuff is not being cut or they are brewing correctly and in a sanitary environment?

I've been in the business more than 5 years, familiar with all trick and scam. The brewers are my friend and customer for years, we trust each other and have very good cooperation all the time. And we test our oils and tabs from time to time, you guys will see more test results not just Janoshik. I pay a lot of money to our brewers and remailers, most of them are not in the forum. They have no reasons to screw up my business.

hupharma
01-05-2019, 06:46 AM
Since you asked Iíll go ahead and say it. The sticker underneath the winny is the same sticker/number indicating Winstrol that h-as pharma uses all the way down to the same exact bag inside I Hu bag. How come you say you use mig and grape seed and I get sunflower? Why are your tabs you have stickied colored and double scored and I got plain white tabs? I understand your using re mailers/ local brewers but they obviously donít know what they are doing and are screwing up your business. Just because the raws you have them using are great quality does not mean they are properly brewing or using correct mesurments. Iíll get everything test if youíd like with the exception that we donít use jank since Iíve already seen him exposed for giving out fake lab results. A member on another board suspected he had fake GH he sent it to jank to be tested and received results saying it was perfect 10iu per vial like it was supposed to be. The next day the original package he sent was sitting on his porch saying unable to deliver return to sender. Of course jank said oh no it was a mix up we sent you someone else results. Iíve been searching to find the link but canít unfortunately. The tren being light in color ok maybe so even tho Iíve never seen tren this light especially when itís brewed in a yellow color oil. The eq which is from a different re mailer is darker than the tren. Too much just dosent add up here and you didnít answer all the questions. My lab results 2,400ng/ml on 1,050mg of test e per week?

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read away and give us your expert opinion lol

Good to hear you will get everything tested, just post the results here. We are 110% confident with the products.

REHH
01-05-2019, 06:48 AM
Sounds like your being a little hypercritical jswole.

Chrisptrt
01-05-2019, 07:03 AM
The aluminum ring should be tight, maybe several tops are a bit loose and rotate. Thank you for letting me know, we have got better caps, tops and stopper. Some customers will receive our new vials soon.Are you serious ? They should not be loose or rotate. This isn't acceptable . Especially if shipping.
Forgot about leaking at home,
God forbid it leaks while in transport...

Whoever you have running your us operation is not looking out for you and is doing a half ass job.. Yeah I'm going to say it.


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Chrisptrt
01-05-2019, 07:06 AM
Good to hear you will get everything tested, just post the results here. We are 110% confident with the products.You keep saying you are 110% confident but what does that mean when you have like three loggers get questionable labs all stating underdosed.

I can say im in good to women and they walk away upset do to how bad I preform ....
But yeah I'm 100% in how badass I am in bed.

If you want people to take your words seriously,
Prove it with actions and results.

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Skip Foursome
01-05-2019, 07:06 AM
Sounds like your being a little hypercritical jswole.

I'm thinking the same thing except hyper paranoid.

I get the other labs name under the HU label but the rest to me does not sound bad. If color is going to dictate if the gear is good you are in a world of hurt.

Chrisptrt
01-05-2019, 07:07 AM
I'm good in bed * my fault I'm half a sleep

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Chrisptrt
01-05-2019, 07:11 AM
I'm thinking the same thing except hyper paranoid.

I get the other labs name under the HU label but the rest to me does not sound bad. If color is going to dictate if the gear is good you are in a world of hurt.To me , color isn't the issue . It's everything else.
He claims nothing but the best but is shipping out loose tops ,
People coming back with poor labs

His us operation is doing a half ass job.

In life I feel if you can't do a good job at something .. than either don't do it at all or do something else.
If I owned a business and people were fucking with my operation, I'd fire them.

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hupharma
01-05-2019, 07:11 AM
You keep saying you are 110% confident but what does that mean when you have like three loggers get questionable labs all stating underdosed.

I can say im in good to women and they walk away upset do to how bad I preform ....
But yeah I'm 100% in how badass I am in bed.

If you want people to take your words seriously,
Prove it with actions and results.

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You right, we are sending test e and test c samples for analysis and will get the results soon.

Sherk
01-05-2019, 07:37 AM
The only issue I see here is the loose tops. I donít even see the bad labs being an issue since the OP was willing to accept and defend them 3 days ago. The tabs being a different color and not scored mean shit. Labs change things to cut cost, like buying colored powder. Iíve seen tren almost clear and Iíve seen tren so dark you couldnít see through it. It boils down to raw color and over heating. Iíve had eq so thick it barely passed through a 25g pin and Iíve had eq that was extremely thin. Again, that doesnít mean much.

Sherk
01-05-2019, 07:38 AM
Imo, replace the tren ace vials with vials that are better sealed and move forward with the log as promised. All issues will be solved at that point.

hupharma
01-05-2019, 07:39 AM
Are you serious ? They should not be loose or rotate. This isn't acceptable . Especially if shipping.
Forgot about leaking at home,
God forbid it leaks while in transport...

Whoever you have running your us operation is not looking out for you and is doing a half ass job.. Yeah I'm going to say it.

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The last batch is aluminum plastic tops, several vials plastic part are loose or rotate but the aluminum and stopper parts are very tight, none vial leaks. Here is the new batch of our test e and test c vials, just aluminum tops and well sealed.


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hupharma
01-05-2019, 07:41 AM
Imo, replace the tren ace vials with vials that are better sealed and move forward with the log as promised. All issues will be solved at that point.

Sounds good, we can do that.

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 08:10 AM
So to REHH skip and sherk yíall donít see an issue with the tops being so loose I can literally pull them off, a complete different carrier oil being used then stated, tabs that are different from what they advertise, labels being clearly pealed off and re placed on vials. No answers for bad labs and yes if you read my previous post I was willing to give them another shot but itís just too many red flags. I donít use sunflower seed oil because it gives me pip and after a week or so the pip is so bad I canít handle it.

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Good to hear you will get everything tested, just post the results here. We are 110% confident with the products. yes I will get everything tested if you cover the cost like you stated you would.

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 08:14 AM
Imo, replace the tren ace vials with vials that are better sealed and move forward with the log as promised. All issues will be solved at that point. the tren is not the only issue the product is brewed in a completely different oil that I do not use. I wouldnít say Iím allergic to it but sunflower oil gives me horrible pip and I do not use it. Not only that the winny tabs clearly have another label on them. Itís just too many red flags to do. I did my part already by getting bloods on the test which is all that was stated I had to do to get the cycle. Iím not going to inject a carrier oil that is going to knot me up after every injection.

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 08:15 AM
Iím glad some of yíall see my concerns here. I mean call me crazy but it literally just one red flag after another.

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 08:17 AM
I've been in the business more than 5 years, familiar with all trick and scam. The brewers are my friend and customer for years, we trust each other and have very good cooperation all the time. And we test our oils and tabs from time to time, you guys will see more test results not just Janoshik. I pay a lot of money to our brewers and remailers, most of them are not in the forum. They have no reasons to screw up my business. if these are your ďfriends ď I would think they would do a better job putting together your product and put more time in effort into it. They are doing a half ass job man and itís ruining your reputation imo.

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 08:19 AM
To me , color isn't the issue . It's everything else.
He claims nothing but the best but is shipping out loose tops ,
People coming back with poor labs

His us operation is doing a half ass job.

In life I feel if you can't do a good job at something .. than either don't do it at all or do something else.
If I owned a business and people were fucking with my operation, I'd fire them.

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Skip Foursome
01-05-2019, 08:21 AM
Well JFC just kill this thread I'm getting a headache.

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 08:27 AM
Sounds good, we can do that. honestly bro Iím good I donít care to have them replaced. It seems you have no control of what your brewers/ re mailers are doing if you want to pay to get the product tested cool but personally I donít care to be mailing aas past state lines so not sure how you suppose we should do this. I donít care to run the log anymore Iím not getting any answers to my questions. You said itís grape seed oil and itís clearly sunflower seed oil. Before anyone tries to say Iím just taking the gear and running with it I will gladly destroy it and post pictures before I Throw it away.

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 08:30 AM
Well JFC just kill this thread I'm getting a headache. I agree I will send any mod pictures of me destroying and disposing of the product so no one thinks Iím just taking the product and selling it or using it. Nothing is going to come of this thread anymore hu keeps giving generic answers to all the concerns I have. It seems like this wonít go anywhere from here

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 08:32 AM
I'm thinking the same thing except hyper paranoid.

I get the other labs name under the HU label but the rest to me does not sound bad. If color is going to dictate if the gear is good you are in a world of hurt. like I said before the color is the least of my concern I just found it interesting and worth mentioning.

Skip Foursome
01-05-2019, 08:32 AM
I agree I will send any mod pictures of me destroying and disposing of the product so no one thinks Iím just taking the product and selling it or using it. Nothing is going to come of this thread anymore hu keeps giving generic answers to all the concerns I have. It seems like this wonít go anywhere from here

Dont worry about it, just kill this thread. Nothing good going to come out of it. I don't want to come off as a dick, well, maybe I do :) but the whole flavor of this log is toxic.

Jswole220
01-05-2019, 08:41 AM
Dont worry about it, just kill this thread. Nothing good going to come out of it. I don't want to come off as a dick, well, maybe I do :) but the whole flavor of this log is toxic. I agree man honestly itís just a shitty situation for everyone involved.

Sherk
01-05-2019, 08:58 AM
I did agree with the tops. But everything else is minuscule. But either way, I couldnít care less what happens here. I was just voicing my opinion since at the beginning of this thread you didnít care about the poor labs then brought it up multiple times in a couple threads. That there would of told me enough to stop wasting my time with a sponsor.

Just an FYI Jswole220, more sources than you think are only resellers. They hire someone to make their gear and put their label on it. Itís not surprising that you saw another label underneath. Mistakes like that are bound to happen. If you remember, I member here just got pinched a few moths ago. He was making gear for several sources on and off this board. Just keep that in mind.

Greek9
01-05-2019, 09:07 AM
You keep saying you are 110% confident but what does that mean when you have like three loggers get questionable labs all stating underdosed.

I can say im in good to women and they walk away upset do to how bad I preform ....
But yeah I'm 100% in how badass I am in bed.

If you want people to take your words seriously,
Prove it with actions and results.

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3 loggers with bad results ?

its just jswolle w low results. who else?

am i missing something ? please do tell

Greek9
01-05-2019, 09:10 AM
To me , color isn't the issue . It's everything else.
He claims nothing but the best but is shipping out loose tops ,
People coming back with poor labs

His us operation is doing a half ass job.

In life I feel if you can't do a good job at something .. than either don't do it at all or do something else.
If I owned a business and people were fucking with my operation, I'd fire them.

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dont you brew untested raws for your friends?

you* sell gear on the side without even getting labs to see if its goos or not. So please stop trying to kick a man when hes down and worry about your own integrity

Greek9
01-05-2019, 09:13 AM
The only issue I see here is the loose tops. I donít even see the bad labs being an issue since the OP was willing to accept and defend them 3 days ago. The tabs being a different color and not scored mean shit. Labs change things to cut cost, like buying colored powder. Iíve seen tren almost clear and Iíve seen tren so dark you couldnít see through it. It boils down to raw color and over heating. Iíve had eq so thick it barely passed through a 25g pin and Iíve had eq that was extremely thin. Again, that doesnít mean much.

now this guy has experince on both.sides , as customer and as a Rep .

thanks for being neutral brother

Greek9
01-05-2019, 09:16 AM
The last batch is aluminum plastic tops, several vials plastic part are loose or rotate but the aluminum and stopper parts are very tight, none vial leaks. Here is the new batch of our test e and test c vials, just aluminum tops and well sealed.


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those vials look great Alan

Chrisptrt
01-05-2019, 09:16 AM
dont you brew untested raws for your friends?

i sell gear on the side without even getting labs to see if its goos or not. So please stop trying to kick a man when hes down and worry about your own integrityFirst off , be an adult and take those type of comments to a private convo .
Second .. that's not what I do so think before you say something. It's not very hard

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frank zazz
01-05-2019, 09:18 AM
3 loggers with bad results ?

its just jswolle w low results. who else?

am i missing something ? please do tell
Mine were 3450 on 750 a week yeah they could be higher but Iím not calling those bunk by any means. I donít remember seeing any other bloods

Greek9
01-05-2019, 09:22 AM
Mine were 3450 on 750 a week yeah they could be higher but Iím not calling those bunk by any means. I donít remember seeing any other bloods

thank you .

we have a logger over at BOP with good results on his test C iirc

Greek9
01-05-2019, 09:25 AM
First off , be an adult and take those type of comments to a private convo .
Second .. that's not what I do so think before you say something. It's not very hard

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you are just a troll at this point.

keep trying to be cool somewhere else

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closed,

PM me or email/ wickr Alan if theres any questions.

REHH
01-05-2019, 09:31 AM
I did agree with the tops. But everything else is minuscule. But either way, I couldnít care less what happens here. I was just voicing my opinion since at the beginning of this thread you didnít care about the poor labs then brought it up multiple times in a couple threads. That there would of told me enough to stop wasting my time with a sponsor.

Just an FYI Jswole220, more sources than you think are only resellers. They hire someone to make their gear and put their label on it. Itís not surprising that you saw another label underneath. Mistakes like that are bound to happen. If you remember, I member here just got pinched a few moths ago. He was making gear for several sources on and off this board. Just keep that in mind.

I agree.

I've seen many caps that would rotate, that's not a big deal. If they are very loose where they will come off then yes. Those caps are super thin, you can rip them off with your fingers if you try. Carrier oil is often switched out. Color of tren changes batch to batch. Labels are pulled off and replaced if crooked or wrinkled or peeling. Most brewers brew for more than one lab.

REHH
01-05-2019, 09:33 AM
you are just a troll at this point.

keep trying to be cool somewhere else

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closed,

PM me or email/ wickr Alan if theres any questions.

I was just gonna lock the thread but see you just did it while i was typing.