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Jswole220
12-17-2018, 11:31 AM
I was taking 300mg of test e eod for five weeks. Last shot was on a Saturday bloods were drawn on a Tuesday morning at 8am fasted. I had a full night of sleep the night before and was well rested. I was also taking 20mg of cialis and 3-6iu of hgh. For the first three weeks I was taking hcg and dropped it out two weeks before bloods. Daily supplements were: CO Q10, vitamin E,D,B,and C. Cinnamon extract, milk thistle, nac, iron, caffeine 200mg daily, fish oil, a basic liver support from Wal Mart. Hawthorn berries extract. I injected every other night around the same time anywhere from 5-9 PM. Before this I was cruising on 100mg of test p eod and 100mg of mast p eod both from another source. A few weeks before starting I dropped the mast p.

frank zazz
12-17-2018, 01:44 PM
Not sure if these are good numbers or not with that pin schedule. I am waiting on blood results to come back from hupharma running 750 a week

Jswole220
12-17-2018, 02:16 PM
I was expecting a bit higher. I was anticipating around 3,000 but Iíve also never ran bloods on this high of a dose. All and all Iím satisfied with the product.

CompoundLifts31
12-17-2018, 02:19 PM
I was taking 300mg of test e eod for five weeks. Last shot was on a Saturday bloods were drawn on a Tuesday morning at 8am fasted. I had a full night of sleep the night before and was well rested. I was also taking 20mg of cialis and 3-6iu of hgh. For the first three weeks I was taking hcg and dropped it out two weeks before bloods. Daily supplements were: CO Q10, vitamin E,D,B,and C. Cinnamon extract, milk thistle, nac, iron, caffeine 200mg daily, fish oil, a basic liver support from Wal Mart. Hawthorn berries extract. I injected every other night around the same time anywhere from 5-9 PM. Before this I was cruising on 100mg of test p eod and 100mg of mast p eod both from another source. A few weeks before starting I dropped the mast p.So 1050mgs pw total? 300mgs eod?
Is that 2,xxx or 3,xxx? It's hard to read!! Either way, seems low to me man. Thanks for doing blood work either way.

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Jswole220
12-17-2018, 02:28 PM
So 1050mgs pw total? 300mgs eod?
Is that 2,xxx or 3,xxx? It's hard to read!! Either way, seems low to me man. Thanks for doing blood work either way.

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Jswole220
12-17-2018, 02:43 PM
Also just wanted to State I am not one of thoes guys who normally has low bloods like this. I usually am on the lower end of what would be considered good or acceptable. I have gotten bloods in the past identical to this with half the dose.

frank zazz
12-17-2018, 02:45 PM
What were the levels at with half the he dose?

Greek9
12-17-2018, 02:53 PM
Total test looks low to me, lets see our others logger numbers...

Jswole220
12-17-2018, 03:09 PM
What were the levels at with half the he dose?
Somewhere in 2,300. Like I said Iíve never ran bloods on this high of a dose would it be possible that at a higher dose this could be normal for me? Iím kinda confused tbh I would think it should be higher and couldnít imagine any source sending someone something to log unless they knew it was spot on.

bababoeyasf
12-17-2018, 03:38 PM
Still waiting on mine im the other logger for anyone who doesn't know. Didnt a guy on BOP habe a good result with the test e? Maybe this is a different batch

frank zazz
12-17-2018, 03:56 PM
Total test looks low to me, lets see our others logger numbers...
I pulled bloods Wednesday and will post when they come back

Lincoln30TT
12-18-2018, 01:39 PM
Bloods should be draw 48 hours +/- 12 hours after last pin. Regardless, these numbers are low. 1050mg pw with estrogen in check should produce level 5,000 and up. Levels should be 5x - 7x per mg. You're at 2.29x.

Jswole220
12-18-2018, 01:51 PM
Bloods should be draw 48 hours +/- 12 hours after last pin. Regardless, these numbers are low. 1050mg pw with estrogen in check should produce level 5,000 and up. Levels should be 5x - 7x per mg. You're at 2.29x. so I drew mine at 60 hours. Should affect the results that much. I always do bloods 48-72 hrs after last injection

frank zazz
12-18-2018, 02:18 PM
My bloods came back at 3452 on 750 test cyp a week split in two pins bloods right around 49 hours . I was also pinning 900 eq every week.

Greek9
12-18-2018, 02:23 PM
My bloods came back at 3452 on 750 test cyp a week split in two pins bloods right around 49 hours . I was also pinning 900 eq every week.

thats more like it , thanks for the info Sir.

do you happen to remember what muscle did you pin before bloodwork?

bababoeyasf
12-18-2018, 02:40 PM
How am i the only one waiting on results still

frank zazz
12-18-2018, 03:05 PM
thats more like it , thanks for the info Sir.

do you happen to remember what muscle did you pin before bloodwork?
It was a quad shot not my favorite place

Jswole220
12-18-2018, 03:28 PM
Thoes are much better frank. Good for you bro and good on you for doing bloods.

Jswole220
12-18-2018, 03:31 PM
Maybee this is a crazy thought maybe not but I know Test e has a really low melting point. I run every shot under hot water for about 1.5 min before injection. If yíall think this could have something to do with it I will Buy a thermometer and see how hot the water comes out of my sink. The water is definitely too hot to touch and would burn the shit out of me if I held my hand under it. Curious to see what anybody else thinks about this

Skip Foursome
12-18-2018, 03:31 PM
Those numbers are low no matter how you slice it.

Is 2400ng/dl good for blasting?

Yes

But are those good numbers for running that mg per week?

No

lifter916
12-18-2018, 04:17 PM
Maybee this is a crazy thought maybe not but I know Test e has a really low melting point. I run every shot under hot water for about 1.5 min before injection. If yíall think this could have something to do with it I will Buy a thermometer and see how hot the water comes out of my sink. The water is definitely too hot to touch and would burn the shit out of me if I held my hand under it. Curious to see what anybody else thinks about this

Interesting - im no chemist but eager to find out why your #'s were so low on over a gram/wk - the hot water theory is boggling my brain lol

GarlicChicken
12-18-2018, 04:30 PM
Maybee this is a crazy thought maybe not but I know Test e has a really low melting point. I run every shot under hot water for about 1.5 min before injection. If yíall think this could have something to do with it I will Buy a thermometer and see how hot the water comes out of my sink. The water is definitely too hot to touch and would burn the shit out of me if I held my hand under it. Curious to see what anybody else thinks about thisNo, won't make any difference. It's not over 130į almost guaranteed unless your water heater is turned way up. Still wouldn't have any affect on serum testosterone levels.

Jswole220
12-18-2018, 05:23 PM
I also travel a lot for work and when staying in hotels use a blow drier but I thought it was closer to 100 after looking at it and not 130

Jswole220
12-18-2018, 05:25 PM
Those numbers are low no matter how you slice it.

Is 2400ng/dl good for blasting?

Yes

But are those good numbers for running that mg per week?

No I agree skip but was just really thinking about it and like I said before I couldnít see hu sending me gear to test for him and post bloods without knowing it was spot on. If he was just trying to see for himself I couldnít imagine him asking me to post results regardless

Greek9
12-18-2018, 05:37 PM
yes , numbers ARE low.

Alan is aware of these results and we are waiting on results from our Logger # 2 .

Frankz numbers are good along with our other Logger over at BOP.

lifter916
12-18-2018, 05:45 PM
Thnx Frank for doing bloods..numbers for him are solid..not trying to bash u hu...just curious about my boys...

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Skip Foursome
12-18-2018, 05:49 PM
Franks numbers are low.

I'm done.

REHH
12-18-2018, 06:17 PM
Maybee this is a crazy thought maybe not but I know Test e has a really low melting point. I run every shot under hot water for about 1.5 min before injection. If yíall think this could have something to do with it I will Buy a thermometer and see how hot the water comes out of my sink. The water is definitely too hot to touch and would burn the shit out of me if I held my hand under it. Curious to see what anybody else thinks about this

Not a factor

I've seen the same batch of test e vary well over a 1,000ng on 500 a week. Need a few results from different ppl before drawing conclusions

Chrisptrt
12-18-2018, 06:26 PM
Also just wanted to State I am not one of thoes guys who normally has low bloods like this. I usually am on the lower end of what would be considered good or acceptable. I have gotten bloods in the past identical to this with half the dose.Dude for 1000 mg a week , that's low as fuck .
I thought that was your level from 300mg a week I was about to say that's about right ..

Not going to lie , that's concerning

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Chrisptrt
12-18-2018, 06:28 PM
so I drew mine at 60 hours. Should affect the results that much. I always do bloods 48-72 hrs after last injectionI always take bloods the morning before my second pin of the week which is I would say 3 days after first pin ( 72 hours ) and have accurate levels

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Jswole220
12-18-2018, 06:33 PM
Not a factor

I've seen the same batch of test e vary well over a 1,000ng on 500 a week. Need a few results from different ppl before drawing conclusions frank took cyp I took test e. With properly dosed gear I must say Iíve never seen numbers this low on a gram a week

Jswole220
12-18-2018, 06:34 PM
Franks numbers are low.

I'm done. I donít think franks numbers are that bad at all

REHH
12-18-2018, 06:36 PM
frank took cyp I took test e. With properly dosed gear I must say Iíve never seen numbers this low on a gram a week

Yes that's very low, an unacceptable result, but I would still want to see results from a few others. If Frank took C then that has no value for this situation.

TX_hempknight
12-18-2018, 07:53 PM
I wouldn't think 130 degrees would degrade it that much. Dont they brew at temps above that?

Thanks J and frank for posting your bloodwork.

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bigflex77
12-19-2018, 08:05 AM
I donít believe the higher the dosage will mean a higher test score necessarily. High test scores usually come
from a moderate dosage .
cyp and tri tren 2x a week and looking great !

GarlicChicken
12-19-2018, 08:18 AM
I donít believe the higher the dosage will mean a higher test score necessarily. High test scores usually come
from a moderate dosage .
cyp and tri tren 2x a week and looking great !Regardless of what you look like, yes, a higher dosage will 100% of the time give a higher serum testosterone level, in a dose dependant relationship. Period. If you could test for serum trenbolone levels, it would be exactly the same way.

Jswole220
12-19-2018, 09:59 AM
I donít believe the higher the dosage will mean a higher test score necessarily. High test scores usually come
from a moderate dosage .
cyp and tri tren 2x a week and looking great ! sorry bro but thatís just not accurate

Lincoln30TT
12-19-2018, 10:17 AM
My bloods came back at 3452 on 750 test cyp a week split in two pins bloods right around 49 hours . I was also pinning 900 eq every week.These numbers are better, but still a bit low. Can you post your bloodwork? What was your E2?

If all other hormones are in check, I would like to see numbers 4000 and up.

frank zazz
12-19-2018, 12:17 PM
These numbers are better, but still a bit low. Can you post your bloodwork? What was your E2?

If all other hormones are in check, I would like to see numbers 4000 and up.
I will post them in a new thread

Greek9
12-19-2018, 05:07 PM
sorry bro but thatís just not accurate

i agree.


Jswole , lets wait for logger#2s labs and then we can decide how to handle this .

btw , this is the same batch as our BOP logger and he had great results .

Greek9
12-19-2018, 05:08 PM
I will post them in a new thread

thanks again for posting your results , if theres anything you need from us , lmk and ill talk to Alan about it.

bababoeyasf
12-19-2018, 05:26 PM
This is completely off subject but i am curious if anyone can relate to this feeling i have sometimes have. I think im done wanting to be big. I just want a nice tone slimmer body to look good in suits and have nice abs or whatever. Then bigflex post a pic like that and im like damn I'd love to look like that lol

Chrisptrt
12-19-2018, 06:05 PM
This is completely off subject but i am curious if anyone can relate to this feeling i have sometimes have. I think im done wanting to be big. I just want a nice tone slimmer body to look good in suits and have nice abs or whatever. Then bigflex post a pic like that and im like damn I'd love to look like that lolEvery damn day of my life bro .. I'm back to cutting down and I literally did the same thing after seeing big's pic and I'm ready to stock up on sweet potatoes and rice haha.

Completely understand the feeling brother.

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Jswole220
12-19-2018, 07:57 PM
This is completely off subject but i am curious if anyone can relate to this feeling i have sometimes have. I think im done wanting to be big. I just want a nice tone slimmer body to look good in suits and have nice abs or whatever. Then bigflex post a pic like that and im like damn I'd love to look like that lol I get that feeling from time to time and Iíll cut for about a week and then abort mission and go full rich piana the next few weeks haha

Jswole220
12-19-2018, 08:01 PM
i agree.


Jswole , lets wait for logger#2s labs and then we can decide how to handle this .

btw , this is the same batch as our BOP logger and he had great results . Iím with you on that Greek. Iíd be lying if I said I still donít think the test was properly dosed. Iíve been wrecking my brain thinking of any way I could have mistakenly skewed the results or thinking maybe at higher doses I just donít absorb as much or do well with it. I might call private Medlabs myself tomorrow complaining if the other logger doesnít get his results back lol jk but damn they should be here now.

bigflex77
12-19-2018, 08:49 PM
Lol thanks bro but yeah sometimes I just say screw it and get fat lol then sometimes i actually go hard

bigflex77
12-19-2018, 08:54 PM
I once pinned test c 250 just a litttle over 24hours before my bloods and this was the first time pinning in a about 2 months and I tested at 2700. I guess we can just wait for more results . Iím just here being nosey tho

bababoeyasf
12-19-2018, 11:22 PM
If you look this is by far my longest wait time

leftkz
12-21-2018, 04:56 PM
If you look this is by far my longest wait time

any update on your bloods?

bababoeyasf
12-21-2018, 07:07 PM
Still waiting. They said 10 business days tops which really fucking blows because that means no weekends and they are closed monday and Tuesday

bababoeyasf
12-21-2018, 07:12 PM
Today was business day number 8

leftkz
12-21-2018, 08:56 PM
Still waiting. They said 10 business days tops which really fucking blows because that means no weekends and they are closed monday and Tuesday

Damn that sucks!!

I'm a couple of weeks out from doing bloods for them too.

Hoping my numbers are good. I definitely feel good so that's a plus.