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bigmoe
01-29-2018, 12:33 PM
Does anybody have any recommendations for a movement that can really help define the quad. I have terrible knees and cant really do heavy squats but am really curious what I can do to get a nice sweep going.

TouaregV8
01-29-2018, 12:55 PM
Whatever movement that you are able to perform without any pain.

Tall Deck
01-29-2018, 12:59 PM
You mentioned "heavy" squats. What about higher rep/lighter weight squats? And let me be clear that I'm speaking of old fashioned barbell squats. I've had three knee surgeries,( one due to a car accident) and I perform barbell squats and leg extensions, and both exercises have played a big part in my total knee rehabilitation. But I stay away from hack squats and smith machine squats. And I also make sure to put equal effort into building the hamstrings with leg curls, as well as the calves with standing calf raises. The knee joint needs to be equally supported on all sides by these other muscle groups. otherwise, you can create an imbalance. In addition to this, I would suggest trying weighted lunges, (as long as you already have a decent degree of quad development built up from these other exercises).

eduwhitetrash
01-29-2018, 01:10 PM
Try them all and at different rep ranges, sets etc till you find what works.

Montego1
01-29-2018, 01:17 PM
Foot placement and the way I let my knees tavel made the biggest difference.

I started turning my toes out very slightly and letting my knees travel out instead of keeping them straighter. This sounds counterintuitive but it's a more natural ROM. This will also place more tension in the outer part of the quad aka sweep.

Fredrivers
01-29-2018, 01:50 PM
Leg extension different ways of doing it pyramid it but those blow up your quad if you just wanna skip the big movements like squat


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malfeasance
01-29-2018, 02:13 PM
Hack squats very deep with toes out some helped my knees . . . going deep reduced the weight and made a big difference in the way that my knees felt. Sounds counterintuitive that going deep would help knees, but it did.

juiceddawg
01-29-2018, 02:23 PM
I got to have a knee replacement soon and I found doing high rep leg ext. then doing light weight high rep zercher squats helped me with sweep and didn't cause knee pain.Also like tall Deck said do some hamstring exercises also.

malfeasance
01-29-2018, 02:29 PM
I avoid leg extensions altogether now, and my knees have thanked me for it. I used to love them, but it got where they were painful.

friendofzeus
01-29-2018, 02:36 PM
Hack squats very deep with toes out some helped my knees . . . going deep reduced the weight and made a big difference in the way that my knees felt. Sounds counterintuitive that going deep would help knees, but it did.


sounds counter-intuitive but for those that really understand the mechanics of the knee it's not at all.

malfeasance
01-29-2018, 02:44 PM
I don't understand the mechanics of the knee, but I do know it worked.

Fredrivers
01-29-2018, 02:52 PM
I had a buddy who would go really light on leg extension and he had a huge quads never squared a day in a his life and stuck to a couple of machines. I had a operation on my knee to flip a chunk of it to stunt my growth at first it was painful after a while it adjusted. Avoiding knee pain is really hard have to tried using stuff like compression pants or brace?


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malfeasance
01-29-2018, 03:04 PM
I had a operation on my knee to flip a chunk of it to stunt my growth
Whoa! What?!? :hmm:

Skip Foursome
01-29-2018, 03:11 PM
Does anybody have any recommendations for a movement that can really help define the quad. I have terrible knees and cant really do heavy squats but am really curious what I can do to get a nice sweep going.

There is not one that I know of.

I would lay off the leg exercises.

Fredrivers
01-29-2018, 03:11 PM
Whoa! What?!? :hmm:

Lmao yeah they did that when I was 14 but I started training legs hard at 17 at first leg extensions hurt but it passed I use a knee brace for a couple of weeks then it passed my body adjusted


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Hard Puff
01-29-2018, 04:28 PM
Leg curls and extensions with the toes pointed up, out or in will help isolate the different muscles so you can get a more effective workout with less weight.