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bomb_r2

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I see many things on Facebook that show a soldier missing a limb or two saying this man gave his all for his country protecting your freedoms ( soldier doesn’t appear to be over there 40 ) . I mean no disrespect but I have a real question, how did my freedoms end up in the Middle East ? I respect the military, but honestly I feel since the civil war most wars are pointless and for political points or monetary gain . So how and when did my freedoms end up in the Middle East?
 
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Youarenotfree/about/?ref=page_internal





[h=1]Stop thanking me for my service, the troops are not defending your freedoms


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@Youarenotfree



I am a USMC grunt and Iraq vet. The war is bullshit on every level. The US has no business over there. We are fighting a war for political s, not of defense. Your freedoms are not at risk e cause of Iraq or Afghanistan they are at risk because of Obama, and every other asshole in DC. I am a proud USMC vet, and damn proud of my service, and ashamed our government is using us as tools to destroy other nations in the name of "freedom."









 
Kinda like to know how my freedom is better off now that I can't fly without someone feeling my tits and shoving their hand in my cooch. Can't collect rainwater or live off grid and 5 million other things. Pretty sure we have lost freedom by the mile in the past 2 decades.
 
Little Wing said:
Kinda like to know how my freedom is better off now that I can't fly without someone feeling my tits and shoving their hand in my cooch. Can't collect rainwater or live off grid and 5 million other things. Pretty sure we have lost freedom by the mile in the past 2 decades.
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where are you that you can't collect rain water (rhetorical question) it's totally legal here. just bring a vibrator with you through security and make it a party! :stupid:
 
Warrantless searches, cops can take your cash etc just because you happen to be traveling in certain areas and they don't need to prove you committed a crime.


http://truthvoice.com/2015/05/5-rea...se-to-say-we-owe-our-freedom-to-the-military/

[FONT=&quot]Over 20 veterans a day kill themselves, many are homeless, and many are battling mental illness brought on by their time in the military. The best thing we can do if we care about the troops is stop sending them off to die in stupid wars and operations. But how are we going to stop that when we keep pretending these wars are protecting our freedom… we don’t want to give up on freedom, do we?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Which brings me to my third point: acting like the troops are protecting our freedom prevents proper scrutiny of troop deployments. Lots of people say, “I may not agree with the war, but I support the troops.” Yet when a veteran comes back from the middle east, many thank him or her for protecting our freedom. But the wars in the middle east are not protecting our freedom. So this attitude again makes people assume any act of war by the USA is to protect our freedom, which is pretty much never true. The more people who realize the troops are not protecting freedom, the harder it will be to frenzy the public into another war.[/FONT]
 
This is from 2014 and it has only gotten worse since then...

http://theweek.com/speedreads/441508/united-states-ranked-21st-worldwide-personal-freedom





We're not number one. In fact, when it comes to personal freedom, we're not even close — so says a new international ranking from the Legatum Institute in London. No less than 20 other nations ranked ahead of America in regards to personal freedom, which is calculated based on protections of civil rights and civil liberties. This ranking has dropped significantly in recent years; the U.S. was in ninth place just four years ago.

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machinist9 said:
When they came over here and knocked down the twin towers. More complicated than just that.

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And we are the world's police.
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wait until the documents are declassified. Government played a role . Those towel heads never knocked down those towers
 
I’ve never flown a commercial flight , but heard it’s a pain and you have to show up two hours early.
 
I flew a couple times this year.

Funny part is that the body scanners cant determine human tissue from non.... I say this because both times I was patted down because of my size.... Muscle apparently qualified me for an almost hand job.
 
Montego1 said:
I flew a couple times this year.

Funny part is that the body scanners cant determine human tissue from non.... I say this because both times I was patted down because of my size.... Muscle apparently qualified me for an almost hand job.
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Girl or guy? I refuse to fly because I don’t want to deal with taking my piercing out or being strip searched. I’d much rather drive. At least speeding tickets you can get out of . Not many cops think drug dealers drive a mini van lol. I only go to St. Louis , Chicago, Toledo , Indy and way up north in Wisconsin. I don’t let my lady drive unless my blood sugar is low
 
bomb_r2 said:
wait until the documents are declassified. Government played a role . Those towel heads never knocked down those towers
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You are a fucking moron. It is assholes like you with your brain dead conspiracy theories that spread real "lies" and not the Govt.

Were you even alive when that happened or probably too young to remember.

You "read" something on the internet that convinced you this was an inside job. Who do you think created that story? And why? What special access did the person or people who have created this theory have?

Don't believe everything you fucking read. SMH
 
bomb_r2 said:
I see many things on Facebook that show a soldier missing a limb or two saying this man gave his all for his country protecting your freedoms ( soldier doesn’t appear to be over there 40 ) . I mean no disrespect but I have a real question, how did my freedoms end up in the Middle East ? I respect the military, but honestly I feel since the civil war most wars are pointless and for political points or monetary gain . So how and when did my freedoms end up in the Middle East?
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Explain flight 93
 
Well then, if action is slow, you know where to go! :D
Montego1 said:
I flew a couple times this year.

Funny part is that the body scanners cant determine human tissue from non.... I say this because both times I was patted down because of my size.... Muscle apparently qualified me for an almost hand job.
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Get Shredded!
if everyone refused to fly till they ended the tsa bullshit it would end. there is power in money but no one wants to play rough.
 
Little Wing said:
if everyone refused to fly till they ended the tsa bullshit it would end. there is power in money but no one wants to play rough.
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I will be flying next month and plan on popping two viagra before my security screening and I always fly with a checked pistol which always means added fondling
 
frank zazz said:
I will be flying next month and plan on popping two viagra before my security screening and I always fly with a checked pistol which always means added fondling
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If there's a story about a plane landing due to a mile high incident I will be seeking you for a high five.
 
Augustine5I said:
You are a fucking moron. It is assholes like you with your brain dead conspiracy theories that spread real "lies" and not the Govt.

Were you even alive when that happened or probably too young to remember.

You "read" something on the internet that convinced you this was an inside job. Who do you think created that story? And why? What special access did the person or people who have created this theory have?

Don't believe everything you fucking read. SMH
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The government killed Martin Luther king jr and jfk , so far their track record is 0-2 . I was 15 a freshman in high school. I do watch a bunch of stuff on YouTube. Oh did you forget about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq which is why we had to invade oh and bin laden was in Afghanistan. That’s 0-4 ... show me something the government did do successfully. Whenever they declassify the files I’m going to show up at your house and rub my ass in your face for being wrong
 
To answer your op question.

Whether serving at home, abroad or fighting and dying in foreign countries feels like a direct contribution to your "freedom" is inconsequential. Each of the servicemember swore an oath at least once to defend the constitution in any circumstances, giving up their personal constitutional rights in some respect with the purpose of serving as a small percentage of citizenry does so the majority of Americans do not have to.
If the people in control misuse these men and women through political, financial, personal or more nefarious motivation, it is not on the men and women they are using, the blame or shame.

When you are called, you go. When you are standing over IED placed on the road, wondering WTF is your next step and how are you going to move forward, you certainly aren't thinking about the cunts that sent you there or if 9/11 was an inside job.

The best explanation I can give is to attempt to quote the Brian Bana character "Hoot" from Blackhawk Down.
When asked why he did it and if he was some kind of war junkie? His response was "It ain't about that. It's all about the guy to the left and the guy to the right of you."
 
And bomb_r2, you are a fucking child. It is pretty difficult to understand or respect the opinion of someone who's entire life experience involves five states and doesn't have a passport.
How can you have an opinion on commercial air travel when you've admittedly never done it, meaning you don't even know the processes of the TSA.

This kind of ignorant shit is what makes me embarrassed to be American sometimes.
 
bomb_r2 said:
The government killed Martin Luther king jr and jfk , so far their track record is 0-2 . I was 15 a freshman in high school. I do watch a bunch of stuff on YouTube. Oh did you forget about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq which is why we had to invade oh and bin laden was in Afghanistan. That’s 0-4 ... show me something the government did do successfully. Whenever they declassify the files I’m going to show up at your house and rub my ass in your face for being wrong
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You left out Robert Kennedy too. And Alien cover ups too dummy.

Where do you get your info from? You can't prove these accusations bc they are conspiracy "theories" which are theater of the mind for uneducated people.

I am not sure why ppl like your self gravitate to the idea of the Govt. secretly killing people including presidents who were loved....JFK especially. He was so loved the country mourned.

Weapons of mass destruction? Blame that on poor intelligence.

As far as success? There are things the Govt does that you will never know about. Things that allow you to sleep at night. And express your freedom of speech here on this forum without someone coming to take you "away" in the middle of the night.

We may never know how many attempted ISIS bombings that were thwarted by our Govt. It is the job of our Govt to keep us safe. I think it has done a pretty good job at doing so.

"You want me on that wall. You need me on that wall." You can't handle the truth!
 
Fucking people and the WMD thing...smdh

Define WMD. Chemical warfare is a component of WMD. Saddam gassed his own people to death in the thousands. There's your WMD. Mobile labs and factories capable of producing biological agents. More WMD.

Some people believe that the USG can perpetrate all of these false flag operations but don't have the capability to hide or report the presence of nuclear material that was possesssed by Iraq.

For the record, I am not a fan of our invasion of Iraq, nor do I have a love for those people, not the men anyway.
And while we are at it, I don't give a damn about the Stone Age motherfuckers in Afghanistan. I damn well hate seeing my brothers and sisters die over.
Like bomb_r2, those people we are fighting don't even have passports (or know what a fucking shower is,) so they don't exactly pose a legitimate threat to the US homeland.

Killing those ISIS booger eaters before they ever get a chance to attack America is a pretty justifiable use of resources imo.
 
I think we can all agree that most govt people are corrupt in one way or another. I don’t think 9/11 was an inside job. I think 9/11 could have been stopped had there been open lines of communication between all the govt agencies. From what my brother in law says the inner agency bullahit and rivalries are pathetic in DC to the point where they won’t share info back and forth that should be shared and prevent bigger issues.
 
nwguy said:
I think we can all agree that most govt people are corrupt in one way or another. I don’t think 9/11 was an inside job. I think 9/11 could have been stopped had there been open lines of communication between all the govt agencies. From what my brother in law says the inner agency bullahit and rivalries are pathetic in DC to the point where they won’t share info back and forth that should be shared and prevent bigger issues.
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I worked for six years for an antiterrorism firm near Wash. DC, having interaction with many different agencies as they are primarily government contractors. Your statement is spot on. Everyone is always trying to make themselves seem more relevant than the other guy. Information sharing, as we've seen lately, is spotty at best. It's fucking horrible.
Even personnel security clearances are adjudicated through different entities. I have held a TS/SCI clearance with DoD for many years yet when access was needed to DHS offices, they had the audacity to demand I get cleared through their channels, Scattered Castles I believe?
Its all "who's who in the zoo" in D.C. And no surprise to anyone, it's a complete shit show.
 
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