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The one log you'll want to follow - Deca Only

Lokthan

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Hello everyone. Lotta people already know what this is and why Im doing this but I'll fill everyone else in on what this is.

We know that bodybuilders back then ran Deca only cycles. We know that a lot of people have ran Deca only cycles with no issues and got significant results. So we are going to try.

What prompted this was a video released by enhanced athletes claiming that Deca should be run with no test, and that it can be properly done with no AI or caber because they claim that when test is added the side effects are shown. In addition, after going through some threads on different boards I've come to find that many BB in the middle east have been running their cycles with minimal/no test. Not aure if its entirely true, but what you cant argue is that the middle east bodybuilders as of late have been building some absolutely insane physiques.

There was a very long thread with very valid points either for or against Deca only. I just so happen to be in a situation where i need crashed T levels and this was a perfect opportunity to try this out. Best case scenario i get an amazing cycle with no sides. Worst case is i get all the deca sides.. Obviously.

In order to somewhat control this expirement the Deca that GC was so kind to sponsor will be given a labmax for EVERY vial that will be used to ensure that there is no testosterone in the vials. Only Deca. In addition, blood work will be ran before while crashed, about 4-5 weeks into the cycle, and a few weeks after the cycle.

Adex, short esther test, nolva, caber, clomid will all be on hand incase anything bad happens that needs to be stopped.

Proposed cycle:

Week 1: 400mg/wk
Week 2: 400mg/wk
Week 3: 600mg/wk
Week 4: 600mg/wk
Week 5: 800mg/wk
Week 6: 600mg/wk
Week 7: 400mg/wk
Week 8: 400mg/wk

Diet:

Currently I am beginning to reverse-diet from a long cut since March. Did keto for about 3 months and recently switched back to a carb basied diet while still in a deficit. Tren2k14 is going to be handling the coaching/diet and im more than stoked to see whats going to happen. What i do know is that hes a fan of cyclical bulking, which is great because im starting this bulk while higher than 10% bf.

Reverse dieting is going to take a little bit. Once im about 1 week out from hitting maintenance is when I will begin the Deca. Not sure whT tren2k14 has planned after that so that'll be a down the road thing.

Vitamins:

Fish oil
Multi
Vit C
Probiotics
R-ALA
Hydromax
Creatine
BCAA
Preworkout
Glutamine if i get to afford it, we will see.
Training:

Hard.As.Fuck. like absolute fuckin pure savagery.

High weight/ low volume. Cardio 3x a week for 20-30 mins LISS.



Log obviously isnt starting for a few more weeks but wanted to keep this in everyone's attention and continue to give you guys feedback/updates on whats going on. Especially with the blood work and labmax which will be recorded/ photographed. Stay tuned my dudes.

Thank you GC for hooking this up. Gear looks Crystal clean and ready to build muscle.

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im in,,,, but so im clear.. you will be using zero test... not even trt dose???
 
im in,,,, but so im clear.. you will be using zero test... not even trt dose???
Nada. Im on 50mg TPP e3d right now. Will taper down to 25mg e3d for a week and then completely off before starting deca.

Why i have to labmax the deca make sure theres no test at all

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oh yeah this is gonna be good.. i say you gonna have some dick problems but other than that you gonna like the way you look.
can you stretch it out to 12 weeks? 8 is kinda short for deca
 
oh yeah this is gonna be good.. i say you gonna have some dick problems but other than that you gonna like the way you look.
can you stretch it out to 12 weeks? 8 is kinda short for deca
Dick problems is really the only side im worried about

Yeah ive been thinking about it. I understand deca will really start to show in the 3rd week. But i wanted to play it safe. If there really isnt any detrimental difference safety wise from a longer run then id definitely run it longer.

I also dont have much to go off of so any logical ideas or opinions from Anyone to make for a better expirement please feel free to discuss.

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Good luck man. I had to quit following that Deca thread cuz I started feeling like worms were eating my brain lol.

Hopefully this won't turn into a shit storm.

I'm looking forward to seeing how this works out for you.


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Good luck man. I had to quit following that Deca thread cuz I started feeling like worms were eating my brain lol.

Hopefully this won't turn into a shit storm.

I'm looking forward to seeing how this works out for you.


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Yeah dude that thread is what like 35 pages long now?

Im hoping the same man. Everyone is different, just hoping im on the green side of the fence.

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We are grateful to have you log this for us. I'm eager to see this and will want to analyze the bloodwork in depth. This is truly going to either confirm what most believe to be true or refute some of the bro science that has been spit out over the years. We shall see!
 
I'll be following along. You are certainly braver than most to be attempting this. Best of luck.


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Its a really risky thing to do. But the possibility of running cycles with no pct or sides intruiged me enough.

There really should be a running bet going

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Here we go! About when do you think you'll start? I wanna get mine going around the same time you do if I'm able to with work and travel coming up.

I've decided on 400mg test and 800mg Deca. 12 weeks. May up the deca to a gram if all goes well.

I'm looking forward to this buddy! Good luck! You know your body well and youre a pretty smart fella, if anyone should try this, it's you.

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Here we go! About when do you think you'll start? I wanna get mine going around the same time you do if I'm able to with work and travel coming up.

I've decided on 400mg test and 800mg Deca. 12 weeks. May up the deca to a gram if all goes well.

I'm looking forward to this buddy! Good luck! You know your body well and youre a pretty smart fella, if anyone should try this, it's you.

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Hmmm start date should be sometime next month. Probably this time next month to be exact.

Damn dude im stoked! Whose deca did you choose?

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yeak Lok up the dose and run longer if you can... if you need a donation for the supplements let me know I'll throw you a bone.
the thing with deca vs say NPP is it def takes a good month to really hit. also as for sides you gonna get the same at 400 mg as 800.. but youll get way more muscle building affects at 800 for say 12 weeks,, if you on budget ill help you out... i would really like to see some good honest feed back so we can put all this bull shit to rest.. yeah your dick aint gonna be whistling dixie but a little cialis will fix that
 
yeak Lok up the dose and run longer if you can... if you need a donation for the supplements let me know I'll throw you a bone.
the thing with deca vs say NPP is it def takes a good month to really hit. also as for sides you gonna get the same at 400 mg as 800.. but youll get way more muscle building affects at 800 for say 12 weeks,, if you on budget ill help you out... i would really like to see some good honest feed back so we can put all this bull shit to rest.. yeah your dick aint gonna be whistling dixie but a little cialis will fix that
Well i got 10 grams of deca pending labmax right now, may have enough i think.

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yeak Lok up the dose and run longer if you can... if you need a donation for the supplements let me know I'll throw you a bone.
the thing with deca vs say NPP is it def takes a good month to really hit. also as for sides you gonna get the same at 400 mg as 800.. but youll get way more muscle building affects at 800 for say 12 weeks,, if you on budget ill help you out... i would really like to see some good honest feed back so we can put all this bull shit to rest.. yeah your dick aint gonna be whistling dixie but a little cialis will fix that
Ill have 3g leftover if i follow that protocol
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i would run it 800mg until its gone.
its a total waste to start low and taper up.. unless you were doing something like tren for the first time
and worried about sides. no reason to taper off either. it will taper itself out . anyway thats how i would do it
that will give you 12 weeks
 
yeak Lok up the dose and run longer if you can... if you need a donation for the supplements let me know I'll throw you a bone.
the thing with deca vs say NPP is it def takes a good month to really hit. also as for sides you gonna get the same at 400 mg as 800.. but youll get way more muscle building affects at 800 for say 12 weeks,, if you on budget ill help you out... i would really like to see some good honest feed back so we can put all this bull shit to rest.. yeah your dick aint gonna be whistling dixie but a little cialis will fix that
Good dude right here!

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i would run it 800mg until its gone.
its a total waste to start low and taper up.. unless you were doing something like tren for the first time
and worried about sides. no reason to taper off either. it will taper itself out . anyway thats how i would do it
that will give you 12 weeks

I agree with this for sure.


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Hmmm start date should be sometime next month. Probably this time next month to be exact.

Damn dude im stoked! Whose deca did you choose?

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Not sure. I have Pharmacom and Dutch Deca. So one of the two. Sounds like we will be starting about the same time, so that's cool.

Not sure I'll run a log, I just don't have the time. I sure as hell don't have the time to run a Lokthan type log.

But I'll be doing bloodwork and photos throughout.

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i would run it 800mg until its gone.
its a total waste to start low and taper up.. unless you were doing something like tren for the first time
and worried about sides. no reason to taper off either. it will taper itself out . anyway thats how i would do it
that will give you 12 weeks
I agree with the tapering, I wouldn't do it. With Deca I'd run a straight high dose. Like BC said, if you get the deca sides you'll get them regardless of 400mg, 800mg, 1g.

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Not sure. I have Pharmacom and Dutch Deca. So one of the two. Sounds like we will be starting about the same time, so that's cool.

Not sure I'll run a log, I just don't have the time. I sure as hell don't have the time to run a Lokthan type log.

But I'll be doing bloodwork and photos throughout.

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just post up here.. im sure lok wont mind... if this bold cyp dont kick in i'll drop it and switch to NPP at a gram and run with you guys.
im gonna give it 2 more weeks . ill post up some pics here too
 
Labmax is shit.

It might indicate nandrolone but it will not exclude test.

Need LC/LC/MS blood analysis to determine no test in your system.
 
Labmax is shit.

It might indicate nandrolone but it will not exclude test.

Need LC/LC/MS blood analysis to determine no test in your system.

if i switch to NPP i'll do both .. Urine mass spec test to show nadralone ratio and also reg testosterone level blood test .
800 mg of Nanrdalone should come back like close to 500 ng/ml of nandrolne on a urine test
 
i would run it 800mg until its gone.
its a total waste to start low and taper up.. unless you were doing something like tren for the first time
and worried about sides. no reason to taper off either. it will taper itself out . anyway thats how i would do it
that will give you 12 weeks

Agreed...


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