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Dema
05-26-2016, 09:57 PM
That's right.. Labmax has made an UV anavar/winny test that eliminates all the difficulties or question of the last test! They were nice enough to send me a couple vials to try out and give feedback!

I first tested SF anavar I tested with their old test awhile back that I was questioning and after I tested some pharmacom anavar that has been tested by Simec..

I have questions about the results and you can be your own judge, I will update this as the labmax guys will get back to me and give their option on results.

Dema
05-26-2016, 09:58 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/5b46761399be23e79db84bff1a0cbe7f.jpg

Here is a brief description of the test!

Dema
05-26-2016, 10:01 PM
This is the SF anavar 10mg... I put 1/3 of the pill into vial... http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/037997c176db88fab4250262e4fa4040.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/e38869c70dd2765450a8d70f5833f69e.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/abb0805b42901300a09b151823e948da.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/6a28525f6c27bb3f4aebfa84a387ec94.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/eb7c8390d32fac47b581040bac0b4154.jpg

Dema
05-26-2016, 10:03 PM
About 7-10 mins went by... I decided to test if I would put the whole pill in http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/5313811273f06247b5a89df3db5569a3.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/85fe0fa1c1fed6e3d237d9b06f08faa5.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/e01960c50bd8fe6d36c0804d24c57daf.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/01cfd464a9bc6359e57e6d5d0ada1898.jpg

Dema
05-26-2016, 10:05 PM
Next I repeated the same process with a Pharmacom's anavar 10mg..
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Dema
05-26-2016, 10:07 PM
Here is after waiting and adding the rest of pill

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Dema
05-26-2016, 10:08 PM
Here are both results side by side

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/1e461ed8d861d491dd344d536b0a7092.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/5d1c24ae6efb59ef64c62fb0ff616a86.jpg
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Cruefan89
05-26-2016, 10:09 PM
That looks consistent with the way they describe the positive test for hormone present.

Cruefan89
05-26-2016, 10:22 PM
​I take that back!!!!

Dema
05-26-2016, 10:26 PM
Lol

Dema
05-26-2016, 10:51 PM
Here is a one hour after pic
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/84cfbc07b8b60d1be6ee46d950f94555.jpg

bigbal2943
05-27-2016, 03:24 AM
:winkfinger:


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anavar
05-27-2016, 06:36 AM
I can see the green color so it is pass according to the new test. But what is the red one, according to the description it would be dbol ?

Dema
05-27-2016, 07:49 AM
I can see the green color so it is pass according to the new test. But what is the red one, according to the description it would be dbol ?

I don't know.... I think it's the dye of the pill... And with no Florescences I wouldn't call it a pass.. This new test saying the filler wouldn't have an effect on the glow as the last test did... So

anavar
05-27-2016, 09:10 AM
I am looking at the new test, very interesting and I think 100 times better that the current/previous one. The red is for sure fail but looks to me like dbol

The other one green fluorescence it no doubt pass.

jerseydevil
05-27-2016, 11:16 AM
You said its SF var. To be clear is this Valkyrie anavar?

Dema
05-27-2016, 11:23 AM
You said its SF var. To be clear is this Valkyrie anavar?

correct... Here is link to test I did with old kit

http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/showthread.php/45743-Labmax-Valkyrie-pharmaceuticals-anavar

anavar
05-27-2016, 12:49 PM
I see the old test which was fail, no color change, this new one is different it did not detect anavar too.

there is no doubt that the other test s pass it has the right fluorescence.

s2h
05-27-2016, 12:53 PM
Lab max is never going to be able to give accurate test results.....its not possible due to the method of testing can't control the non active components of the tested item....

Example....say you put anavar in sugar and anavar in baking soda....would they both come back the same color even with the same anavar in them?..no they won't....because the test mentor is not designed to differentiate between the sugar and the baking soda....only.between say anavar and dbol...

I have no dog in the fight between the labs tested but I do feel lab max is not a accurate way to test drugs that are not pure and contain unspecified components...

anavar
05-27-2016, 01:08 PM
Lab max is never going to be able to give accurate test results.....its not possible due to the method of testing can't control the non active components of the tested item....

Example....say you put anavar in sugar and anavar in baking soda....would they both come back the same color even with the same anavar in them?..no they won't....because the test mentor is not designed to differentiate between the sugar and the baking soda....only.between say anavar and dbol...

I have no dog in the fight between the labs tested but I do feel lab max is not a accurate way to test drugs that are not pure and contain unspecified components...


The trick is the fluorescence does not matter what carrieryou use baking soda, sugar, proteins etc it will give you the same fluorescence.
The test reagent will react only with anavar nothing elseproducing the fluorescence. This is the whole trick how the test works.

bigbreads80
05-27-2016, 03:27 PM
I've done alot of these tests. Simply- SF var is not var. It's 100%dbol. Pharmacoms is legit var. The green showed up just as it should under the light. It may be a mix though as it had a yellow change initially. Did it ever go blue? Like as in a blue jean color blue?

Anavar is a bitch to test mainly because 99% of it is fake. I've only ever had 2 brands test legit. Once u get a pure anavar test , the results are clear.

s2h
05-27-2016, 03:56 PM
The trick is the fluorescence does not matter what carrieryou use baking soda, sugar, proteins etc it will give you the same fluorescence.
The test reagent will react only with anavar nothing elseproducing the fluorescence. This is the whole trick how the test works.



how does fluorescence pick betweeen non steroid and steroid components?....i dont see how this is any diffferent then using a light or not....is there scientific evidence a light alters each steroid a different color....very subjective imho...

anavar
05-27-2016, 04:24 PM
how does fluorescence pick betweeen non steroid and steroid components?....i dont see how this is any diffferent then using a light or not....is there scientific evidence a light alters each steroid a different color....very subjective imho...

This is question to veterans here, I have labmax test kit but I am not expert to teach others.

Each steroid gives different fluorescence.

For example test prop it has initial color in vial A olive green while test enan is orange
Then you have fluorescence test prop is very bright blue –greenish, while test enan shows some blue.
Each one is different. The fluorescence is main trick. No fluoresce bunk, no hormone.


This is how it is designed to give fluorescence only if you drop hormone inside the test tube. There is no fluorescence from oil, alcohol,fillers etc.

s2h
05-27-2016, 04:50 PM
UV light or rays have been proven to be inacccurrate the same as colormetric testing....you cant use either in a court of law to convict someone on drug charges....forensic chemists wont even acknowledge a colormetric test as remotely valid....this is were i base my reason from..the same reason these methods are not used by forensic chemists....there subjective in nature due to multiple skews of colors...the unknown reaction of the chemicals to various non steroidal/drug ingredients...possibility of outside contamination of the tested drug....the list of human errors is too long to cover..

UV/Rays base there colors off molecules.....there are alot of steroids with similar structures...i have seen alot of these tests done and inconsistency is about all that is normal...

dawg16
05-27-2016, 05:36 PM
I've done alot of these tests. Simply- SF var is not var. It's 100%dbol. Pharmacoms is legit var. The green showed up just as it should under the light. It may be a mix though as it had a yellow change initially. Did it ever go blue? Like as in a blue jean color blue?

Anavar is a bitch to test mainly because 99% of it is fake. I've only ever had 2 brands test legit. Once u get a pure anavar test , the results are clear.
Correct me if I'm wrong, shellsfit is a rep with SF. I believe she said she runs it.....have her state if it's dbol or var...might put her on the spot, but let's hear from her.

anavar
05-27-2016, 06:24 PM
UV light or rays have been proven to be inacccurrate the same as colormetric testing....you cant use either in a court of law to convict someone on drug charges....forensic chemists wont even acknowledge a colormetric test as remotely valid....this is were i base my reason from..the same reason these methods are not used by forensic chemists....there subjective in nature due to multiple skews of colors...the unknown reaction of the chemicals to various non steroidal/drug ingredients...possibility of outside contamination of the tested drug....the list of human errors is too long to cover..

UV/Rays base there colors off molecules.....there are alot of steroids with similar structures...i have seen alot of these tests done and inconsistency is about all that is normal...

It is all true I do agree you cannot dispute it. But still I personally consider it a great home test kit to pre screen AAS.
You cannot of course compare $5 test vial to $300 lab testing.

I know that my tren is tren not pure corn oil.

the_predator
05-27-2016, 07:06 PM
UV light or rays have been proven to be inacccurrate the same as colormetric testing....you cant use either in a court of law to convict someone on drug charges....forensic chemists wont even acknowledge a colormetric test as remotely valid....this is were i base my reason from..the same reason these methods are not used by forensic chemists....there subjective in nature due to multiple skews of colors...the unknown reaction of the chemicals to various non steroidal/drug ingredients...possibility of outside contamination of the tested drug....the list of human errors is too long to cover..

UV/Rays base there colors off molecules.....there are alot of steroids with similar structures...i have seen alot of these tests done and inconsistency is about all that is normal...
Have to agree with s2h on this one. Way to many variables

the_predator
05-27-2016, 07:19 PM
Plus, we have one of our own reps(Shell, a female for those that may not know her) who has used Valk anavar many times in the past long before she was with this company with fantastic results. But, due to these test results we at SF will look into this further to make 100% positive that nothing slipped through the cracks.

s2h
05-27-2016, 07:22 PM
It is all true I do agree you cannot dispute it. But still I personally consider it a great home test kit to pre screen AAS.
You cannot of course compare $5 test vial to $300 lab testing.

I know that my tren is tren not pure corn oil.

Cheaper to just find a good source and stick with it....I do "get" why people use lab max etc ...a sense of knowing is something many seek in the world of PEDs...I just get abscesses and learn the $3,000 way:)

s2h
05-27-2016, 07:24 PM
Plus, we have one of our own reps(Shell, a female for those that may not know her) who has used Valk anavar many times in the past long before she was with this company with fantastic results. But, due to these test results we at SF will look into this further to make 100% positive that nothing slipped through the cracks.

Send me some of that var....I will tell with the best tester ever...25 yrs of gear use.....can't fool the elderly...

the_predator
05-27-2016, 07:31 PM
Send me some of that var....I will tell with the best tester ever...25 yrs of gear use.....can't fool the elderly...
:clapping:

jerseydevil
05-27-2016, 07:45 PM
My question is why is a Pharmacom rep Labmaxing Valkyrie var anyway? That's neither here nor there, the result does look off. But....

I helped Shellsfit with her current cycle, one in which she is currently using Valkyrie anavar. She had used this var I believe 3 times before she ever became a SF rep, and the experience she reported to me was nothing but great results. So it seems to me something is off here. I agree with Predator that SF needs to test the current batch and report back.

I have absolutely no ties to Steroidsfax or Valkyrie.

jerseydevil
05-27-2016, 07:47 PM
....can't fool the elderly...
Stop calling me elderly GDI...

anavar
05-27-2016, 08:03 PM
Cheaper to just find a good source and stick with it....I do "get" why people use lab max etc ...a sense of knowing is something many seek in the world of PEDs...I just get abscesses and learn the $3,000 way:)

you know I have been around for a long time to trust even the best "source" a guy I bought before good stuff, sold me one day bold which was just straight corn oil.

I was pinning for 6 weeks before I found out. it was long before labmax

jerseydevil
05-27-2016, 08:10 PM
you know I have been around for a long time to trust even the best "source" a guy I bought before good stuff, sold me one day bold which was just straight corn oil.
I was pinning for 6 weeks before I found out. it was long before labmaxPoint taken. But so okay if you had labmaxed it and it was severely underdosed bold, it still would show positive and 6 weeks later no results. So what did that prove? Scammed either way but now also for the cost of the labmax kit.

Unlisted
05-27-2016, 09:01 PM
Point taken. But so okay if you had labmaxed it and it was severely underdosed bold, it still would show positive and 6 weeks later no results. So what did that prove? Scammed either way but now also for the cost of the labmax kit.
Tito has a solid point..i can see labmax comin in handy for wanting to know if var is dbol & shit like that for persnal use..Its nice guys can test these things for cheap at home..

There is alot of issues though..a buddy just tested var & used alittle to much & came back winny..i suggested he used a little less & came back spot on var...Shits confusing..ya still have no idea potency,,mix etc.. for the guys that cant clam out the funds for mass spec,, it can make a guy/gal all warm & fuzzy inside playing with the cheap home testing...

Im to broke for either..i say send all gears to s2h & jd for proper testing results..

ALL sources can have issues..

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I do not condone the use of AAS ..Please do the proper research needed

dawg16
05-27-2016, 09:15 PM
Send me some of that var....I will tell with the best tester ever...25 yrs of gear use.....can't fool the elderly...
LMFAO, As I remember, ingrown hairs on the back of your head....haha...us old fucks got it figured out....bro, you have a gold mine here....send your var to sh2 for the ingrown hair test...lol

Dema
05-27-2016, 09:23 PM
IThat well first off.. I didn't labmax this to prove anything other then the new testing method.... I believe the valk I had was var but underdose or I used to little when doing old test as to it took so long to change the right color.. I thought for sure it was going to glow green then I was going to test some winny... Only winny I have on had is AT.. Like I said I don't care where it came from, I'm testing the new labmax method... They said filler and dyes wouldn't mess with the uv test.. Even said you can test liquid orals with this test... When the valk var didn't react it should have I wanted to see what it should have done. So I grabbed some old var from pharmacom and here are my results.. I would love to have more kits to test Dbol and winny but I was sent two to try out.... Honestly I'm not as confident in them as the old test but the results are there... The labmax guys seen the old test done on the valk and said it was a fail... Color reacted way to late which means there is no hormone to make a reaction, color changes as vial is exposed to open air...


Once again this is not to see if var is var I can care less and SF shouldn't care either.. This is month and months old var and new batches have been made im sure... This is to see how well the new labmax works as it should change the var winny test kit

s2h
05-27-2016, 09:45 PM
you know I have been around for a long time to trust even the best "source" a guy I bought before good stuff, sold me one day bold which was just straight corn oil.

I was pinning for 6 weeks before I found out. it was long before labmax

i have a source who will never give me corn oil....so i wont pay for a lab max...try tasting the oil before you inject...every steroid has a unique flavor....mouth max i call it..

s2h
05-27-2016, 09:47 PM
LMFAO, As I remember, ingrown hairs on the back of your head....haha...us old fucks got it figured out....bro, you have a gold mine here....send your var to sh2 for the ingrown hair test...lol

good memory....happens every time...da bumps

Shellsfit
05-27-2016, 10:25 PM
Guys I just gotta say.....I love my var. I have used Valk var 3 times prior to this cycle with great results. I have no complaints.



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jerseydevil
05-28-2016, 05:10 AM
IThat well first off.. I didn't labmax this to prove anything other then the new testing method.... I believe the valk I had was var but underdose or I used to little when doing old test as to it took so long to change the right color.. I thought for sure it was going to glow green then I was going to test some winny... Only winny I have on had is AT.. Like I said I don't care where it came from, I'm testing the new labmax method... They said filler and dyes wouldn't mess with the uv test.. Even said you can test liquid orals with this test... When the valk var didn't react it should have I wanted to see what it should have done. So I grabbed some old var from pharmacom and here are my results.. I would love to have more kits to test Dbol and winny but I was sent two to try out.... Honestly I'm not as confident in them as the old test but the results are there... The labmax guys seen the old test done on the valk and said it was a fail... Color reacted way to late which means there is no hormone to make a reaction, color changes as vial is exposed to open air...


Once again this is not to see if var is var I can care less and SF shouldn't care either.. This is month and months old var and new batches have been made im sure... This is to see how well the new labmax works as it should change the var winny test kit
Thanks for clarifying Dema. It would have been nice if you would have made this clear at the onset brother.

anavar
05-28-2016, 05:11 AM
Point taken. But so okay if you had labmaxed it and it was severely underdosed bold, it still would show positive and 6 weeks later no results. So what did that prove? Scammed either way but now also for the cost of the labmax kit.






Of course the home test will not show you exact mg/ml but the brighter fluorescence the more hormone you have. You can actually get someidea if your vial has fair amount of hormone.


If there is just trace amount of hormone you will not seeany fluorescence. Anyway you look at this it is still handy home test.


You want more then you send to lab and pay $300. But what the point of sending to lab if your vial is total bunk, the $5 labmax test vial saves you on unnecessary $300 lab testing.

Skip Foursome
05-28-2016, 06:19 AM
All the gyrations you guys go through to get a quality product is baffling to me. I love var, run it all the time, never been screwed because I know who the good sources are. Plus I know good var when I run it, I know what to expect and how it works. I will never need a lab max kit.

anavar
05-28-2016, 07:34 AM
All the gyrations you guys go through to get a quality product is baffling to me. I love var, run it all the time, never been screwed because I know who the good sources are. Plus I know good var when I run it, I know what to expect and how it works. I will never need a lab max kit.

you've got a point but I do not like to be stupid lab rat to test all on my liver,
Particularly if you are female you do not want to take anychances in case somebody sells you dbol.

Skip Foursome
05-28-2016, 08:10 AM
you've got a point but I do not like to be stupid lab rat to test all on my liver,
Particularly if you are female you do not want to take anychances in case somebody sells you dbol.


Little Lady
Gluutes911
Shellsfit
Ms. Robinson

All of these women buy their var from reliable sources and never heard once about any of them using lab max.

Also, I have seen lab max test legitimate mass spec tested var as winny. Might be the end user that caused the failed test but then again who knows.

As someone experienced with using various colormetric tests it can be very hit and miss. I think lab max can raise more questions than answer them.

anavar
05-28-2016, 02:18 PM
As someone experienced with using various colormetric tests it can be very hit and miss. I think lab max can raise more questions than answer them.

Those are interesting opinions but the test shows you thatyou have hormone inside.
Before people used to pin some shit to find out that it ispure corn oil.
Now you have chance to pre screen all the shit, it is notthe same a lab testing but gives you some security.

Velociraptor44
05-28-2016, 08:01 PM
Little Lady
Gluutes911
Shellsfit
Ms. Robinson

All of these women buy their var from reliable sources and never heard once about any of them using lab max.

Also, I have seen lab max test legitimate mass spec tested var as winny. Might be the end user that caused the failed test but then again who knows.

As someone experienced with using various colormetric tests it can be very hit and miss. I think lab max can raise more questions than answer them.

Again Skip is the man.

All srs i just dont think these labmax kits being accurate and its loose science. Melting point or MS. Labmax is loose... I wish i wasnt but it is.

anavar
05-29-2016, 12:15 PM
Again Skip is the man.

All srs i just dont think these labmax kits being accurate and its loose science. Melting point or MS. Labmax is loose... I wish i wasnt but it is.

I wonder if you ever used labmax test kit.
For example you drop tren, it gives you nice bright green fluorescence, nothing else gives the same color, different AAS give different colors. So you know 100% that it is tren, can you explain how it can be loose science, you know exactly what you have.


If it is very bright fluorescence then you know that thereis fair amount of hormone, except you do not know exact mg/ml

Skip Foursome
05-29-2016, 01:39 PM
I wonder if you ever used labmax test kit.
For example you drop tren, it gives you nice bright green fluorescence, nothing else gives the same color, different AAS give different colors. So you know 100% that it is tren, can you explain how it can be loose science, you know exactly what you have.


If it is very bright fluorescence then you know that thereis fair amount of hormone, except you do not know exact mg/ml

I gotta ask, are you affiliated with labmax?

Dema
06-08-2016, 07:46 PM
Ight guys..... So over with that... I got a couple more test kits in. They would like to see me test the winny out... I will be testing British dragon stanabol. 10mg from WP... I've ran this and treated me just like good ol winny and have a couple pills left over so.. Once again let me clairly for some.. This test is to test how well the new LaBMaX anavar/winny truely works for users... Will post up results later

Dema
06-08-2016, 09:11 PM
So here are the results...
This is before http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/629f44ba10c75227073164019685c8ba.jpg
Right as I dropped in http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/70bf8148657f5f142a76a91bf7438c78.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/6e930eddc0287f5f300656c94e85612c.jpg
15mins in http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/ebddfa88090f7652fa25cad0359c019d.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/cff2c70a2e297c782d24ae5166a89082.jpg

Dema
06-08-2016, 09:14 PM
Next I added more winny... http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/e5a47845eaf88196fdde9adf7dfd7111.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/7483fb077e8b26609635bd319c32b412.jpg
Now 1 hour later
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/5f647df985efee205f477a7cc63d9057.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/45a0b689e0f0f4512b0f6ae19446b3e0.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/f3550bc18f26ccc411757371ee5ed637.jpg

Dema
06-08-2016, 09:16 PM
Next I tested same pill on old test

Right as I put pill in http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/88fbfab280c909c54efd299c9cd951ef.jpg

And 15m later
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/61ad2db57e649040ea51392115c69c6d.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/d709a3379ac5796b87de454be2d33275.jpg

Dema
06-08-2016, 09:19 PM
Ight guys... So I started with new test... I added 1/8'of pill to test starting out.. Honestly thought it looks green as in var waiting 15 mins took pics and added about 1/4 pill into vial took pics then waiting an 45mins to take last set of pics... I will sent this to labmax and see what they have to say.. Then I ran an old test with 1/8 of same pill and the results were very clear after 15m...

anavar
06-09-2016, 07:06 AM
how did you get the test I see only the old one on labmax site

I see the difference, winstrol is blue under UV, anavar was green

Dema
06-09-2016, 10:29 AM
how did you get the test I see only the old one on labmax site

I see the difference, winstrol is blue under UV, anavar was green

I believe they are not for sell yet.. They are still in testing..

anavar
06-09-2016, 04:31 PM
But anyway thanks for sharing the new test with us. It works better, your anavar was pass (green fluorescence) and your winstrol is also pass (blue fluorescence)
You can see much better difference between anavar and winstrol with the new test.

Dema
06-09-2016, 04:37 PM
Here is a good side by side.. Winny on left var on right http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/1e452c8a31f9bd6c6ca2b030e4333745.jpg

anavar
06-10-2016, 11:38 AM
indeed you see it better, no mistake blue and green, I emailed labmax about the new test they are trying to get it running soon.