I will pay for your blood work on Eurotropin GH/ and other products!

just saw a gh serum of 48 and a igf serum 3 weeks later of close to 300 from a baseline of about 175.....not saying your kits arent solid but those numbers are pretty stout from a grey top...just sayin...

Gray tops are the shiz

There really isn't any text book number besides IGF, its a crude method, but it does provide a yes or no.. We also have guys at base igf 99, coming back at igf 284 (at 2ius), some guys aren't even testing igf..

What we have is making a statement nonetheless.... The GH market is a crap shot and I think you can agree with that!

We do have the grays too, and they are making a lot or noise too


Checking your HGH serum levels through blood work!
(Textbook testing for therapeutic levels vs 4-10ius is far different)


In today's age we are limited to testing methods when testing our HGH serum levels due to expense factors.. Though direct HGH serum blood work seems to be the only practical method we have available when it concerns "Meat Heads on a budget" such as PrivateLabs/labcorp, it's known as a "Crude method" like all blood work, however it's a good indicator of where wecame from, where we are, and where we are going!

Test pricing can range from 50-75$ in some cases for a HGH or IGF panelhttp://www.privatemdlabs.com/

Testing HGH serum through a blood panel is NOT the current lab standard,IGF levels establish the effectiveness of TRUE HGH levels,and they are seen and recognized by a labs aspect as the RELIABLE standard (depending on time of day,diet,and/or the influence of injection of HGH(exogenous) other then natural levels(endogenous),However, I'm not suggesting that HGH labs are poor with inaccuracy, in fact I'm going to implementing that it's a GREAT alternative compared to the expensive lab standards, as it can provide overwhelming evidence if your HGH is in fact real HGH..

Now, if your utilizing HGH through subq/IM administration (exogenous influence) your levels will spike approximately 3 hrs after administration, an IFG analysis is completely unnecessary UNLESS you have tested prior for baseline levels and wish to compare, the simple HGH serum test will yield a sufficient readout if in fact your HGH is legit or not, as your HGH serum will stand far outside of the standard reference range.. FACT- This is a proven method to determine a YES or NO.. (Its's suggested to do a pre base line readings on HGH & IGF levels for comparison)
Also, always keep notes when testings, with each pre and after test method..


Preparing for Blood test (6-10ius pre testing)

There's a lot of controversy in regards to fasting vs finding it unnecessary.. There's some truth behind this for great reason, such as fasting enhances growth hormone secretion and amplifies the complex rhythms of growth hormone secretion in men (when testing natural levels), levels can be very infrequent and erratic, especially during a fed state, as many nutrients posses an unpredictable effect on GH release in most people..(metabolization sensitivity will vary).. However, when testing 3hrs after IM injection of HGH fasting has been proven to be irrelevant to serum levels (in some/most patients).In order to rule out and opposing factors that can be questionable with manipulation through serum levels, it is SUGGESTED to fast 6-10 hrs pre-blood drawing. Carbohydrate intake should be lowered considerably 24 hrs prior, up until 6-10 hrs fast, there after no consumption (glucose may suppress GH release effecting spike levels)..

Dosages and Serum levels to expect

6-8ius can yield 15-50 ng/mL as ranges can vary (this has been proven in real life experiences, regardless of the quality, generic or US Pharma grade,some user do NOT respond well with HGH injections, fact this is why it's suggested to keep notes from prior testing) Toss text book reads out the window!

Remain inactive pre-testing

As Further recommendations have it, absolutely no strenuous or rigorous stimulation through activities such as running,walking,or exercising, anything that can stimulation hormonal levels and HGH secretions..

Consumption of water is fine, a glass or 2 will NOT hurt, but limit hrs up until testings..

The usage of alcohol and/or tobacco is entirely prohibited, and not recommended, especially alcohol..cease all consumption 72hrs prior due to the brake down enzymes and glucose levels and pancreases secretions from alcohol..

Recap-

6-10 ius (IM) 3 hrs pre testing (subq administration posses a slower rate with metabolizing in some users, IM has proven a 2-6 fold in levels)
Fasting is recommended, but not necessary (suggested 6-10 hrs pre)
Limit carb intake to absolute minimum
Consumption of water is OK if limited to 1 glass or 2, and not 3 hrs pre testing
No strenuous activities under any circumstances before testing
The use of alcohol and tobacco and other drugs should be completely eliminated 72 hrs prior to testing

Regards,
Vision

i'm in no way saying yout euros are not legit..merely making a point that there are some greys scoring well...

if anyone ever just has to be 100% sure there gh is gh ..get a cortisol test with the igf test ....cortisol on gh will be well below normal when on gh...just a fun fact to toss out there for folks ....

s2h said:

i'm in no way saying yout euros are not legit..merely making a point that there are some greys scoring well...

if anyone ever just has to be 100% sure there gh is gh ..get a cortisol test with the igf test ....cortisol on gh will be well below normal when on gh...just a fun fact to toss out there for folks ....

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Duder, without a doubt, those "GRAYS" are dominating... The grays are the top contender in the market as we speak (only because the Eurotropin is NEW and needs more time to prove itself) ---- this is IMHO my boss my kill me for saying this.... buts its true... thus far, Eurotropin is doing stellar... They have some competition that is for sure... and lots to prove!

Thus I will pay for bloods...

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If people score the legit grays that is..... if I may add

s2h said:

cortisol on gh will be well below normal when on gh...just a fun fact to toss out there for folks ....

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Yes...this is absolutely correct. ^^^