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5 weeks from last pin bloodwork

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got testing done after being off for 5 weeks ( been on blast and cruise for 2 years roughly) the old lady wants a baby so I came off :/ I was wondering why I had no sex drive and I found out why I guess... what does this look like to you guys

@skip foursome

trt patient?
give more time for rebound?

pct was ug peptides clomid and nolva 100:50 all the way thru
 

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being on that long, you will never resume regular production, your natural system has been suppressed for too long.

I did the same years ago, but was not aware of it, also abused pain meds for a good duration of time.

having to come off of aas to impregnate is a myth....

you may want to look into some fertility drugs as an option, or send her my way, I can look at her and she will start showing.

absolutely a trt candidate though.....


didn't pay attention before, but why high liver values? lifting heavy prior to blood draw?
 
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I lifted hard the day before, I took a dbol to for a pump to try it, but I don't believe that elevated it that high. thanks for the feedback.

so green light to start blasting again?

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just turned 27 years old tho. so I was hoping I would bounce back
 
5 weeks from last pin? So factoring in two weeks of eater clearing this was after 3 weeks of true PCT?

Your levels should be artificially raised still due to the Clomid. I got my bloods drawn 5 weeks after a 5 week PCT, and then 5 weeks later and my levels dropped down about 30%.

If this were truly your time frame and not a typo, your levels are far lower than that. You need a much longer and aggressive pct, or at least multiple goes at it.
 
I mean really? from the numbers you presented, you are suppressed anyway so its not going to make a lot of difference as far as natural suppression.

it will make you fee better though, and get your sex drive back. nolva will wreck your drive for sure. my wife was flicking her bean like the kid in deliverance playing the banjo and I just had to sit there and watch. I was fighting gyno @ the time with letro and nolva. I yelled at it, pulled on it, tugged it, slapped it.....still no dice.

good luck
 
5 weeks from last pin? So factoring in two weeks of eater clearing this was after 3 weeks of true PCT?

Your levels should be artificially raised still due to the Clomid. I got my bloods drawn 5 weeks after a 5 week PCT, and then 5 weeks later and my levels dropped down about 30%.

If this were truly your time frame and not a typo, your levels are far lower than that. You need a much longer and aggressive pct, or at least multiple goes at it.

rally, do you think it will help if he has been on for 2 years? that's what my response was based around.
 
rally, do you think it will help if he has been on for 2 years? that's what my response was based around.

There have been people that have recover after longer.. It is person dependent.. For example I can't even fully recover from a single blast. I personally would remain "on" and go for the pregnancy, since I've heard countless times of users knocking up their women. I think the likelihood of it occurring whilst on cycle/HCG/etc is equivalent to having suppressed overall levels during a more or less failed PCT. My .02.
 
There have been people that have recover after longer.. It is person dependent.. For example I can't even fully recover from a single blast. I personally would remain "on" and go for the pregnancy, since I've heard countless times of users knocking up their women. I think the likelihood of it occurring whilst on cycle/HCG/etc is equivalent to having suppressed overall levels during a more or less failed PCT. My .02.
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I agree ! pregnancy while on totally realistic
 
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thank u guys for the responses. other than that could b under dosed RC pct items? usually ug pep is good in my history with them
 
to clarify I waited 1 week after last pin to start pct, so to Idaho yes about 3-4 weeks
 
I feel good that's the strange part ie. energy, mood , well being ... only negative my hot ass girlfriend lays naked and I'd rather watch making a murderer on Netflix :(
 
Get cialis and stay off is my opinion. Yes you can get her pregnant while on but your much more likely to have a child if your not taking steroids that hinder your production. Your numbers suck yeah... They will be worse while on. You haven't given it long enough to say you have given it a shot. I would stay off for 6 months to a year before going back on. Depending on insurance the doc is always around the corner as well...

My opinion

Why don't u try some triptorelin... See if that shit works. I'm about to for same reason as you. Shit is real cheap.

2943 out...
 
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At first glance, you're completely shutdown (LH & FSH essentially zero) after 5 wks from last pin... this would indicate a complete failure of PCT and no hope for you ever to have endogenous production again. However, your test levels while low are not near zero -- 265 is terrible (shoot for 1200 in TRT) but that near-zero LH wouldn't account for it. The problem here is you've been popping dbol. That's suppressive. You've interfered with PCT and therefore we can't draw any conclusions about your eventual natty LH level. Could you recover natty test production of a decent level eventually? We can't know until you go 3+ wks (maybe much longer) with no AAS at all.

Also, waiting one or two weeks from last pin to starting PCT is probably inadequate. It depends on your esters on how high you got your test levels. For test-e or -c (most common case) you have a 5.5 day half life. So if you pumped your cycle up to 8,000 ng/dL then after the final pin you'll be about 4,000 after 5.5 days, 2,000 after 11 days, etc. Your HPTA won't kick in until many days (or weeks, or never if you're really unlucky) after falling below whatever your natty level is. If you're 265 natty, you'd have to wait at least 27 days (5 half lives of the ester) before your HPTA would even notice that the negative feedback hormone levels were below a concern level and now it's time to fire up. Probably at least several days after that. So we're talking a month. If you only went to a more moderate 4,000 ng/dL or so, you're still looking at three weeks before earliest possible HPTA spark. Any PCT drugs before that time are likely wasted, with the exception of HCG to get the testes in gear.

If I were still doing PCT I'd cruise HCG on cycle or blast it for a few weeks before PCT drug time, and not take any clomid/nolva until test levels were low enough for the hypothalamus and pituitary to notice.

In any case, if your natty levels are 500 or below, or hell, 700 or below, I'd TRT instead. :) 1,000-1,200 is going to be a much better life. 250 has already killed your sex drive as you notice. It's also heightening your chances of cardiovascular disease, losing muscle, irritability and depression, etc etc.

Meh, sorry for the lecture.

Have you looking into HMG for fertility? Then you could just cruise and not worry about this PCT shit.
 
I just wanna be back onnnnnnnnnnn fuarkkkkk

Same here... We have entire life to be on. Research triptorelin. Research shows for some patients it can raise test dramatically after one injection. It's a one and done injection for fertility and pct. check it out. Don't go over 100mcg and don't take it with anything else. Read up on it.


2943 out...
 
Sucks but it will come back. I was on gear 2 or 3 years and my wife wanted to have a baby took like 3 or 4 months but it came back
 
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5 weeks post inject from last pin of a long ester testosterone isn't a PCT....the testosterone remains active up to almost 30 days....you need a longer PCT and different ancillaries for PCT...clomid and nolvadex act in a similar fashion on the pituitary and using them together isn't needed...

Best way to PCT is hcg prior to last pin thru the next 2 weeks after pin coupled with arimidex...then after 2 weeks a pyramid of clomid for 4 weeks..

Plenty of people recover after 2 yrs on...but its not gonna happen as fast or efficiently the way your doing it....

Honestly it looks to me that you don't want to come off and are seeking reassurance here to justify going back on....prolonged steroid use does come with a pyhcological dependence for many uses...
 
choclatemalt thanks for reply I will pm you tonight ifnthats ok

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to clarify it wasn't no more than mayb 4 or 5 dbol period only before pre workout (50mg caps) so total 200mg of dbol if dosed properly period
 
I really don't wanna come back on instantly per se but god dam do I love gearz and lifting, but on other hand family and health outweigh that

you guys are the best I mean that. thank you for everyone who chimed in
 
5 weeks post inject from last pin of a long ester testosterone isn't a PCT....the testosterone remains active up to almost 30 days....you need a longer PCT and different ancillaries for PCT...clomid and nolvadex act in a similar fashion on the pituitary and using them together isn't needed...

Best way to PCT is hcg prior to last pin thru the next 2 weeks after pin coupled with arimidex...then after 2 weeks a pyramid of clomid for 4 weeks..

Plenty of people recover after 2 yrs on...but its not gonna happen as fast or efficiently the way your doing it....

Honestly it looks to me that you don't want to come off and are seeking reassurance here to justify going back on....prolonged steroid use does come with a pyhcological dependence for many uses...

^^^^^^^ THIS
I really don't wanna come back on instantly per se but god dam do I love gearz and lifting, but on other hand family and health outweigh that

you guys are the best I mean that. thank you for everyone who chimed in

Health perhaps... Family 100% yes. Give it time brother. Give it time. When you guys get pregnant run a nice long one!!!


2943 out...
 
If it helps I can loan ya some kids....they come with tution , car, cell phone and insurance payments attached..:) )
 
5 weeks post inject from last pin of a long ester testosterone isn't a PCT....the testosterone remains active up to almost 30 days....you need a longer PCT and different ancillaries for PCT...clomid and nolvadex act in a similar fashion on the pituitary and using them together isn't needed...

Isn't there some research showing the both together are synergistic? I'll see if I have the study somewhere in my mess of links...

The clomid is more active than nolva at the hypothalamus & pituitary so that should be used no matter what, if you can stomach it. Nolva is more active at nipples. This is the "Selective" part of SERM for these drugs, in my understanding.

choclatemalt thanks for reply I will pm you tonight ifnthats ok

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to clarify it wasn't no more than mayb 4 or 5 dbol period only before pre workout (50mg caps) so total 200mg of dbol if dosed properly period

Sure man that's fine I'll be glad to help out. But if it's not a private matter, keep it here in this thread if you can... lots of others can learn from the same stuff. Lots of lurkers beyond those of us actively posting.

If it helps I can loan ya some kids....they come with tution , car, cell phone and insurance payments attached..:) )

That is what is so wonderful about this forum and brings a tear to my eye. :cry:
 
I lifted hard the day before, I took a dbol to for a pump to try it, but I don't believe that elevated it that high. thanks for the feedback.

so green light to start blasting again?

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just turned 27 years old tho. so I was hoping I would bounce back

I am in the same boat... Mine hit as low as 190 then leveled off in the 260''s doc has me a script for 200 cyp a week. I'm also trying to have a baby ever since I got off last blast 1 year 3months 13 days 7 hours ago! So now I just cruise and hcg it keeps my sperm count elevated....

Have you had a semen sample taken?


My 103% is better than @Roidboy 500% any day of the fuckin week!
 
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