PSL Bulk, getting big for classic physique

Hey guys,


After my first show, I decided I wanted to compete in classic physique in 2016. For my height that means going from a weight limit of 165 to 185. So, I have some work to do.


Cycle started about 7 weeks ago with non PSL gear and as of 3 weeks ago, has been completely switched to PSL.


Cycle started as:


875mg Test E
350mg NPP
350mg Tren A
140mg Mast E
25mg Proviron pd
Asin as needed
4iu GH M-F, 6iu GH Sat Sun


About 2 weeks in, bumped tren to 500mg.


Two weeks after that, added dbol at 30mg per day. This will be my last weekend on that.


Diet coach had me on a carb cycle at 3000 calories originally, which was bumped to 3500. Then, we've been experimenting (at my request ) with running 3500 calories per day M-F with Sat and Sun being days where I'm not tracking food and being less strict with my diet. After coming out of a show, I was just getting burnt out on being meticulous with my diet and I won't lie, I like to eat.


Training has been based around reverse pyramid. Started M-F, and once Sat and Sun became more open ended diet wise, training switched to 2 x day Sat Sun and then one session M,Tu,Wed.


Before starting the blast, weight was maintaining around 165, now I'm sitting between 195-200. I still can see my abs, shoulder and chest striations, veins on my shoulders, quads, traps, and even on my lats. I feel as though most of the extra fluff I'm carrying is water. I'm very impressed with the results thus far.


PSL was fantastic through the ordering process, shipping went very smoothly as well. Getting ready to place another order for Eurotropin. In another week or so I'll be getting some bloodwork done.


Gear is smooth as ever and I've noticed an increase in vascularity and strength since switching to PSL products. Hell, last nights chest workout included a set of 315 x 10 on flat bench and even that felt easy. Previous PR was 315 x 5 before the cut for my show started.


I'll be keeping you guys updated. TD pics for fun

Before and after pics?

Looks very similar to what I'm about to run.

malfeasance said:

Before and after pics?

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I have a before, obviously not an after because I'm not done. However I do have some pics during. I'll have to edit them up a bit and I'll post.

Grilledcheves08 said:

Looks very similar to what I'm about to run.

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I'm loving this stack, you definitely won't be disappointed.

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Update:

Weight has stalled over the last few weeks at right around 195.

Dropped the dbol weekends ago and upped my dosages to 1000mg test, 500mg tren, 500mg NPP. PIP with these EP products is non-existent.

Pumps are insane and workouts are going well, feeling very focused in the gym.

I switched my leg workouts around a bit as progress had stalled. Was focusing on adding weight to the lifts, which did work for the first 4-5 weeks of the cycle. I noticed I never got much of a pump this way and didn't ever really get that 'I can't walk after leg day' feeling everyone always talks about. I've since focused on higher rep ranges (15-20) with as much weight as I can handle there. Crazy pumps and I barely made it to the car after the first workout. Quad measurement went up last week despite a stall in weight, so I'll take that as a good sign.

I'll be adding anadrol either this weekend or next at 50mg a day. This is a compound I've yet to try, so I'm interested in seeing how it stacks up.

With the mast and proviron, the mental sides of tren seem non-existent. I feel great. Vision was definitely on to something here! I feel it's also helped keep my looking a bit drier and tighter. I'm a fan and I think I'll be including these in low doses in most of my blasts from here out.

Long overdue update incoming.

Still working on the pics, very busy in the last few weeks. Haven't had time to track them down and edit them.

Weight has gone from 195 to 206+ (I record weights every Saturday morning, so I won't know til tomorrow what this week ended at).

Added in Anadrol at 50mg three weeks ago but didn't see much of a change in the first week. Upped to 100mg the last two weeks and weight has been climbing, definitely adding mass. Oddly enough, I haven't seen the massive jumps in strength everyone raves about. The strength from dbol was way better for me.

I had a sinus infection about two weeks ago and that's finally completely gone; regardless I think I only missed one gym session and still managed to shovel down 4k calories even though my appetite was zapped. Between being sick and work and life in general being hectic, I've had to push back getting bloods which I plan to do in the next two weeks.

I started not being able to increase the weight on my lifts weekly; once it gets to a certain point linear progression just goes out the window. To combat this, I've started going for a super high intensity on the first exercise of the day (kinda Dorian Yates style) where I'll go for 4-5 sets at a weight I can get 10-12 reps on and going to near failure each set. THEN, I'll add another set or two with drop sets to add some volume. It's a definite change of pace from what I'm used to, I'm basically smoked after the first lift but continue on to do 4-5 lifts per body part.

The PSL oils have continued to be great, no complaints whatsoever. Despite high levels of test and nandrolone I feel relatively dry and tight. Pumps are out of this world.

The Eurotropin is great also. The carpal tunnel is real, downright painful at times but I'm almost used to it at this point. Despite the amount of training (especially the 2 x day on Sat and Sun) and intensity, I recover very quickly. My sleep is very deep and refreshing and my disposition is generally more agreeable than it was. On the weekends when my diet isn't exactly clean or calorie strict, I feel like I stay just as lean as I was before. GH is basically a miracle drug IMO. If you're looking for a good product at an awesome price to give it a shot, Europtropin is the ticket.

I did recently switch from the Asin back to Adex. I had been having bad headaches and shortness of breath (way worse than what I'd experienced from tren in the past) and my libido was all over the place. I'd been doing some reading where people were complaining that asin did similar things to them. I had some adex on hand so I figured I'd switch and see if it got better. Lo and behold, after few days it's definitely improved. Weird.

Weight only went up by about half a pound last week, so I'm going up to 4700 cal/day.


Today is an off day, thankfully. All I wanted to do for the last two days is sleep. In my experience, when I get very tired like this it usually means I'm growing. So it's not a bad thing, necessarily


I'm not sure if it's the additional weight or size, or a combination of both, but my arms keep falling asleep at night or anytime I'm laying down really. Anyone else have this problem? Any advice?

Your arms or hands fall asleep?

Oldschool said:

Your arms or hands fall asleep?

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At night it's both, kinda the whole thing from shoulder down. Sometimes (like at my desk, using the computer) it's just my hands.

KW1776 said:

Weight has gone from 195 to 206+ (I record weights every Saturday morning, so I won't know til tomorrow what this week ended at).

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How much higher are you going to go before cutting back to 185 or less?

malfeasance said:

How much higher are you going to go before cutting back to 185 or less?

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Good question. The goal is to be as peeled and big as possible at 185. I've definitely added a solid amount of mass, but some of the weight I've put on is also fat/water. My guess is I'll get to 220-225, maintain there for a month or so (cruise), then start cutting.

Update:

Started propping my head up on an extra pillow at night so there is less weight on my shoulder, this seems to be helping with my arms falling asleep but sadly it isn't as comfortable (Maybe I'm just not used to it).

Shoulder workout went well yesterday. Worked up to OHP at 205lb for 5 reps, then backed down to 155lb for four sets of 12. Also added in some face pulls for rear delt/rotator cuff. I actually don't know why I stopped doing these, they make my shoulders feel so much better. Going to be a regular addition.

4700 cals is a lot of food, my appetite is struggling to keep up. There are definitely some meals I don't feel like finishing, but that's just part of the game.

Leg day yesterday. Started by pre-exhausting with leg extensions and laying hamstring curls. Moved onto four sets of safety bar squats. Lower back pumps were in full effect, almost crippling. Ended with single leg, leg presses. Overall it was a pretty good workout. The lower back pumps are so annoying though, they really prevent me from getting to a weight that taxes my legs.

Diet is getting easier to get down by the day; in fact, I woke up hungry this morning which is a change of pace.

Legs weren't sore yesterday morning, but as the day went on it got worse. It's a good feeling, they very rarely get sore.

Didn't end up making it to the gym until very late yesterday and did a decent back workout. Had to workout at a different gym than usual, but on the plus side they had some good hammer strength back machines. Felt pretty good all things considered.

Hunger is creeping back up despite increased calories.

Today is an off day, so I'm going to rest a bit and see Deadpool then back to the grind Saturday

Was crazy busy this weekend/early this week moving. I made it to the gym Saturday and Sunday, but didn't Monday (which is typically an off day anyway) and Tuesday. I'm sure I got plenty of a workout carrying shit up to the third floor of the new place.


Good news was my chest broke 50" Saturday. Bad news is it was insanely hard for me to eat properly MOnday and Tuesday, so we'll see what happens to my weight at the end of the week.


The tren has offically ruined my cardio capability, by the time I got to the third floor carrying shit, I was waaaaaaay out of breath. Hope everyone is having a good week thus far.

Did an arm workout yesterday. Did relatively heavy EZ bar preacher curls supersetted with light straight bar curls. Massive pump.

Forgot to add in the last post: stopped the Anadrol Saturday because I ran out. Feeling a little flat now, missing that constant pumped and fool look and feeling it gave.

Can't decide what to work tonight; it should be shoulders but my right shoulder is a tad sore from sleeping on it wrong Tuesday night and I don't want to aggravate it more. We'll see.

KW1776, get some pics up! Since you are actually going to compete in classic physique, many here would like to see the changes and transformation over time.

malfeasance said:

KW1776, get some pics up! Since you are actually going to compete in classic physique, many here would like to see the changes and transformation over time.

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Sorry brother! I'll get my computer set up this weekend and get some up (I just moved). Plus it'll give me a chance to play around and find some good lighting in the new place.

UPdate:

Ended up doing shoulders last night as my right shoulder was feeling okay. Worked up to two sets of OHP at 185 for 7 and 6 reps, then went for 3 sets of 155 for 12 reps. For lateral raises went with four sets of 12 with 45lbs, on the last two I dropped setted with 27.5lbs for another 10-12. Also added in some abs which I rarely do, worked up and down the weight rack with some rope curls, great burn. I'm actually a little sore today.

I know I've gained a little fat on my chest, but I've had some gyno since I was about 13 or 14 and it's starting to get on my nerves. I think it really negatively affects the shape of my chest and I'm a bit self conscious about it. I've been using ralox but haven't seen much improvement. Considering getting a consultation about surgery. Anyone have any experience?

Alright here are some pics:

This was at 165lbs on a test cruise: http://ibin.co/2XqyTttu6fiI

This was at 185lbs with a pump: http://ibin.co/2Xqyz7eWKVGJ

THis was around 207lbs with a pump: http://ibin.co/2Xqz5gA0ft7B

This was this morning at 212, bloated, horrible pic angle and lighting: http://ibin.co/2XqzE6oUppFO

Crazy busy this weekend, still trying to get the new place setup and finishing getting everything out of the old place. Had great chest and back workouts Saturday, and killed some arms on Sunday. Taking tonight off to prep my meals for the rest of the week. Ready to hit some legs tomorrow. I've been putting it off because my legs, calves particularly, have been a bit sore/tired with all the carrying stuff up 3 flights up steps during the move.

Damn bro! Crazy gains, I'm on the other side. 223 right now, after my lift comp in March I'll be cutting down to about 200-205. Eventually looking at classic unless I end up having to go LHW bb'ing. Kee it up man, I'm watching.

Grilledcheves08 said:

Damn bro! Crazy gains, I'm on the other side. 223 right now, after my lift comp in March I'll be cutting down to about 200-205. Eventually looking at classic unless I end up having to go LHW bb'ing. Kee it up man, I'm watching.

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Thanks, man! At this point I'm starting to miss being lean, so in a way I'm looking forward to getting back to dieting which is weird, never thought I'd say that.

Good luck on your competition!

The change from 165 to 185 (the first two pics) is drastic. Very impressive transformation.

malfeasance said:

The change from 165 to 185 (the first two pics) is drastic. Very impressive transformation.

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Thanks! Oh definitely, I looked and felt night and day. I respond pretty well to AAS. Most of that was simply from hopping on a blast and going from 3000 to 3500 calories. I tend to get fluffy when the calorie intake goes up much more than that, but I guess that's part of the game of getting bigger.

KW1776 said:

Alright here are some pics:

This was at 165lbs on a test cruise: http://ibin.co/2XqyTttu6fiI

This was at 185lbs with a pump: http://ibin.co/2Xqyz7eWKVGJ

THis was around 207lbs with a pump: http://ibin.co/2Xqz5gA0ft7B

This was this morning at 212, bloated, horrible pic angle and lighting: http://ibin.co/2XqzE6oUppFO

Crazy busy this weekend, still trying to get the new place setup and finishing getting everything out of the old place. Had great chest and back workouts Saturday, and killed some arms on Sunday. Taking tonight off to prep my meals for the rest of the week. Ready to hit some legs tomorrow. I've been putting it off because my legs, calves particularly, have been a bit sore/tired with all the carrying stuff up 3 flights up steps during the move.

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You, my friend have some sick potential. Fuck physique..... you're built for BB'ing. Little more on the wheels and you're g2g.

BTC said:

You, my friend have some sick potential. Fuck physique..... you're built for BB'ing. Little more on the wheels and you're g2g.

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Thanks man, I really appreciate that. I agree with what you're saying, I just stand a better chance competing in classic physique this year considering I'll have to compete at 185. Since this is the first year for classic physique, I'm fairly certain more than top 2 at national shows get pro cards as well, so that's part of the idea. Get as big as I can, get peeled down at 185 and try my luck at a national show. If it doesn't work out, oh well, then it's on to put on some more mass and go for BB.

Good plan, pretty much what I'll try to do. I'm 5'10 so 199 or 200lbs at the height I think. If it doesn't or if by the time I'm ready the competitors are looking way different then me I'll just swap to LHW bb'ing

Grilledcheves08 said:

Good plan, pretty much what I'll try to do. I'm 5'10 so 199 or 200lbs at the height I think. If it doesn't or if by the time I'm ready the competitors are looking way different then me I'll just swap to LHW bb'ing

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Exactly. We haven't really seen much of the classic physique category yet, so I'm interested to see how that progresses as the year goes on. But if it doesn't work out, I'll probably just take as long as I need to get into the HW or SHW category.

Very impressed. Even though I'm more in to strength and power training I like to see and learn what everyone is doing, especially those around the same size. I also note the drastic change between 165 and 185. I'm at 170 and I am no where near your physique either direction, but I'm not bbing either....Good Work!!!!

Sierra2500hd said:

Very impressed. Even though I'm more in to strength and power training I like to see and learn what everyone is doing, especially those around the same size. I also note the drastic change between 165 and 185. I'm at 170 and I am no where near your physique either direction, but I'm not bbing either....Good Work!!!!

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Getting show lean was the best thing I ever did for bodybuilding. It skyrockets your insulin sensitivity and primes you for growth so well. All you have to do is be reasonable with your calorie intake and you'll stay pretty lean and grow like a weed. That's pretty much how I got from that 165 to 185. It wasn't until I had to start upping the calories quite a bit that I lost that dry/grainy look. Thanks for the compliments man!

Excellent log man.. If you don't mind me asking, how did you do when you origionally competed..how many shows, how were your placings? Any back shots you could post?