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While this Lab Testing section is most known for lab results reflecting Test, E2 and in some cases growth hormone and IGF-1, I also use lab analysis to see where other markers are for indication of where my health is when blasting or cruising
CURRENT CYCLE
I had been on this cycle for 6 weeks when blood was drawn
Primo-600mg per week
TPA-700mg per week
Proviron-75mg per day
Aromasin-37.5mg per day
I front loaded primo ace for first three weeks
Days 1-5 90mg a day
Days 6-11 60mg a day
Days 12-16 30mg a day
AST/ALT
These numbers came back at 84 and 158 respectively. I am sure most of you know that proviron nor aromasin are methylated compounds, so why is the number so high? A little history, I had taken Lipitor for over 18 years without any issue. A few years back when getting routine analysis of my lipids and liver enzymes my AST/ALT were elevated, more so then current results you see hear. This was before I touched any AAS. So I came off Lipitor and after a few months my AST/ALT were within normal range. So a couple of months ago I was going over my lipids with my doctor and asked if we could try Lipitor again at 10mg a day so we decided to give it a try, and you see the results after 30 days. So once again I am off the Lipitor.
RBC, HEMOGLOBIN, HEMATOCRIT
A little background for this one too. I have been using NPP during blasting and cruising for the joint relief and when blasting for a lean bulk. I had also discovered after looking at all my lab reports over the last year or so that NPP was most likely causing high numbers for these markers. So I stopped the NPP back in early February, gave blood around mid April and had blood drawn in June to see where I am at. These current numbers are a major improvement:
RBC-5.43
Hemoglobin-16.4
Hematocrit-52.1%....out of range (50%)
While hematocrit is out of range it is by far a major improvement along with the other two markers being in range. My doctor looked at a different report that showed Hematocrit at 52.3% and his advice was to give blood and not to worry about being out of range by that small amount, just stay on schedule with blood donation.
I have decided that I may use NPP in future cycles but for shorter blasts, but that is it. NPP is no longer a staple of mine for joint pain relief.
The good news is primo did not elevate these numbers like NPP, plus I like primo over NPP so I have that going for me
GROWTH HORMONE
0.8...............Man that is pathetic!
Why in the hell would a guy my age get analysis for GH? I just had to see if there was any gas in the tank, but obviously my pituitary gland is a shriveled up raisin at this point. I did decide to start using GH, I am currently using 2ius a day and will adjust when needed.
IGF-1
171...........Again, not so good
Not that baseline testing is all that important prior to adding GH but just wanted to see where this is before I started GH.
TESTOSTERONE
For the number everybody is most interested in here it is: 3,040 ng/dl
I need to do a mea culpa here as I have learned a few things and I have made some erroneous past statements. Going back about a year and a half I was able to see a pattern on test levels with TPA. Over a 8-10 month period I would see 6-7 multiplier on my weekly dose. That would mean if I was blasting 700mg a week I would see 4,200-4,900 ng/dl. More recently I have seen wild variations, especially when blasting. So I have reached out to three guys that are way more knowledgeable regarding test levels and timing of blood draw and based on their input I have seen the light. Simply put, timing blood draw properly with the shortest estered test made is like catching a falling knife. I had the very same batch of TPA and had analytical numbers that came in over and under my 6-7 multiplier. So, for all the guys I was selling this method of 24 hour blood draw after last pin and 6-7 multiplier of weekly dose please throw it out with the rest of the bro-science.
In the end, I asked the experts what they thought of 3,040 ng/dl for 700mgs a week and they all agreed that is a good number, and my results during this cycle prove that too.
ESTROGEN
28 pg/ml
A very good number while running 37.5mg a day aromasin.
PRIMO CYCLE COMMENTS
This is the first time I have run primo and AY has the reputation and mass spec to prove hers is legit. Yea, I know, it is expensive but that is primo. Cheap primo is an oxymoron. If you find cheap primo, well, it's not primo.
The primo shot is different, it does not have PIP. The best way I can describe it is 24 hours after the shot it feels like the compound is still there at the injection site. I guess you would call it mild discomfort. Not something that if injected in your quad would stop you from doing legs next day but you will know where yesterdays shot was. This is different to all other AY gear as I do not get that mild discomfort with her other compounds as I do with primo.
I am not sure how guys can run 200mg/ml primo, seems to me that would be a bitch of a shot.
This cycle has been the most productive I have had ever in the 2 1/2 years I have been doing this. Why? Mostly because this is the first time I have had my diet dialed in. At the beginning of this cycle I lost 17 pounds in 4 weeks, mostly water or bloat in the beginning but mostly fat for last couple of weeks and got down to an estimated 12-13% body fat. After that I started bulking and in the last few weeks I have gained 8 pounds of LBM.
So while on this primo cycle I was able to drop 17 pounds then gain 8 and still currently working on bulking. I would say primo is good for either cutting or bulking, but remember diet is key to success.
To use an analogy, using Primo on a shitty diet is like putting nitrous oxide on a Ford Pinto, complete waste of time.
Primo results? The one word that comes to mind is muscle fullness. More rounded and fuller muscles. Vascularity is way up, not sure what if any of it has to do with primo as I was running proviron too.
I will most definitely use primo again, it is a happy drug with no sides to speak of, it is a DHT that is much easier on us older guys and gives a fuller muscle than something like nandrolone.
CURRENT CYCLE
I had been on this cycle for 6 weeks when blood was drawn
Primo-600mg per week
TPA-700mg per week
Proviron-75mg per day
Aromasin-37.5mg per day
I front loaded primo ace for first three weeks
Days 1-5 90mg a day
Days 6-11 60mg a day
Days 12-16 30mg a day
AST/ALT
These numbers came back at 84 and 158 respectively. I am sure most of you know that proviron nor aromasin are methylated compounds, so why is the number so high? A little history, I had taken Lipitor for over 18 years without any issue. A few years back when getting routine analysis of my lipids and liver enzymes my AST/ALT were elevated, more so then current results you see hear. This was before I touched any AAS. So I came off Lipitor and after a few months my AST/ALT were within normal range. So a couple of months ago I was going over my lipids with my doctor and asked if we could try Lipitor again at 10mg a day so we decided to give it a try, and you see the results after 30 days. So once again I am off the Lipitor.
RBC, HEMOGLOBIN, HEMATOCRIT
A little background for this one too. I have been using NPP during blasting and cruising for the joint relief and when blasting for a lean bulk. I had also discovered after looking at all my lab reports over the last year or so that NPP was most likely causing high numbers for these markers. So I stopped the NPP back in early February, gave blood around mid April and had blood drawn in June to see where I am at. These current numbers are a major improvement:
RBC-5.43
Hemoglobin-16.4
Hematocrit-52.1%....out of range (50%)
While hematocrit is out of range it is by far a major improvement along with the other two markers being in range. My doctor looked at a different report that showed Hematocrit at 52.3% and his advice was to give blood and not to worry about being out of range by that small amount, just stay on schedule with blood donation.
I have decided that I may use NPP in future cycles but for shorter blasts, but that is it. NPP is no longer a staple of mine for joint pain relief.
The good news is primo did not elevate these numbers like NPP, plus I like primo over NPP so I have that going for me
GROWTH HORMONE
0.8...............Man that is pathetic!
Why in the hell would a guy my age get analysis for GH? I just had to see if there was any gas in the tank, but obviously my pituitary gland is a shriveled up raisin at this point. I did decide to start using GH, I am currently using 2ius a day and will adjust when needed.
IGF-1
171...........Again, not so good
Not that baseline testing is all that important prior to adding GH but just wanted to see where this is before I started GH.
TESTOSTERONE
For the number everybody is most interested in here it is: 3,040 ng/dl
I need to do a mea culpa here as I have learned a few things and I have made some erroneous past statements. Going back about a year and a half I was able to see a pattern on test levels with TPA. Over a 8-10 month period I would see 6-7 multiplier on my weekly dose. That would mean if I was blasting 700mg a week I would see 4,200-4,900 ng/dl. More recently I have seen wild variations, especially when blasting. So I have reached out to three guys that are way more knowledgeable regarding test levels and timing of blood draw and based on their input I have seen the light. Simply put, timing blood draw properly with the shortest estered test made is like catching a falling knife. I had the very same batch of TPA and had analytical numbers that came in over and under my 6-7 multiplier. So, for all the guys I was selling this method of 24 hour blood draw after last pin and 6-7 multiplier of weekly dose please throw it out with the rest of the bro-science.
In the end, I asked the experts what they thought of 3,040 ng/dl for 700mgs a week and they all agreed that is a good number, and my results during this cycle prove that too.
ESTROGEN
28 pg/ml
A very good number while running 37.5mg a day aromasin.
PRIMO CYCLE COMMENTS
This is the first time I have run primo and AY has the reputation and mass spec to prove hers is legit. Yea, I know, it is expensive but that is primo. Cheap primo is an oxymoron. If you find cheap primo, well, it's not primo.
The primo shot is different, it does not have PIP. The best way I can describe it is 24 hours after the shot it feels like the compound is still there at the injection site. I guess you would call it mild discomfort. Not something that if injected in your quad would stop you from doing legs next day but you will know where yesterdays shot was. This is different to all other AY gear as I do not get that mild discomfort with her other compounds as I do with primo.
I am not sure how guys can run 200mg/ml primo, seems to me that would be a bitch of a shot.
This cycle has been the most productive I have had ever in the 2 1/2 years I have been doing this. Why? Mostly because this is the first time I have had my diet dialed in. At the beginning of this cycle I lost 17 pounds in 4 weeks, mostly water or bloat in the beginning but mostly fat for last couple of weeks and got down to an estimated 12-13% body fat. After that I started bulking and in the last few weeks I have gained 8 pounds of LBM.
So while on this primo cycle I was able to drop 17 pounds then gain 8 and still currently working on bulking. I would say primo is good for either cutting or bulking, but remember diet is key to success.
To use an analogy, using Primo on a shitty diet is like putting nitrous oxide on a Ford Pinto, complete waste of time.
Primo results? The one word that comes to mind is muscle fullness. More rounded and fuller muscles. Vascularity is way up, not sure what if any of it has to do with primo as I was running proviron too.
I will most definitely use primo again, it is a happy drug with no sides to speak of, it is a DHT that is much easier on us older guys and gives a fuller muscle than something like nandrolone.
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