Thanks for the info, really gave me an insight, your dear right about the cals and protein, I haven't tried this and from this good info I wont be doing it.. I will stick to my tried and true tested diet, yes that was me in the avatar after a hard cut from the Pharmalogic transformation, I put on quit a few more pounds since then but I am in another cutting challenge for GR AAS, luckily for me I know my body pretty well and what I can eat to gain and what not to eat to loose, once again thanks fellas for the good info!!