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Taking cialis everyday for hbp?

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This is my first run with tren, I'm running tren for 8 weeks, the first 3 I worked up to 200mg I then upped to 275mg for the next 2 weeks. My last 3 weeks I want to up again to 350mg with my test at 250mg/wk. My bp was at 140/80 which is a little high, however my bp varies a lot. Since I'm upping my tren I don't want to get my bp much higher. I have a good amount of cialis and I was wondering if I were to take a smaller dose ed if it would be good to help with hbp from tren. Has anyone used this? Thanks guys!
 
I'm loving tren btw! Having crazy dreams and sweating my ass off
 
That will only make your BP issue worse. On top of that, you'll learn what a priapism is. Don't do it.
 
Cialis at 5-10mg Ed is good for BP and hardons. Make sure you are checking your BP right though. Are your arms too big for the cuff you are using? Are you taking multiple readings and doing it right. Those things matter as you get bigger. Donating blood also helps some.
 
Damgar said:
Cialis at 5-10mg Ed is good for BP and hardons. Make sure you are checking your BP right though. Are your arms too big for the cuff you are using? Are you taking multiple readings and doing it right. Those things matter as you get bigger. Donating blood also helps some.
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I agree. .:winkfinger:
 
Sildenafil citrate (Viagra - Pfizer) was a pharmaceutical blunder while searching for a hypotension (LOW blood pressure) medication. Turned out to do the opposite, jacking up BP and giving people hardons. Taldalafil citrate ( Cialis - Lilly) copied enough to have their own but not infringe copyright.

I'm wrong about everything else, have at it.

Oh, a priapism is an erection that lasts more than 4 hours.
 
Mad.Hatter said:
Sildenafil citrate (Viagra - Pfizer) was a pharmaceutical blunder while searching for a hypotension (LOW blood pressure) medication. Turned out to do the opposite, jacking up BP and giving people hardons. Taldalafil citrate ( Cialis - Lilly) copied enough to have their own but not infringe copyright.

I'm wrong about everything else, have at it.

Oh, a priapism is an erection that lasts more than 4 hours.
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It could cause a priapism, but it does not raise bp. That is why your not suppose to take it with other bp meds. It says in commercial could cause unsafe drop in bp.
 
I am not an expert on this and let me know if I am wrong but.......

The way I read it, Cialis was a flop in dropping BP as it had minimal results in lowering BP, but the side effect was erections.

Therefore it became a drug for erectile dysfunction not BP management.
 
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Skip Foursome said:
I am not an expert on this and let me know if I am wrong but.......

The way I read it, Cialis was a flop in dropping BP as it had minimal results in lowering BP, but the side effect was erections.

Therefore it became a drug for erectile dysfunction not BP management.
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That's my understanding too. Good results on lowering pulmonary artery pressure (which almost no one needs) and keeping blood flow going longer in the penis (fucking awesome / awesome fucking), but minimal effects on BP overall.

One person claims 20 point BP drop while on. Maybe an outlier? Pretty phenomenal result for a rejected BP med though.
 
chocolatemalt said:
That's my understanding too. Good results on lowering pulmonary artery pressure (which almost no one needs) and keeping blood flow going longer in the penis (fucking awesome / awesome fucking), but minimal effects on BP overall.

One person claims 20 point BP drop while on. Maybe an outlier? Pretty phenomenal result for a rejected BP med though.
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From my reading I saw an average 6 point drop in BP. Not impressive at all.
 
symtex said:
It could cause a priapism, but it does not raise bp. That is why your not suppose to take it with other bp meds. It says in commercial could cause unsafe drop in bp.
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Citations? .ORG or .GOV preferably, not uneducated opinions on a steroid board.
 
Correct sir........also proof enough for is it lower my bp not drastically but enough to STOP headache and get me out of redzone ......so Im a believer .......I can run 2 compounds , but once I add that 3rd one I feel it rising .....
Skip Foursome said:
I am not an expert on this and let me know if I am wrong but.......

The way I read it, Cialis was a flop in dropping BP as it had minimal results in lowering BP, but the side effect was erections.

Therefore it became a drug for erectile dysfunction not BP management.
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When I have an erection lasting more than 4 hours I sexually assault my wife over and over. Afterward my BP drops significantly as I drift off to sleep.......
 
I should measure mine, with cialis and AAS.

I will say this. When my girlfriend came back from vacation I was about 8 weeks into currently cycle, Large amounts of AAS. I took sildenafil and tadalafil one day, when I thought I was going to have sex and didn't.. Later on that night, walking around feeling like I was going to drop. BP measured in at 110/44 and 105/46. Water, sodium, caffeine remained all the same. Pulse was fine, but boy did I over do it..
 
J Am Coll Cardiol. 2012 Aug 21;60(8):768-74. doi: 10.1016/j.jacc.2012.05.004. Epub 2012 Jul 18.

Tadalafil for the treatment of pulmonary arterial hypertension: a double-blind 52-week uncontrolled extension study.

Oudiz RJ, Brundage BH, Gali? N, Ghofrani HA, Simonneau G, Botros FT, Chan M, Beardsworth A, Barst RJ; PHIRST Study Group.

Source
Los Angeles Biomedical Research Institute at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, Torrance, CA, USA. roudiz@labiomed.org

Abstract

OBJECTIVES:
The aim of this study was to evaluate the long-term safety and durability of efficacy of tadalafil for pulmonary arterial hypertension.

BACKGROUND:
Tadalafil is an oral phosphodiesterase-5 inhibitor approved for PAH treatment. In the multicenter, placebo-controlled, randomized, 16-week PHIRST (Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension and Response to Tadalafil) study, tadalafil 40 mg improved exercise capacity and delayed clinical worsening.

METHODS:
Eligible patients from PHIRST received once-daily tadalafil 20 mg (T20 mg) or 40 mg (T40 mg) (n = 357) in the double-blind, 52-week, uncontrolled extension study (PHIRST-2); 293 patients completed PHIRST-2. Durability of efficacy was explored using the 6-min walk distance (6MWD) test. Clinical worsening and changes in World Health Organization functional class were evaluated.

RESULTS:
The safety profile of tadalafil in PHIRST-2 was similar to that in PHIRST, with typical phosphodiesterase-5 inhibitor adverse events. The 6MWDs achieved in PHIRST for the subset of patients receiving T20 mg and T40 mg in both PHIRST and PHIRST-2 (406 ? 67 m [n = 52] and 413 ? 81 m [n = 59] at PHIRST-2 enrollment, respectively) were maintained at PHIRST-2 completion (415 ? 80 m [n = 51] and 410 ? 78 m [n = 59], respectively). Numerically fewer patients who were on T40 mg in PHIRST and PHIRST-2 experienced World Health Organization functional class deterioration (6% [n = 5]) compared with those randomized to T20 mg (9% [n = 7]) across both studies. Post hoc analyses showed that background bosentan use and higher 6MWD at PHIRST baseline were associated with fewer clinical worsening events.

CONCLUSIONS:
Long-term treatment with tadalafil was well tolerated in patients with pulmonary arterial hypertension. In patients receiving either T20 mg or T40 mg, the improvements in 6MWD demonstrated in the 16-week PHIRST study appeared sustained for up to 52 additional weeks of treatment in PHIRST-2. (Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension and Response to Tadalafil Study; NCT00549302).

Copyright 2012 American College of Cardiology Foundation. Published by Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

PMID: 22818063 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
twistedgto said:
Correct sir........also proof enough for is it lower my bp not drastically but enough to STOP headache and get me out of redzone ......so Im a believer .......I can run 2 compounds , but once I add that 3rd one I feel it rising .....
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I also experienced the lessening of headaches. However I just gave my pint of blood and the hunger pangs have set in so don't pay attention to anything I say for the rest of the day. To celebrate myast tren injection and blood donation "cheeseburger" is the only word I really understand at the moment.
 
Damgar said:
I also experienced the lessening of headaches. However I just gave my pint of blood and the hunger pangs have set in so don't pay attention to anything I say for the rest of the day. To celebrate myast tren injection and blood donation "cheeseburger" is the only word I really understand at the moment.
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Every time I donate I drive to the nearest cheeseburger joint. Its my ritual.
 
heavyiron said:


CONCLUSIONS:
Long-term treatment with tadalafil was well tolerated in patients with pulmonary arterial hypertension. In patients receiving either T20 mg or T40 mg, the improvements in 6MWD demonstrated in the 16-week PHIRST study appeared sustained for up to 52 additional weeks of treatment in PHIRST-2. (Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension and Response to Tadalafil Study; NCT00549302).
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You don't understand a thing in what you cited.

"Was well tolerated" ... Doesn't say it reduced it. Just sayin. Have any double blind studies where the pool was on heavy doses of AAS, especially trenbolone or heavy 17aa orals?

Ouch. Swing that ban hammer and feel good about yourselves.
 
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Mad.Hatter said:
You don't understand a thing in what you cited.

"Was well tolerated" ... Doesn't say it reduced it. Just sayin. Have any double blind studies where the pool was on heavy doses of AAS, especially trenbolone or heavy 17aa orals?

Ouch. Swing that ban hammer and feel good about yourselves.
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The tren is strong in this one.
 
U mad? We just want to have friendly conversation
 
Mad.Hatter said:
You don't understand a thing in what you cited.

"Was well tolerated" ... Doesn't say it reduced it. Just sayin. Have any double blind studies where the pool was on heavy doses of AAS, especially trenbolone or heavy 17aa orals?

Ouch. Swing that ban hammer and feel good about yourselves.
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Haha, not sure you understand my position......btw, bannings are gay.....
 
Mad.Hatter said:
You don't understand a thing in what you cited.

"Was well tolerated" ... Doesn't say it reduced it. Just sayin. Have any double blind studies where the pool was on heavy doses of AAS, especially trenbolone or heavy 17aa orals?

Ouch. Swing that ban hammer and feel good about yourselves.
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Really? There are no double blind studies of any drug on heavy AAS users, whether they use tren or not. Asking for one is sheer stupidity.

I'd also posit you don't know what 'well tolerated' means.
 
heavyiron said:
J Am Coll Cardiol. 2012 Aug 21;60(8):768-74. doi: 10.1016/j.jacc.2012.05.004. Epub 2012 Jul 18.

Tadalafil for the treatment of pulmonary arterial hypertension: a double-blind 52-week uncontrolled extension study.

Oudiz RJ, Brundage BH, Gali? N, Ghofrani HA, Simonneau G, Botros FT, Chan M, Beardsworth A, Barst RJ; PHIRST Study Group.

Source
Los Angeles Biomedical Research Institute at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, Torrance, CA, USA. roudiz@labiomed.org

Abstract

OBJECTIVES:
The aim of this study was to evaluate the long-term safety and durability of efficacy of tadalafil for pulmonary arterial hypertension.

BACKGROUND:
Tadalafil is an oral phosphodiesterase-5 inhibitor approved for PAH treatment. In the multicenter, placebo-controlled, randomized, 16-week PHIRST (Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension and Response to Tadalafil) study, tadalafil 40 mg improved exercise capacity and delayed clinical worsening.

METHODS:
Eligible patients from PHIRST received once-daily tadalafil 20 mg (T20 mg) or 40 mg (T40 mg) (n = 357) in the double-blind, 52-week, uncontrolled extension study (PHIRST-2); 293 patients completed PHIRST-2. Durability of efficacy was explored using the 6-min walk distance (6MWD) test. Clinical worsening and changes in World Health Organization functional class were evaluated.

RESULTS:
The safety profile of tadalafil in PHIRST-2 was similar to that in PHIRST, with typical phosphodiesterase-5 inhibitor adverse events. The 6MWDs achieved in PHIRST for the subset of patients receiving T20 mg and T40 mg in both PHIRST and PHIRST-2 (406 ? 67 m [n = 52] and 413 ? 81 m [n = 59] at PHIRST-2 enrollment, respectively) were maintained at PHIRST-2 completion (415 ? 80 m [n = 51] and 410 ? 78 m [n = 59], respectively). Numerically fewer patients who were on T40 mg in PHIRST and PHIRST-2 experienced World Health Organization functional class deterioration (6% [n = 5]) compared with those randomized to T20 mg (9% [n = 7]) across both studies. Post hoc analyses showed that background bosentan use and higher 6MWD at PHIRST baseline were associated with fewer clinical worsening events.

CONCLUSIONS:
Long-term treatment with tadalafil was well tolerated in patients with pulmonary arterial hypertension. In patients receiving either T20 mg or T40 mg, the improvements in 6MWD demonstrated in the 16-week PHIRST study appeared sustained for up to 52 additional weeks of treatment in PHIRST-2. (Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension and Response to Tadalafil Study; NCT00549302).

Copyright 2012 American College of Cardiology Foundation. Published by Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

PMID: 22818063 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Slogging through the medical gobbledygook it sounds to me like they're saying the Tadalafil crowd didn't feel quite as shitty as the placebo crowd at the end of the trial. Can't imagine a much weaker finding. I thought there was a better study out there showing a stronger result but I'm too lazy to look. Time for another cup o' Bali...
 
Mad.Hatter said:
You don't understand a thing in what you cited.

"Was well tolerated" ... Doesn't say it reduced it. Just sayin. Have any double blind studies where the pool was on heavy doses of AAS, especially trenbolone or heavy 17aa orals?

Ouch. Swing that ban hammer and feel good about yourselves.
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Where's your double blind studies for all the cycles you take, you dumb fuck :jerkit:
 
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