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To all the Sponsors on this board, I in no way intended to call any of you out regarding the hgh Bluetop responses I have received nor did I hide my intension to question any of you regarding your sources, prices and quality. If I stirred anything up regarding the Hgh BlueTop issue, I am sorry. I really am and am not questioning the integrity of your business or the quality of any products you provide. I was just simply stating a common trend that I was seeing and wanted to let some of the people on this board now.
 
There's nothing wrong with throwing a generic "bullshit" out there to them. Those with the goods should have nothing to worry about and those that over reacted to your observations/research, you might want to look twice before you leap...
 
I get where Roids is coming from. Lets face it if your gonna buy HGH, you def. want to make sure it's top notch because that stuffs not cheap.
 
I misinterpreted his post and posted a comment. I realize he was not bashing us and thank him for his contributions to this board and looking out for everyone.

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ek doesn't have bluetops for this reason...hyge's, jins, and yellows only
 
ek doesn't have bluetops for this reason...hyge's, jins, and yellows only

So if a source throws a different color cap on the vial instead of a blue cap it's gtg?

It doesnt matter what color the cap is on the clear glass vial, it all boils down to finding a legit supplier of gh. We used to sell yellow tops too but guess what? The last batch turned out to be bunk and we suffered for it. Testing is the only way to tell if a supplier is selling good gh or not. We can say the same thing as the other sources...."all of our gh is the best out there" but it looks a lot more believable if we have actual customers backing up our claims with their own blood work.
 
So if a source throws a different color cap on the vial instead of a blue cap it's gtg?

It doesnt matter what color the cap is on the clear glass vial, it all boils down to finding a legit supplier of gh. We used to sell yellow tops too but guess what? The last batch turned out to be bunk and we suffered for it. Testing is the only way to tell if a supplier is selling good gh or not. We can say the same thing as the other sources...."all of our gh is the best out there" but it looks a lot more believable if we have actual customers backing up our claims with their own blood work.

EK does have the labs to back their products
 
EK does have the labs to back their products

EK has a good rep....did someone say he was selling fake gh? My point was, it doesnt matter what color the cap is....it is still generic gh. The problem comes down to finding a legit source that sells real generic gh.
 
No, no disrespect to Irish or EK. I was making an issue out of him saying they only carry yellow tops instead of blues. Again, it all boils down to using a source that sells real gh in their vials regardless of the color of the cap. If he has labs to back it up, that's great! We are in the process of doing what he is doing....getting labs to back up our blue tops.
 
EK has a good rep....did someone say he was selling fake gh? My point was, it doesnt matter what color the cap is....it is still generic gh. The problem comes down to finding a legit source that sells real generic gh.

no i was just posting that it's not us is all...
 
Yeah I don't get how there is even sure h a thing as blue tops really liked they all have something in common with each other. Anything g. An have a blue top some could be great some could be shit his can they be classified by the top color?
 
I don't even look at tops or names anymore.All I care about is what dosing is " supposed" to be-and what member actually gets.Blood testing is one great way to tell this-and also how said sponsor handles a complaint.That said-I have also seen complete BS complaints-so one would have to see a trend-not just one or two complaining.People respond different to testing-so helps to know this information also.Thanks-OD
 
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I have seen this discussion played out in many forums for many years and I will no doubt see it again many more times. The rGH market is lucrative and there is incentive to counterfit this product. True rHG is extremely hard to synthesize and very expensive to the end user. The two posts I have made here show Pharma branded and Chinese generics. Please direct your attention to the size of the cake in the vial. The Serostim pharma product has a very small cake and is dosed at 6mg or 18iu after dilution. The generic is dosed at 10iu or 3.33mg predilution. There is no arguement that anyone on any board or any source can make to deny this. So it is obvious that the generic vial contains something other than rGH, the question is how much of the rGH is mixed with the filler. The real dilema is how to know this, obviously testing is the answer. Unless you have tested Pharmaceutical rHG and know what your baseline is at a particular dose you can not accurately establish if another product is achieving the same results. I have used prescribed rGh for many years and have been tested very strictly by my physician and have a very strong knowledge of how my body reacts and what levels are attained at specified doses. I have also used a large variety of generics as well and I have come to a conclusion. Most generic products are not dosed at the level that is claimed,regardless of the top color or the product name, and yes I also mean Novos, Hyges and Rips. The key to success in my research has been testing and communication with the supplier of the results. I have found some legitimate sources of many varieties of "brands" and I continue to use them. The ones that have been proven to myself to be less than such do not get my money. This is all you can do.
 
For what it's worth, I'm attaching a pic of the serum test done on our gh by a member of another forum I sent a kit to a few months ago. The color of the caps is purely cosmetic. My supplier told me that they could put any color caps I wanted on them and even come up with a fancy brand name and labels if I wanted to. But all that mattered to me was what was inside of the vials, and that's all that should matter to the buyer. The term "blue tops" really is meaningless these days, 90% of hgh coming out of China has a blue top on it, some of it is good, and some of it is junk, the color of the top is not the reason either way. I stand behind my gh to the point that anyone who buys from us and has a serum test done to post the results on any forum will be given a credit towards their next order for the total expense of the testing.
 

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I have seen this discussion played out in many forums for many years and I will no doubt see it again many more times. The rGH market is lucrative and there is incentive to counterfit this product. True rHG is extremely hard to synthesize and very expensive to the end user. The two posts I have made here show Pharma branded and Chinese generics. Please direct your attention to the size of the cake in the vial. The Serostim pharma product has a very small cake and is dosed at 6mg or 18iu after dilution. The generic is dosed at 10iu or 3.33mg predilution. There is no arguement that anyone on any board or any source can make to deny this. So it is obvious that the generic vial contains something other than rGH, the question is how much of the rGH is mixed with the filler. The real dilema is how to know this, obviously testing is the answer. Unless you have tested Pharmaceutical rHG and know what your baseline is at a particular dose you can not accurately establish if another product is achieving the same results. I have used prescribed rGh for many years and have been tested very strictly by my physician and have a very strong knowledge of how my body reacts and what levels are attained at specified doses. I have also used a large variety of generics as well and I have come to a conclusion. Most generic products are not dosed at the level that is claimed,regardless of the top color or the product name, and yes I also mean Novos, Hyges and Rips. The key to success in my research has been testing and communication with the supplier of the results. I have found some legitimate sources of many varieties of "brands" and I continue to use them. The ones that have been proven to myself to be less than such do not get my money. This is all you can do.

Nice post bro.
 
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New to this forum. Please be patient with the newbie and you might find I fall into a different "group" than you are used to seeing here. A. Yes...I am life long lifter....wrestler, footballer, powerlifter....those are all good reasons to be interested in all you have to say.... but I am looking for one thing. I am in a group of disabled veterans that is using alternative means to treat ourselves. The V.A. system has great surgeons...poor specialists in general medicine and more often than not...awful specialists we are referrred too. Long story short...I am looking for a legitimate...qualified ....reasonably price distributor of Swiss made Serostim. That is what we have gotten the most benefit from ...the V.A. does prescribe hgh...but only if you are gay and or hgh positive....not helpful at all to the rest of us. Also if anyone knows of someone who sells the great peptides that Ergopharms makes...I understand with "tag off" no bad side affects. I appreciate some of the great talk and opinions here....thanks for your help. Doc Bee
 
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