First test e cycle & no libido

im in the 4th week of my first test e cycle and everythings feel great except my libido is gone.
I wanted to start low and not to add any orals or anything to see how i react to test.

12 weeks on 250mg/week
The first two weeks i did 500mg.

What can be the cause of my total libido loss?
What should i do about it?
I use no AI cause my test dose is so low.
But can elevated levels of estrogen be the cause?
Will a low dose of Adex (0.25mg eod)
solve it?
Or could it be high prolactin?
Should i get Caber?

I have Proviron but ive tried that for 5 days at 50mg/day and no difference at all.
The reason im careful with AI is because i killed my libido in the past with ATD.
Will Erase (17-Dione) help lower my estrogen enough? or is there no use for otc AI on test cycles?

Thanks to anyone how can help me with this.
Btw bp and everything else is good as far as i know.

Not sounding good. You should be hitting anything with four lips. Get bloods - I suspect bunk gear ?

My T is well over 1500 and my E2 is 10 as labs just drawn
I do NOT have a massive increase in libido either, and my labs prove no bunk gear
Maybe I'm gay? nahhhhhhh
But seriously, I was wondering the same thing

Increased libido is not something everybody gets, necessarily.

Elevated estro can be a reason. If so a little AI can help. Probably not prolactin.

Time for a blood test.

Thanks for quick response.
The gear is from a good source with verification code on it.
What surprice me is that not even Proviron helps.
If an AI wont solve i might have to get a new girlfriend
Bloodwork is something to consider absolutely. To bad its not that easy to get bloodwork done here in Sweden.
If you ask for bloodwork to see if your test is low they just give you Cialis and tell you to see a shrink to solve it.

Shoot the cialis this way

theestone said:

Increased libido is not something everybody gets, necessarily.

Elevated estro can be a reason. If so a little AI can help. Probably not prolactin.

Time for a blood test.

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Interesting

The one test cycle I have done that was the case with me, I expected more of an increase, didn't get too much more...then my E2 got high and that was that.

First. Why did you start at 500mg then go down to 250mg.

Second. Dropping and raising dosages will give you a roller coaster ride due to your hormones raising then lowering.

Third. You can guess and speculate all you want but blood work is a must. I bet your E2 is high. What's your body fat?

Fourth. It's your first cycle and you don't know how your body reacts to Test and you don't use an AI. That's Smart.

I went through my entire 16 weeks on test with a pretty non-existent libido. My estrogen had been floating around the ~50 mark for 2/3 of that time, and the final 1/3 it was ~30; no significant change in sex drive. I was also on under-dosed test the entire time so that could be the factor as well. Surprisingly enough my libido has sky-rocketed since beginning PCT. Grab some Cialis and pound away.

High/low E2 causes me more sex problems than low t did honestly. A 10 is ridiculously low for me and I would feel like dog ass. My labs the last two weeks E2 has been 100 and 80 while on 300/wk. I was perfectly capable of performing, and was plenty horny, but felt much better within 8 hours of restarting adex and could suddenly cum again without it taking 4 hours and brain hemorrhage.

There are a lot of factors to libido. Hi/lo e2, hi/lo T, training too hard, dieting too hard, lots of things can interfere. I would start with bloodwork and go from there. It's very possible at the doses you are running that you have shit gear with just enough hormone to shut you down.

IdahoRally said:

I went through my entire 16 weeks on test with a pretty non-existent libido. My estrogen had been floating around the ~50 mark for 2/3 of that time, and the final 1/3 it was ~30; no significant change in sex drive. I was also on under-dosed test the entire time so that could be the factor as well. Surprisingly enough my libido has sky-rocketed since beginning PCT. Grab some Cialis and pound away.

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My libido is higher on a cruise after the initial drop in levels. I'm more sexually aggressive on blast, but that itch I just canmt scratch is worse on cruise.

Very odd indeed.. I do agree with you on the high e2 levels in regards to busting a nut. I would run out of energy/breath from slamming away before I could get it accomplished a lot of the time, the careful balancing act of acting like an all-star fuck and not hurting the gals feelings that she can't, "get me off." That was definitely alleviated with the dropped e2 levels. I do think also that perhaps the massive amounts of Exemestane I was required to take to keep the E2 at bay reduced my libido.

Hope you get it figured out OP, once again, Cialis all the way!

Daniel808 said:

im in the 4th week of my first test e cycle and everythings feel great except my libido is gone.
I wanted to start low and not to add any orals or anything to see how i react to test.

12 weeks on 250mg/week
The first two weeks i did 500mg.

What can be the cause of my total libido loss?
What should i do about it?
I use no AI cause my test dose is so low.
But can elevated levels of estrogen be the cause?
Will a low dose of Adex (0.25mg eod)
solve it?
Or could it be high prolactin?
Should i get Caber?

I have Proviron but ive tried that for 5 days at 50mg/day and no difference at all.
The reason im careful with AI is because i killed my libido in the past with ATD.
Will Erase (17-Dione) help lower my estrogen enough? or is there no use for otc AI on test cycles?

Thanks to anyone how can help me with this.
Btw bp and everything else is good as far as i know.

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you should be running test E around 500 - 750MGs. At 250MGs your are at a TRT dose. you shouldnt have dropped your dose you should have went up and you need and AI.
It takes 4 weeks for enthenate to build up in your system and start kicking in, by running test you shut down your natural production and at 500MGs your body is trying to balance itself by raising estro, now that you are at 250 which is basically replacing your natural production with your estro still raised.
I hope you have an AI on hand, if so add it start running adex at .25 ED and raise your test back up to 500 - 750 weekly

I feel bad when i hear guys complaining about there ED.When i am on juice i turn into a fucken porn star and nail everything that moves.........

Yea what BIGVNYC says times 10. When I ran straight test the next night I'm standing up like a flag pole in the middle of the night after I pinn. I turn into a sexual beast. And getting up in the morning to take a piss is the hardest punn intended lol. Double piss stream

From what i have red on forums 250mg/w or e5d is a good dosage for a first cycle.
Exemple: http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums/steroid-articles/51598-low-dose-steroid-cycles-truth-myth

I dont take an AI because it wont be neccessary on that low dose,from what i have heard.
But now i will add Adex to see if my libido goes up.

Just as a follow up guys. I ran bloods - was shut the fuck down even on Dbol . Ha ha ain't life fun? Jumped on my emergency Clomid 50 mg a day , and 20 mg a day of Nolva. It's a couple weeks later and I feel good ? Actually good ! Never be afraid to try PCT no matter how old you are. Stay strong guys !

Sorry guys , I posted this in the wrong thread - my bad - carry on.

Don't lower the mg...stay at 500....

I don't have any of those problems. I am on 750 mg test-e a week(1.5 ml every 72 hours) not on any ai and I am on week 5. I pin quads and found that my left leg hates it. some unknown reason I get terrible pip and swelling just in my left leg never the right. only thing I noticed is my cum is thick like elmers glue. lol volume is actually more, girl friend bitches she has to chew before she swallows lol. any one else run into this?

Daniel808 said:

im in the 4th week of my first test e cycle and everythings feel great except my libido is gone.
I wanted to start low and not to add any orals or anything to see how i react to test.

12 weeks on 250mg/week
The first two weeks i did 500mg.

What can be the cause of my total libido loss?
What should i do about it?
I use no AI cause my test dose is so low.
But can elevated levels of estrogen be the cause?
Will a low dose of Adex (0.25mg eod)
solve it?
Or could it be high prolactin?
Should i get Caber?

I have Proviron but ive tried that for 5 days at 50mg/day and no difference at all.
The reason im careful with AI is because i killed my libido in the past with ATD.
Will Erase (17-Dione) help lower my estrogen enough? or is there no use for otc AI on test cycles?

Thanks to anyone how can help me with this.
Btw bp and everything else is good as far as i know.

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You are running test. I haven't heard of prolactin/progesterone issues developing from test. That is more of a 19 nor issue, which you are not running. Caber is not the answer.

The 250 per week is kind of low. Everyone will recommend 500 per week. I'm sure you can benefit from 250 a week, but how much compared to an accepted bottom line dose of 500 is the question. Once you get done running this one, try 500 for your next cycle so you know. I think it would be best to just jump to 500 altogether.

The 500 for the first two weeks seems like an attempt at a front load. You only do double the dose you plan on running for the rest of your cycle in the first week to accomplish this. What you did was get your levels relatively high and now you will be regressing for about 5 weeks until they get to where they should optimally be for running 250 per week. Not a big deal in fluctuation. This would be more of an issue at higher doses, so not much of a worry.

250 per week still may require an AI. It is a small dose, but that doesn't mean your E2 levels will stay the same as they were before you started pinning. They will obviously climb. Search the internet for side effects related to high or low estrogen. What you are saying sounds like high E2 to me. Damgar gave the best advice about getting bloods to really know. You can post those and let some of these guys evaluate. If you decide not too, I think .25 adex EOD would be good for your cycle as a start. If you see no changes increase to .5. If nothing, I would start looking for more answers. You can also try Aromasin. Lots of guys prefer one or the other. Just pick one and experiment.

Daniel808 said:

From what i have red on forums 250mg/w or e5d is a good dosage for a first cycle.
Exemple: http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums/steroid-articles/51598-low-dose-steroid-cycles-truth-myth

I dont take an AI because it wont be neccessary on that low dose,from what i have heard.
But now i will add Adex to see if my libido goes up.

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I hope you found this to be addressed already from above.

Don't read one guys post and assume he is the end of discussion. Things I said will most likely be debated by others, but that is good. That just helps you learn to ask the right questions that will enable you to research. Absolutely everyone that is on here that offers advice other than the typical, you should have known what you were doing, learned from spending hours upon hours of searching for simple things. Nobody told us what we know.

I also had some ED issues with my first cycle. I don't know why, because when I run the same gear now, I don't have those problems at all. Your dick isn't permanently broken. Find some Cialis or Viagra in the meantime and use smaller doses because it doesn't take much and you should be good

Daniel808 said:

From what i have red on forums 250mg/w or e5d is a good dosage for a first cycle.
Exemple: http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums/steroid-articles/51598-low-dose-steroid-cycles-truth-myth

I dont take an AI because it wont be neccessary on that low dose,from what i have heard.
But now i will add Adex to see if my libido goes up.

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That thread is an interesting read. My issue is that he makes concrete declarations about the "normal" HRT dose to match endogenous production -- 100mg/wk. Done. No discussion. There are a great many threads here (and studies out there) showing this is not the case, and there's a fair amount of variation required for people to feel normal. This typically is in the 100-200mg/wk range. Restricting everyone to 100mg for normalcy is ignorant.

All that aside, his advice of using 250mg/wk for a starter cycle isn't without merit. It's just exceedingly cautious. You may want to take the 250mg/E5D route instead, which effectively means 350mg/wk. You'll have a much better cycle.

Test is a pretty benign substance in moderate doses and maybe safer than just about all the other drugs that bodybuilders use -- including other steroids, AIs, SERMs, diuretics, even aspirin. Going to 500mg/wk isn't likely to cause you any angst and will very likely give you the libido you're looking for.

Thanks for much feedback..
I did some changes and instead of 250mg/w i now do 375mg/e5d. And a lowdose Hcg (500iu/w) for the rest of my cycle..
Not sure if the increase of test really will make a difference in results or libido. But as some of you said, i would probably regret if i did my first cycle on as low dose as 250mg/w

Daniel808 said:

Thanks for much feedback..
I did some changes and instead of 250mg/w i now do 375mg/e5d. And a lowdose Hcg (500iu/w) for the rest of my cycle..
Not sure if the increase of test really will make a difference in results or libido. But as some of you said, i would probably regret if i did my first cycle on as low dose as 250mg/w

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375mg/E5D = 525mg/wk. Nice.

Definitely use an AI. Get bloodwork to monitor E2 and dial in that AI dose.

I agree with Chocolatemalt

Daniel808 said:

Thanks for much feedback..
I did some changes and instead of 250mg/w i now do 375mg/e5d. And a lowdose Hcg (500iu/w) for the rest of my cycle..
Not sure if the increase of test really will make a difference in results or libido. But as some of you said, i would probably regret if i did my first cycle on as low dose as 250mg/w

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The increase in test is not so much a fix to the problem of libido. This is in an attempt to deliver better results in terms of strength and size and other positives of the cycle. You may not regret just running 250 a week, but you might feel it didn't deliver as much as you were hoping. The results may turn into an undesirable cycle that left you wondering what you accomplished.

The libido fix is something different that is most likely stemming from estrogen. All we are saying is if an AI isn't helping, the bloods will help offer a solution. Good idea to start an AI

Ok, do you think Adex @ 0.5 e3d will be enough to start with?
I remember when i used Inhibit-e and the ATD made me loose sexdrive for a long time.
Thats why i wanted to avoid using an AI.
But on a test cycle of course its a different situation and i will need to use one.

Btw i get really bad cramps when i do cardio, even though i supplement with Potassium & Taurine.
Any advice on that?
I still want to do my fasted cardio in the morning.

I noticed i didnt put in my stats to begin with so here is my before cycle stats:
34years old
185cm
104kg
18%bf (i know im too fat for a cycle, but i did it anyway.)
I been training since i was 15.
More seriously the last 4 years.
My goal is to gain some lbm and lose some bf on cycle.
Pct will be Clomid,nolva and some Cardarine.

Get blood work. Maybe estrogen is really hi.