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3 weeks in.. what's going on with me?

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So Friday will be three weeks into my actual true cycle (disregarding the first 4 weeks of pretty much just a cruise dose). Anyway, for the passed five days I have been feeling pretty strange.

The symptoms that I have noticed are as follows:

  • Backne flair up
  • Lethargic, almost the feeling you get as a cold is coming on. It comes in waves, when I wake up for the gym I feel great and that lasts about till noon then I feel like shit.
  • I am hot, all the time, pouring sweat.
  • Sex drive is kind of wonky as far as stamina I can pretty much go for one round and then its lights out, which normally is not the case. At the beginning of my cycle I was calling over my girls, picking up randoms, and jerking off tons a day. That has reduced significantly. I still think about it all the time and seek it, but not nearly as much.
  • I have been feeling self conscious for the first time in a long time. Either being entirely critical of my physique compared to other people, discounting my progress, etc.
  • I am never satisfied; for example my buddy and I had a crazy escapade with three 18-year old girls in the hot-tub this passed weekend and I find myself down-selling it. Where as normally I would have been stoked for months.
  • My self confidence has also taken a little bit of a plunge, from complete arrogant prick to slightly overbearing asshole... I prefer the first one.
  • Overall I have been feeling like a whiny little bitch inside my head, and I don't know if it is just me or if there is something out of whack. Much like the lethargy all of these symptoms come in waves, at some point throughout the day I feel great and others the complete opposite.

My Gear/Supplementation:
  • Valkyrie Test-E @250mg x2 Weekly
  • IMR Exemestane @12.5mg x2 Daily
  • HCG @500iu x2 Weekly
  • Sildenfil @50mg 2-3x Weekly
  • Optimen Multivitamin
  • Taurine @5g Daily
  • Hawthorne Berry
  • Himalayan Liver Cure
  • Omega 3 Fish Oil
  • Creatine @3g Daily

My first direction to head would be that of low estrogen, correct? My next blood test appointment is not until the 19th to confirm whether or not my estrogen has crashed. I however expected there to be some sort of joint dryness and the other symptoms rather than what I am feeling. I guess I am just looking for input. My cycle is still progressing, I am still gaining, and other than the aforementioned things I feel good.
 
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very mild compared to what actually entailed, no time to take pictures.. but here you go vultures.. now back to the OP ^


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Ok they are quality sloots....

Possibly your E2 is below range? Or maybe your body is just adjusting to the hormone change given that its only 3 weeks in?
 
Bloodwork will let you know. Get some private labs work done, you could get done this week. Sounds like est is elevated.
 
IdahoRally said:
I was afraid of that. May have to move this to the pit and start up the tranny porn.
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HAHAHA. I like this guy, he learns quick!

In all seriousness it could be a dozen different things. The gear is kicking in and your body is going to experience some changes. Good and bad. Just what happens when you mess with your hormones. Its going to mess with your emotions, psyche, etc. If I had to guess I would venture to say your estro is too low. Back down the AI and see how you feel in a week. I know we have talked extensively, but I think you're running yourself ragged with your daily schedule. You need to rest more. Easier said than done I know. Your diet looks solid, you're eating a metric fuck ton.

Just my .02 cents but I'm not an expert. Hang in there brother.
 
My first batch of bloods 3 weeks ago yielded test at 1947 and est at 57. Since then I have switched to a legitimate brand of test, as well as the IMR Exemestane vs. the bunk AA stuff. I do plan on private labs for the bloods, it's just a 3 hour drive for me and my first availability is the 19th.
 
SoCalJC said:
HAHAHA. I like this guy, he learns quick!

In all seriousness it could be a dozen different things. The gear is kicking in and your body is going to experience some changes. Good and bad. Just what happens when you mess with your hormones. Its going to mess with your emotions, psyche, etc. If I had to guess I would venture to say your estro is too low. Back down the AI and see how you feel in a week. I know we have talked extensively, but I think you're running yourself ragged with your daily schedule. You need to rest more. Easier said than done I know. Your diet looks solid, you're eating a metric fuck ton.

Just my .02 cents but I'm not an expert. Hang in there brother.
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I have taken what you said to heart in regards to rest.. I have been doing my best to get the 8 hours in. Luckily in two weeks I will be on winter break, cutting my 16 hour days down to 6ish. Which will be a nice 5-week period during the prime-time of my cycle hopefully.

What would you suggest as sufficient starting point decrease on the AI? 18.5mg?
 
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You sure your vials say "test" on them and not "tren"? That would explain most of your symptoms. :D

I'd take your AI down to 12.5 if E2 crushing is your main suspect. Maybe even a skip a day or two. Aromasin usually doesn't crush E2 tho...
 
i agree with the lowering of exemastane.. i have done this myself in the past and once you been through it, you know right off the next time.. like socal said everyone is different so you have to find what is right for you. that IMR exem is no joke and can crash your estro really fast.. take a few days off to let it come back up and get some rest.. oh and maybe throw in another sexcapade.. cant hurt ;)
 
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It sounds to me like low e2 you should get labs. Probably wouldn't hurt to lower your dose of exemestane a bit and see what happens after a couple days.
 
chocolatemalt said:
You sure your vials say "test" on them and not "tren"? That would explain most of your symptoms. :D

I'd take your AI down to 12.5 if E2 crushing is your main suspect. Maybe even a skip a day or two. Aromasin usually doesn't crush E2 tho...
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enough of any AI will crush it, it just doesn't do it as drastically as others. besides the adjustment period, all that shit. it sounds like high estrogen to me. i never get acne flair ups on low estro, but my sex drive can still diminish, still be lethargic, etc.
 
SoCalJC said:
Awesome! Rest is sooooo important.

Try 18.5mg and see how ya feel. AI is tough because its different for everyone. Some ppl don't even need/run AI. So its kinda trial and error.
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He's taking 12.5 twice daily, though
 
I skip my AI for a few days and see how I feel. Best to do this on the week end when you are more likely to tag some tail.
 
Most likely too much exe . 25mg/day on 500mg/wk of test is too much for most of us . Why do you want to be an arrogant prick brother ? Each of us represent our lifestyle like it or not . Nothing is worse than a BBer walking around acting as if he's better than everyone else . We have a responsibility to be able to act as a man while taking these compounds or we are just re enforcing societies attitudes about " steroid freaks " in essence proving them right . I know you have more to offer . Probably didn't want to hear all of this but for whatever it's worth .
 
Yeah, I've been dialing in my AI from Ironman, exemestane. I think I have it down to ~6.25 mg per day.
 
I don't fucking know, though. I don't have any symptoms, no tenderness, itchiness... nothing... can you hey gyno without sumptoms?
 
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