The Ultimate Log (peps, hgh, slin, syntherol, pge-1 etc)

I like to experiment and this is no different but just taking it to another level now. I am well aware I don't have the best genetics and some of this stuff may not even be needed but my plan is to go for it. This log will contain all aspects of my transformation and I welcome any positive contributions from all the members on here. I have a clear plan and some exciting ideas for the future.

It's been years since I have used HGH. I wish I could dose 10IU eod but I simply can't. Therefore I will be following a protocol that increases the effectiveness of my hgh. My complete plan is...
100mcg cjc no dac and ghrp-2 sub q
10 mins later
2IU HGH sub q

I will dose the above 2 times daily with occasional day breaks. When I use slin it will be incorporated about 30 mins after my hgh inj at a dose of about 6-8IU (Novalog). I have already started and completed some quick and obviously not conclusive but interesting experiments so far.

For the first 2 days I injected 2IU HGH pre bed and I noticed great sleep and cts in the morning. On the 3rd day I used peps only pre bed and noticed the same. However on the 4th day I followed the above protocol and I literally woke up feeling like I had hibernated over winter. The cts was so severe I could barely move my hands for a few mins in the morning. Whilst this mini experiment is just that and not conclusive it showed me the two definitely have a synergistic effect.

I will also be restarting syntherol injs in my calves as they are genetically weak and I love the size this brings when combined with super hard training etc. Incase anyone doesn't know I have trained my calves brutally over the years with very little results. I have used perfect form, every exercise, every rep system and tempo you can imagine. I will try and include some training vids when I can.

PGE-1 will be injected in various body parts pre workout like I have done in the past. I will mainly use my arms as they are easier and I hope to gain a few inches over the next 6 months.

My aas is the highest it has ever been. At the moment 1g test, 600mg deca and 50mg tren a per day. I am also using 50mg inj adrol per day but only have about 5 days left on that. I will add in and take away aas as I go though the weeks and plan to cruise at various times on the way. I am currently taking part in a Tren A and Parabolan comparison thread. Therefore in about 3 weeks I will swop over to 50mg parabolan per day.

I will include progress pics every few weeks. My plan is to build muscle with minimal fat gain but it's not gonna be all pretty

Training will be every body part 2 to 3 times weekly. For larger muscle groups I will do a little more volume but still not too much due to the frequency I train each body part. So it could be chest, back, quads, shoulders for 30 mins max each session but 2 to 3 times weekly. Arms 20 mins max per session but again 2 to 3 times weekly. A typical day could look like...

Chest, Back and Calves

Warm Up
Decline Presses... 4 warm up sets and 1 working set
Chest Dips... 1 warm up set and 1 working set
Cable Flyes... 1 warm up set and 3 working sets at high reps.
Face Pulls... 3 sets of 20 reps
Hammer Strength Pulldown... 3 warm up sets and 1 working set
Seated Cable Row... 2 warm up sets and 1 working set
Pull Ups... 3 sets to failure with 20 sec rest in between sets
Seated Calf Raise Supersetted with Leg Press Calf Press... 15 reps on each going up in weight.... 4 warm up sets and 1 working set for both.
Calf Extensions... 1 working set

I am a fan of alternating opposing body parts so quite often the above will be performed chest, back, chest, back etc. I play about with my training but I will be following the same system but will throw in an odd day of something different. Reps tends to be 10-40 reps but I will be throwing in some heavier low rep stuff on certain exercises. Basically my training is always different but progressive and intense.

Diet will be 2 to 3 shakes in my nutribullet. Examples of these could be...

Spinach, 2 apples, blueberries, walnuts and whey isolate with water.
Kale, pineapple, lemon juice, seed mix with micellar casein and water.

The rest will be typical meals including, chicken, beef, fish, eggs, greek yoghurt, oats, sweet potatoes, pasta, fruit etc. I will have a few takeaways so it won't all be clean. Although those are mainly something like beef satay with boiled rice and salt and pepper chicken wings.
I have made some decent progress in the last few weeks so hope to carry that on

Ok Im in ...I will be watchin

can i sit next to you bro...you look all alone in this theater

reminds me when i lived in florida..pee wee herman was busted at a xxx theater jackin it close to my appt...place was a nasty fap fest in there.....ok moving on now

subd bro ..kill this cycle bro...

A few days ago I tried PGE-1 in my quads pre training. I used 2 micro injs of 5mcg per quad. Even at that small dose they started hurting on the way to the gym. It really isn't the best of feelings but it soon fades away. I had to start with very light leg extensions and they were a struggle. But once I got some blood into the muscle I was gtg. Due to my back I have been concentrating on horizontal leg presses recently and they felt great. I have also started doing more cardio and performed 20 mins on the exercise bike on the hardest setting. The intense cardio gave me the best quad pump ever and I couldn't walk afterwards.

2moro for quads I am thinking leg press, lunges, kettleball squats and stretches. I will use 5mcg in 2 spots for each quad again. Plus another 5mcg in each lat as they always feels great and doesn't ache like other body parts can.

Unlisted said:

can i sit next to you bro...you look all alone in this theater

reminds me when i lived in florida..pee wee herman was busted at a xxx theater jackin it close to my appt...place was a nasty fap fest in there.....ok moving on now

subd bro ..kill this cycle bro...

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Lolz....

twistedgto said:

Ok Im in ...I will be watchin

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Thanks

Unlisted said:

can i sit next to you bro...you look all alone in this theater

reminds me when i lived in florida..pee wee herman was busted at a xxx theater jackin it close to my appt...place was a nasty fap fest in there.....ok moving on now

subd bro ..kill this cycle bro...

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I will try my best to mutant. I don't mind if you guys want to hold hands whilst you watch either

Elvia1023 said:

A few days ago I tried PGE-1 in my quads pre training. I used 2 micro injs of 5mcg per quad. Even at that small dose they started hurting on the way to the gym. It really isn't the best of feelings but it soon fades away. I had to start with very light leg extensions and they were a struggle. But once I got some blood into the muscle I was gtg. Due to my back I have been concentrating on horizontal leg presses recently and they felt great. I have also started doing more cardio and performed 20 mins on the exercise bike on the hardest setting. The intense cardio gave me the best quad pump ever and I couldn't walk afterwards.

2moro for quads I am thinking leg press, lunges, kettleball squats and stretches. I will use 5mcg in 2 spots for each quad again. Plus another 5mcg in each lat as they always feels great and doesn't ache like other body parts can.

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Is the pain caused by the dac ur useing, u said goes rite away correct...

Very very very very very interested

Subbd!


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E, isn't pge1 the same thing as caverject??? And you're using that pre workout IM?


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just like anything else your spots injects shoulkd get use to it id hope...you should do calves next time..

i can remember the first prop quad inject...oh fuck that was crippling for a few days..

now they can handle a decent amount of oil with slight charlies ....

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Is the pain caused by the dac ur useing, u said goes rite away correct...

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I am not using cjc-dac. I am using cjc no dac and ghrp-2 but that causes no pain whatsoever. It's from the PGE-1. Thousands online use it for penile enlargement. It's what some porn stars use. Basically they inject it into their cocks and it goes rigid for hours. They can cum and it stays hard. I have never used it down below but there are logs all over the net on it's usage. 99.9% of guys who buy it use it down below. I started an experiment with it using it in various body parts pre training. It expands the muscle and the pump you get is incredible. Other guys using it for bodybuilding have reported strength gains in the injected body part. I need to experiment with it more but so far it is great. After seeing it's effects I would recommend it to competitors who want to look full for contests. But it can be very painful even with tiny doses. I like to experiment but I wouldn't put my body through anything really bad so I am sticking to tiny doses. It's more of a ache but yes it doesn't last long... 45 mins max most times.

heymrwaters said:

E, isn't pge1 the same thing as caverject??? And you're using that pre workout IM?


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Yes The feeling it gives is mental. It has helped me establish a mind muscle connection with muscles such as lats which I always struggle with. Literally if you inject a muscle all you can feel is the muscle. It feels like the muscle has expanded and is popping out.

I am gonna go the gym in a bit. Just drinking my Nutrex Outlift and watching this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpwEHIL_UZ4

Ready for battle

I took 6.66mg (1/3 of a dropper) LGD-4033 pre workout. Plus just under a scoop of Nutrex Outlift and I was flying I had a great workout tonight.... started slow but built up the pace as I went along. Mainly stuck to chest and back and rotated each every exercise. The tren I am on has definitely increased my strength over the last week or so. The new preworkout has given me a big boost too. That combined with slin pre workout gave me ridiculous muscle pumps.

Earlier I dosed 100mcg of cjc no dac and ghrp2 then about 10 mins later 2IU HGH. I waited about 30 mins then I ate spaghetti Bolognese with loads of beef mince. A little later I took 10IU novolog and then made a protein smoothie. That included spinach, 2 apples, 1 banana and whey isolate with water. During training I sipped on 75G HBCD's and 30g aminos. I look like a different person after training... very full etc.

I have put on about 12 pounds in the last few weeks so hope to carry on that over the following weeks.

I will start my calf syntherol injs 2moro night dosed at 1ml in 4 spots in each calf. My plan is to move up to 6 spots for each calf so 6ml per day.

I just done another set of pep and hgh injs (I didn't do morning ones today) then ate chicken (seasoned with nandos piri piri salt) with brown rice and cherry tomatoes.

Very interested as well, I'll be following along... How do you how deep to inject the sytherol??

Also, where can we find that thread about the Tren A / Parabolin comparison.

Elvia1023 said:

I am not using cjc-dac. I am using cjc no dac and ghrp-2 but that causes no pain whatsoever. It's from the PGE-1. Thousands online use it for penile enlargement. It's what some porn stars use. Basically they inject it into their cocks and it goes rigid for hours. They can cum and it stays hard. I have never used it down below but there are logs all over the net on it's usage. 99.9% of guys who buy it use it down below. I started an experiment with it using it in various body parts pre training. It expands the muscle and the pump you get is incredible. Other guys using it for bodybuilding have reported strength gains in the injected body part. I need to experiment with it more but so far it is great. After seeing it's effects I would recommend it to competitors who want to look full for contests. But it can be very painful even with tiny doses. I like to experiment but I wouldn't put my body through anything really bad so I am sticking to tiny doses. It's more of a ache but yes it doesn't last long... 45 mins max most times.

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You should try it just once and report back... I have the chills thinking about needling my sausage

Jester said:

Very interested as well, I'll be following along... How do you how deep to inject the sytherol??

Also, where can we find that thread about the Tren A / Parabolin comparison.

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It's always been advised when using syntherol to go as deep in the muscle as possible. By doing so you will create a more natural look and prevent any lumps from forming post injection. I have experimented in the past in my calves and would mainly use 5/8 or 1 inch deep needles. They are what everyone uses and are fine and do the job. But they can create more pain/blood for me. Whereas when I swopped over to slin pins I couldn't believe the difference. Injections are so much easier and I get no lumps whatsoever. I just make sure to push in deep. I backload the slin pins using a syringe and loading needle. This is the system I will follow from tonight when I restart. Like anything you need to find what works best for you but I 100% prefer this system. I will restart with 4 injs each calf (2 each side) all 1ml so 4ml per calf. Over time I will move up to 6 injs per calf and a total of 6ml per calf.

That thread is on another forum. The very nature of the comparison is flawed due to the different esters and using one after the other. But I know both will be top quality so a win win in my eyes. I have never used parabolan so excited to try it out.

Dieseljimmy said:

You should try it just once and report back... I have the chills thinking about needling my sausage

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I have thought about it but decided not to. But I tell you what I will in a few weeks and will report back. But trust me after injecting this stuff (in tiny doses) in various body parts I can imagine it will hurt and throb so not exactly looking forward to it. There are logs all over the net of guys using PGE-1 down below. Part of me is scared I will damage it as personally I don't think any needles should go anywhere near that area.

Decided to have today off the gym so will go Sat morning and Sun afternoon. My plan 2moro is legs so work won't be pleasant afterwards as I won't be able to walk properly (hate working on Sat).

I will restart my syntherol tonight at 1ml injected 4 times in each calf (2 spots each side).

I haven't injected any peps or hgh today but will dose them now pre bed. Plus a morning dose pre workout too. My plan 2moro is peps/hgh with 10IU slin... pretty much the same as last time.

Over the last few months I was taking antibiotics so I decided to start a probiotic a few days ago. I have noticed I have been getting bloated much more recently so hopefully it helps with that. I am using Ultimate Flora Men’s Complete 90 Billion Probiotic. The other supplements I am currently using are...

Multi Vitamin
Vit C
Curcumin Phytosome
Omega Oil Blend
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Chromium Picolinate
N-Acetyl L-Cysteine

Can you post before and after syntherol calf pics in this log later on please? Interesting it's working good with a slin pin I always thought you had to go deep into/underneath even the muscle.


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This^^^

heymrwaters said:

Can you post before and after syntherol calf pics in this log later on please? Interesting it's working good with a slin pin I always thought you had to go deep into/underneath even the muscle.


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I will sort that out. I have done syntherol before in my calves and posted a log (on another forum). I will post a before pic and after about 1 month pic from that log now. I was actually gonna do that anyway. I have to state although it may not look like it I kill my calves. Perfect slow form to fast paced craziness, 10 sec holds at the bottom and top to stretching between every set. Very light weight in my bare feet to super heavy with strict form. Then you have my mate who doesn't train calves and plays football (soccer) once per week and has great calves. I was made up with the results though...







I started at about 17 inches and the second pic is just over 18 inches. I got them to about 19 inches. They have gone down a bit now. I am hoping to get them to 20 inches in the next 2 months. Even at 20 inches they will still look crap!

Fuck man you making me feel like a girl lol my calves are only 15.5"


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heymrwaters said:

Can you post before and after syntherol calf pics in this log later on please? Interesting it's working good with a slin pin I always thought you had to go deep into/underneath even the muscle.


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heymrwaters said:

Fuck man you making me feel like a girl lol my calves are only 15.5"

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I bet they still look better than mine though. I see some guys and their calves look great but I bet if they were measured they would be about 16 inches. Sometimes weight and inches don't count when they are compared to good genetics. I will try my best though!

No more chicken wings for me. I was in a rush going to work and the butchers is very close. I ordered 10 chicken wings but they gave me 17. I ate all 17 really fast. I felt crap for awhile (no surprise) as all the salt is not good. An occasional 4-6 wings are fine but 17 is too much. The rest of today I have ate good quality food and will continue with that.

Anyway I went to the gym straight from work. I trained legs and decided to go heavy. I trained calves, hams then quads. I went up to 26 plates on the leg press and pushed it. I probably strained a bit too hard on the final reps as my ears popped badly. I finished with some walking lunges then leg extensions. I couldn't get my shorts on at first for the shower and I can tell by legs are growing (still crap though). As I couldn't go home before the gym I didn't have any slin etc pre workout (I did have my nutrex outlift though).

When I got home I done 100mcg cjc no dac and ghrp-2 followed by 2iu hgh 10 mins later. Then I had 10IU slin followed by some apple cream cake o) and chicken with potatoes and veg. Then I had a smoothie with spinach, 2 apples, goji berries, sultanas, whey isolate and water.

I started my syntherol last night and my calves have felt great today. I am out for my works Xmas night out 2moro so will do it next on Sunday then will do it eod for about a week. After that I will inj it ed... just giving my calves a short time to get used to the injs again.

I am started to feel fatigue on my peps and hgh stack. I struggle to get up in the mornings so will try my post to stay in a good routine as I want to progress lots. I can tell I have a lot of gh in my system though so it's gonna happen. The nutrex outlift is amazing for my workouts and I would recommend it to anyone.

2moro morning will be shoulders and arms with peps/gh and slin beforehand. I am currently using 30g EAA's and 75g HBCD's intra and enjoying that a lot. I have just order some Musclemeds Secret Sauce for post workout and excited to try that. I like my supplements but will only be using them around my workouts (expect whey isolate in my smoothies). So consuming lots of good quality food is my main aim for this log (and well forever)

Things have been good. I weighed myself last night and I have put on another 3 pounds (matter of days). Although I did go out last night for my work's xmas night out. I haven't drank for a bit but did last night. Not ideal I know especially due to the inj adrol but I feel fine and plan to not drink again till my bday. It was a fairly heavy night but I went home early (3am) so it could have been much worse. I had about 10 double brandy and cokes and about 15 shots so not ideal.

Looking forward to going the gym 2moro. I rested a lot today so I will be able to put in more when I train 2moro.

Very interesting update. I have been using 100mcg cjc no dac/ghrp 2 followed by 2IU HGH 1 to 2 times daily. So far I am made up with the results but do wish I could go higher in HGH. Every night I dose it pre bed I have deep sleep with vivid dreams and wake up with bad cts. However the other night I knew I wouldn't get much sleep so I took 0.1mg pramipexole pre bed (first time in a few weeks). It was ridiculous.... extreme sweating through the night, deepest sleep imaginable, crazy dreams and sever cts in the morning (couldn't move my fingers). I woke up an hour before my alarm (after about 4 hours sleep) and my bed was soaked. I swopped my cover around but it felt horrible on my legs. I put a towel down and literally slept with my legs pulled up as I couldn't be bothered changing my sheets. I took a pic when I woke up...

Prami can be a remarkable drug when used correctly but it does come with it's downsides.

The last few days have consisted of work and recovery. I trained my chest Mon night and that was great. I had 2 days off peps/hgh. I just injected my pep combo on an empty stomach (after a break) and it hit me like a brick wall. I was well rested but all I wanted to do was sleep.... literally walking was a challenge as I just wanted to lie down. Then I dosed 2IU HGH about 20 mins later and that made things even worse.

I had spaghetti Bolognese with meatballs and grated cheese on top (about 1 hour ago). Just chilling with a cup of tea but gonna get ready for the gym soon. I am thinking back and hams with calves but that may change. My protocol for today is...

10IU Novolog
Fruit smoothie with spinach, 2 apples, raspberries, whey isolate and water.

Pre workout Nutrex Outlift 1 scoop.

In the gym I will have 25g Amino Go and 75g HBCD's

Post workout and in the sauna I will have 1 serving of Musclemeds Secret Sauce.

Then later on it will be all whole food.... mainly chicken and brown rice and some good olive oil.


Here is what is in each serving of those 3 products...

Each scoop of Nutrex Outlift provides:
Citrulline Malate 2:1 8 g
Carnosyn® Beta-Alanine 3.2 g
Creapure® 100% pure Creatine Monohydrate 3 g
L-Leucine 3 g
L-Isoleucine 1.5 g
L-Valine 1.5 g
Taurine 2 g
Caffeine Anhydrous 350 mg
N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine 150 mg
Bioperine® [(Piper nigrum extract)(fruit)] 5 mg

Each 25g serving of Amino Go™ provides:
iBCAA 2:1:1:10g
Glutamine:3g
Citrulline Malate:2g
Beetroot Extract:500mg
Electrolyte Blend:100mg
Cocopure™ (Coconut Water):3g
Taurine:3g
Beta Alanine:500mg
Vitamin C:500mg

Each serving of Secret Sauce provides:
Amount Per Serving % DV †
Calories 220
Total Carbohydrate 50 g 17%
Sugars 0 g ‡
Protein 4 g 8%
Chromium (as Chromium 454® Bio-Organic Yeast Matrix) 200 mcg 167%
Sodium 104 mg 4%
SECRET SAUCE Bioactive Muscle Growth and Recovery Activator 70,000mg ‡
iSPIKE Technology [consisting of Insulin-Release Amplifying Reactive Carbohydrate System (micronpartculated maltodextrin, micronparticulated waxy maize, amylase, and glucoamylase), and Insulin-Signal Amplifying System (Agaricus blazei, D-pinitol, 4-hydroxyisoleucine, patent-pending Chromium 454®)]
Pharmaceutical Grade Bioactive BSA
(Bovine Serum Albumin Concentrate derived from bovine blood plasma)
Highly Anabolic and Insulinotropic Amino Complex
[10:1:1 BCAA Complex (L-leucine, L-isoleucine, L-valine), glycine, L-phenylalanine]
Power-AMP Cre3 Creatine Complex
[creatine monohydrate, Creatine Magnapower® (as magnesium creatine chelate), and creatine gluconate]

Quite a training stack imo. I usually have 30g EAA's during training (sipped throughout workout) but swopped over for a short time.

Enjoying this log brother.


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I should note I think supplements should be used just as they are... supplements. You don't even need them with a good diet in place. But I do love to experiment and fact is I don't like eating too much around my workouts. That's were they come in and I am a huge advocate of intra carbs and aminos for optimal recovery and muscle fullness etc. Plus whey isolate, activated barley, powdered oats etc are great for convenience and especially good when you are already eating 3-4k cals in whole food per day to get your cals up.

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heymrwaters said:

Enjoying this log brother.


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Thanks. It will only get better... I hope!!

And with the 10 iu of log floating around all supplements are getting shuttled right where they need to go


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heymrwaters said:

And with the 10 iu of log floating around all supplements are getting shuttled right where they need to go


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Exactly

For the guys not wanting to use slin a good GDA would be a great substitute. Man Sports NForce is a great one... just make sure you have your carbs 20 mins after it as I have gone hypo from it before.