Oh I see, yes that seems a very high dose of test without running an ai like sin or adex at least ed. I understand with the addition of provi though, I'm sorry you had to learn that the hard way. Interesting on the prolactin inhibitor...I've never experienced leaking before but know people who have. Also I would prefer to be safe, being as prone to gyno as I am. I'll have to do more research about the total control of both, now that you've brought that to my attention. And at which point did you realize that an increase in mg (12.5 - 25) per day was needed in previous cycles, including that bulk? Despite lack of bloods would you say around 1200mg test a week? Also, here's a good read I thought you'd like:
19-nors being Progestogenic compounds are known to increase a hormone in the body known as Prolactin. Prolactin levels above normal in men often results in side effects such as lactating nipples, erectile dysfunction, anorgasmia (inability to achieve orgasm) and endogenous Testosterone production suppression/shutdown. An interesting point to learn is the fact that Progesterone itself is known to inhibit Prolactin production, and that 19-nors such as Nandrolone and Trenbolone being classified as Progestins should serve to actually suppress Prolactin levels. However, this is not the case as Nandrolone and Trenbolone are not Progesterone themselves – they are anabolic steroids that exhibit Progestogenic activity due to their chemical modifications and it is therefore very possible for these hormones to exhibit activity that is contrary to the activity of a similar hormone or parent hormone. It has been found that Nandrolone and Trenbolone can and do in fact increase Prolactin levels in the body.
Prolactin increases can be controlled either with the use of Prolactin antagonist drugs (such as Cabergoline or Pramipexole), however, prevention of rising Estrogen levels are also an effective method. For one thing, it is strongly speculated that the Estrogen in fact serves as a co-binding factor in the Prolactin receptor expression (PRLR). This can increase an individual’s sensitivity to Prolactin even if Prolactin levels themselves are not high in the body. This is a very sound theory when it is understood that the Estrogen receptor is a causative factor in Prolactin issues. Therefore, controlling Estrogen levels should control the effects of Prolactin. This is the number one reason why the side effects associated with 19-nor compounds (such as Nandrolone and Trenbolone) are frequently reported to be far more pronounced and with greater severity when they are used in a high Estrogen environment (whether it is from stacking Nandrolone or Trenbolone with high aromatizable doses of an aromatizable compound, such as Testosterone or otherwise).
*******This information is from steroidal.com under deca durabolin steroid profile. I first checked steroid types and continued research via Nandrolone analogues. They have some really good info there, which is why I went back to read after hearing from a more experienced gentleman such as yourself. Let me know what you think.
That's a good point to bring to maddad's attention or anybody as well, who is considering use of adex or aromasin. Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor, which will allow you to stop abruptly without getting rebound gyno. Adex is not, and must be tapered to prevent this. If going the adex route, make sure to taper, and not stop abruptly before or after pct.
good shit deemo.
good reads Lou. Thanks for the input.
