When I was referring to BS "PH" cycles, I wasn't referring to epistane. Epistane is one of the only compounds I like. I was talking about past "PH" cycles... One being halobolin, dymethazine, and methylstenbolone... Another being "mutant plexx" which is a 4 compound, and I can't remember which compounds it contains off the top of my head... And another being tren and dymethazine stack....
Everything I've taken has been dry compounds. And I've yielded good results off each besides the tren & dmz stack (which I thought would be best)... But with these "PH" cycles, I very slowly lose near everything gained... But with my test & epi cycle, I've kept all my strength that I had while on cycle, and am still the same weight that I was post pct.
And I know most "ph" are in fact just steroids, but I just call them prohormones because that's what they are labeled for over the counter and legal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there only a couple of "prohormones" that are truly prohormones?
Typically, testosterone results in a greater percentage of post-cycle weight loss than either dimethazine or m-sten, as a sizeable portion of testosterone's weight gain is attributable to water retention--unless an AI is used, in which case it cuts down dramatically on post-cycle weight loss. Now, if estrogen is properly managed with an AI, the you may keep more of the "size" gained with testosterone than with dimethazien or m-sten, but not because more muscle tissue is kept. Rather, testosterone does not result in the same degree of muscle "swelling" (i.e. intramuscular water retention) experienced with those 2 drugs, so when you go off of them, you are more likely to lose "size". Many people misinterpret this lost size as muscle loss, when in realuty, one will not lose their muscle gains with those orals any more quickly than they will with testosterone. muscle tissue gains retention is virtually the same with all AASAa butfactors such as I.M. water retention xcan have significant effects on the amount oif "size" that is mnaintained.s
Strength is a completely different thing altogether, a steroids can cause strength gains through not only increased muscle fiber size, but through multiple mechanisms unrelated to muscle fiber growth. The steroids which cause significant strength gains via non-hypertrophy mechanisms are more likley to result in strength loss post-cycle, as the drugs are no longer around to stimulate strength gains through those pathways. However, hypertrophy induced strength gains are maintained at the same rate, regardless of the steroid that was used.
When it comes to muscle fiber retention, it has nothing to do with what compound is used, but is affected by factors such as hormonal status, food intake, etc. In other words, muscle tissue will be maintained or lost equally regardless of AAS. Post-cycle muscle fiber retention will only take place when the body's hormonal status is able to support the increased muscle mass, while food intake must alos be suffciient to suppoort the newly acquired mass. If either of these factors is insufficient, then muscle will continue to be lost (no matter what steroid was used to build that muscle) until it reaches a point where the environment is sufficient. Basically, once a person exceeds theur natural lomit, they will lose all that muscle post-cycle until they reach the point where theuir body can support theuir muscle tissue. If someone is below their naural limit, they they are potentially capable of maintaining all their newly gained muscle tissue, assuming nutritional intake is adequate.
One's natural limit (which an vary significantly from person to person) can be defined as the amount of muscle mass the body can suppoort by itself. There many people who begin using ASS who have not come anywhere close to maxing out their natural capacity, so anything these people gain while on-cycle can potentially be kept post-cycle. however, as soonas they exceed their natural maintainable limit, any muscle tissue gained beyind that point will ALWAYS be lost post-cycle, no matter what they do to try and keep it.
So, whether you use testosterone, Epistane, Dimethazine, or whatever, musclre tissue gains retention rate is the same for all of them. Like I said above, some steroids are better than others when it comes to maintaining muscle size, but this is a matter of intramuscular water reteention. Strength gains, as stated previously, can be achuieved through multiple mechanisms, with each steroid affecting each of thesemechanisms to different degree, so strenbgth gains retention rate can vary enormously among the different steroids. Again , this has nothing to do with muscle fiber retention rate, but to what degree the AAS used were stimulating strength gains through non-hypertrophy pathways.
When someone doesn't understand how steroids work in the body, it is natural to think that AAS have varying gains retention rates, but once the individual understands what is causing the size and strength gains, then they are better able to differentiate between actual muscle fiber loss or just size loss, which are often two completely different things.
you are correct when you say that most OTC steroids today are not PH's, but actuve AAS. However, a steroid can be both active and a PH at the same time. In fact, it is very common. Testosterone is a great example, as it is both active in its original state, while alos being a prohormone to dihydrotestosterone, estrogen, etc. Many people don't realize just how many conventional AAds are PH's. For example, a portion of boldenone (EQ) converts to 1-testosterone, halodrol converts to T-bol, 1-alpha converts to M1T, but all of these are also active in their original state.
