My bad didn't realize this was an old thread all the orals have been revamped they are perfect now no negatives to speak of. I highly recommend AMA for all AAS. They are still my #1 go to source. If anybody wants to ask questions I have personal experience with most of their productg2g Iv tried most of them. provi, dbol, tbol, arom, var, ect all 100% g2g only neg is they are fragile