Team Green TIPP Lab Results

INTRODUCTION
For those of you that are part of the Team Green you may have had the pleasure of running the special blend TIPP which is the acronym for Testosterone Isocaproate at 150mg and Testosterone Phenylpropionate at 100mg for a 250mg blend.

I have cruised on Test-E, Test-D and TIPP and I have to say TIPP is my favorite compound for cruising. This blend will kick in more quickly than Test-C, Test-E and Test-D and will also clear the system quicker. When running test other than TIPP I have to bump my 250mg a week with TPA or add proviron to keep my levels where I feel best but with the TIPP I just run 250mg a week without bumping with TPA or adding proviron.

PROTOCOL
For this lab analysis I pinned TIPP 100mg twice a week and waited 7 days for blood draw. Why 7 days? I will be submitting this report to my doctor for review and I needed a conservative number. Also, I was concerned that if I followed the 3.5 day protocol for Test-E or Test-C my test number could be really high with the Test-Phenylpropionate. Next time I have blood drawn during a cruise I will follow the 3.5 day protocol just so I can find a baseline for future reference for myself and anybody else that cruises on TIPP. If there are any other Team Green clients that have analytical results for TIPP to share that would be awesome as we can start putting together normative data and form a conclusion for true average for test levels.

OBSERVATIONS

Lipids
My cholesterol number looks okay, but that number might be skewed because I donated blood 11 days prior to blood draw. No orals over the last 4 months other than Proviron. I would like to see HDL go up and make that cholesterol ratio go down.

Urea Nitrogen
If anybody has an idea why this is slightly elevated I would like to hear from you.

Bun/Creatinine
Same here, slightly elevated but not knowledgeable in this area.

Liver Function AST/ALT
Beats the shit out of me. As previously stated no methylated orals in a long time. My numbers have always been slightly above range no matter what, running orals or not, but I attribute this higher number to working out the morning of blood draw which is always the case. The morning of this blood draw I had a very intense workout

Estradiol
I am not running an AI and that number of 38 pg/ml is good with me.

Testosterone
Nice middle of the road number at 600 ng/dl, that will not freak out the doctor so waiting 7 days for blood draw was a good decision, I have to give myself some credit

Great post Skip

BUN/Creatinine/Blood Urea Nitrogen elevation may have something to do with your level of hydration or lack there of. A thought.

And your diet. I've had those test high while off gear and my doc said it was likely due to my high protein diet and intense training

I've said it before, but your labs are always great posts and the knowledge base you help to create by keeping protocols and labbing more than just the standard test E/C is invaluable to the community, especially using V's gear which gives a reliable baseline for evaluation. I know I personally use your results to help evaluate my own. Thanks again.

Some of you guys absolutely amaze me with your knowledge of our sport. I salute all of you!

Damgar said:

I've said it before, but your labs are always great posts and the knowledge base you help to create by keeping protocols and labbing more than just the standard test E/C is invaluable to the community, especially using V's gear which gives a reliable baseline for evaluation. I know I personally use your results to help evaluate my own. Thanks again.

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Thanks Damgar!

I know we have had a few convos off and on and you helped dial me in on several points regarding lab work which makes for great team work

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ClintEastwood said:

Some of you guys absolutely amaze me with your knowledge of our sport. I salute all of you!

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Thanks Clint!

Oh and BTW, I still have lots to learn but that is what this place is all about.

I spoke to a cardiac specialist about labs and the effect of being a BBer might have on them and mine in particular . On BUN he told me one of the factors of elevation as mine always are is the large amount of lean body mass . Also diet . If I haven't eaten and am going into a catabolic state , breaking down muscle to get aminos it will show elevated BUN levels . Also if I have worked out in the previous 24 hrs it will also elevate BUN along with those liver values . Creatinine levels are effected by hydration a lot . Since then I always put down a liter or two of water on the way to a blood draw and all my markers are better . It was very interesting to hear about all the ways our lifestyle can effect labs , not just the use of PEDs . As always Skip a very good write up with lot's of good info and insight .
Tipp from AY is hands down my fav test these days . I like it at about 750mg/wk with TPA at 350mg/wk . Did that this last winter bulk and holy moley !!!!

l69lou said:

I spoke to a cardiac specialist about labs and the effect of being a BBer might have on them and mine in particular . On BUN he told me one of the factors of elevation as mine always are is the large amount of lean body mass . Also diet . If I haven't eaten and am going into a catabolic state , breaking down muscle to get aminos it will show elevated BUN levels . Also if I have worked out in the previous 24 hrs it will also elevate BUN along with those liver values . Creatinine levels are effected by hydration a lot . Since then I always put down a liter or two of water on the way to a blood draw and all my markers are better . It was very interesting to hear about all the ways our lifestyle can effect labs , not just the use of PEDs . As always Skip a very good write up with lot's of good info and insight .
Tipp from AY is hands down my fav test these days . I like it at about 750mg/wk with TPA at 350mg/wk . Did that this last winter bulk and holy moley !!!!

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Big Lou!!!

You are singing my tune regarding the TPA/TIPP combination. This winter I am set up to run NPP with the TIPP/TPA combination. My sweet spot for test is lower than yours at 700mg a week, I will probably run 50/50 TPA/TIPP at 350mg each with NPP also at 350mg a week.

I like both TIPP and TPA as I get no bloat off of either compound like I do with Test E.

I have Googled high values for BUN and creatinine and pretty found what you and Bar Belle stated. I will give the doctor full disclosure on what is going on and make sure to get his opinion.

Thanks!

Great report as always Skip.As you know AY TIPP and TPA are two of my favories- Appreciated-OD

Great write up, ill have to try some soon!

bar_belle said:

BUN/Creatinine/Blood Urea Nitrogen elevation may have something to do with your level of hydration or lack there of. A thought.

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I had this exact same thought when reading the OP

Hydration and high protein intake along with steroid use will raise these levels...pretty common most people doing what we do have higher levels..

Wouldnt worry about it much....drink more water..

Thanks for the input everybody, very much appreciated!