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Low T at 25

JohnRambo

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is there any real reason to not go on TRT if you are under 30 & don't want children?:thinking:

Haven t ever cycled (just have alot of cycle information/knowledge from years of studying before preparing to do a cycle)...
anyhow; I was preparing to do a cycle and in my Pre-Bloodwork... I realized I have massively low T naturally for my age.... 300's while being in my 20's
Under 30 with no goals of ever having children; 100% sure this is the case for me (vasectomy).

I'm bordering just getting on TRT rather than cycle and cycle and end up low all the time again + legally cycling would be better IMO
The last couple years I've felt shitty; but I just always assumed it was my job and work hours causing my awful sleep patterns/insomnia + mood swings and a handful of other sides that have just been driving me crazy...:wits:

any advice thanks guys..
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If you wanna feel average, fuck ya, TRT all the way bro! But if you have no interest in kids and want to get huge why not just blast and cruise for a while? TRT is gonna shut what little test you have down anyway. But it's really up to you and what your goals are.
 
Why does it matter if you want to have kids? With the drugs we have available to us in this day and age, you will have a good possibility of being able to become fertile even if you blast and cruise.
 
I have no interest in kids and as mentioned above I don't plan on ever having any....
I was planning hopefully getting legal TRT and doing blast/cruise with UGL but at least this way I have a legal script etc
especially because I figure TRT is my route and it's most likely 99% the reason I've been been feelin like shit the last years...
So far I'm in the thought that il talk to the doctors and try and if there's no way then il just say f it cuz I already know I'm low for me and il do a self-ministered TRT until I'm older and can be on legal TRT along with my added for when I lift
 
I have no interest in kids and as mentioned above I don't plan on ever having any....
I was planning hopefully getting legal TRT and doing blast/cruise with UGL but at least this way I have a legal script etc
especially because I figure TRT is my route and it's most likely 99% the reason I've been been feelin like shit the last years...
So far I'm in the thought that il talk to the doctors and try and if there's no way then il just say f it cuz I already know I'm low for me and il do a self-ministered TRT until I'm older and can be on legal TRT along with my added for when I lift

Yea I got that. I was just saying if you ever want to have kids, we have drugs that help with that. People are in the mindset that if you do trt you won't ever be fertile, that is very far from the truth.
 
Yea I got that. I was just saying if you ever want to have kids, we have drugs that help with that. People are in the mindset that if you do trt you won't ever be fertile, that is very far from the truth.

Awesome... Ya is hcg alright to stay on permanently with TRT.... It would just semi suck to be perma rocking raisins... I wouldn't mind having my balls at regular size tho lol
I'm trying to find a doc who is familiar with this in my region... I don't even mind driving because once I'm set up I should be gtg and self administer then blast/cruise or wtvr and just get regular monitoring/bloodwork
 
Awesome... Ya is hcg alright to stay on permanently with TRT.... It would just semi suck to be perma rocking raisins... I wouldn't mind having my balls at regular size tho lol
I'm trying to find a doc who is familiar with this in my region... I don't even mind driving because once I'm set up I should be gtg and self administer then blast/cruise or wtvr and just get regular monitoring/bloodwork

To be honest man, I just stopped caring about having small balls lol
 
This is what I did. I'm 27 yrs old. I've been looking into cycling for the last few years. I had my T levels checked at 22 yrs old and they came back at 380. I ultimately decided not to start TRT mainly because of my age. I got tested again this year, and result was 421. To qualify for therapy on my insurance I needed to be under 425. Boom!! This time around I'm much more serious about lifting, have pretty much decided I won't be having kids, and I no longer have a girlfriend telling me what I can and can't do. So, I started TRT. I say- go for it!

On a side note: I was really surprised when I learned I had low T. I'm a pretty muscular dude, even before I started lifting, I've got a voice like Barry White and I've had a full beard since I was 16.
 
I'm in the same boat as the op, Mike but I'm 30 and found out 2 weeks ago that I'm in the low 300's. I'm trying to get into my doctor to talk to him about it and have been reading a ton of articles and stuff about trt. Like Mike I myself am very muscular and was surprised that my T level was low but it explains why I've felt like shit and have been very moody and can't sleep well the last year or so. Anyway I'm a little nervous to talk to the doctor about it what are some questions I should ask and what's the best way to bring it up? Doctors in my area funny about meds and things like that I wish I was in a better area for stuff like this.
 
This is what I did. I'm 27 yrs old. I've been looking into cycling for the last few years. I had my T levels checked at 22 yrs old and they came back at 380. I ultimately decided not to start TRT mainly because of my age. I got tested again this year, and result was 421. To qualify for therapy on my insurance I needed to be under 425. Boom!! This time around I'm much more serious about lifting, have pretty much decided I won't be having kids, and I no longer have a girlfriend telling me what I can and can't do. So, I started TRT. I say- go for it!

On a side note: I was really surprised when I learned I had low T. I'm a pretty muscular dude, even before I started lifting, I've got a voice like Barry White and I've had a full beard since I was 16.

I'm in the same boat as the op, Mike but I'm 30 and found out 2 weeks ago that I'm in the low 300's. I'm trying to get into my doctor to talk to him about it and have been reading a ton of articles and stuff about trt. Like Mike I myself am very muscular and was surprised that my T level was low but it explains why I've felt like shit and have been very moody and can't sleep well the last year or so. Anyway I'm a little nervous to talk to the doctor about it what are some questions I should ask and what's the best way to bring it up? Doctors in my area funny about meds and things like that I wish I was in a better area for stuff like this.


Same things guys... I've actually managed to hold a good build maintain around 6% summers and 8% year round with such low levels that's why I always thought it was environment or overworking myself etc.... Tested twice and it's low T on both so I went a doc and got an official testosterone + free test and low... FSH/LH is all in check so it's not shutdown just low production.... Got an apt with a male hormone specialist who is also an athletes doctor and hopefully he doesn't balk to TRT....

blast & cruising will just be easier in the long run + this way you have a legal backup for any legality issues or if you hve to travel with vials or recieve any or even for certain tests....

freaky what area are you in? P.s. - You can pm me if you need anything tho
 
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Rambo did you see a D.O. or M.D.? Did you request the testing yourself or was this part of an appointment with a specialist? I'm thinking of making an appointment with a D.O. in my network, but wondering if I should run my own tests first and bring them to the office, or just have them run them there. Also does each insurance company set its own cap on acceptable levels or is it the doc?
 
Rambo did you see a D.O. or M.D.? Did you request the testing yourself or was this part of an appointment with a specialist? I'm thinking of making an appointment with a D.O. in my network, but wondering if I should run my own tests first and bring them to the office, or just have them run them there. Also does each insurance company set its own cap on acceptable levels or is it the doc?

Doctors won't approve a testosterone test for anyone under like 35/40 because it costs more for insurance and is deemed not necessary since most males won't have any hormone issues til later in life (basically around the whole prostate exam age)....

take your own blood test.... Do a female panel at quest laboratories and then take those results to doctor (only if low) and with those he has reason to approve an insurance testosterone test and you will basically redo the test but this time documented on insurance dime for TRT possibilities....
if your own bloodwork comes decent or high there is no point going to doctor as TRT isn't approved until you are pretty low and the bloodwork would show you higher anyways so just go on your own TRT or cycle and when the eventual happens then you do it that way because almost every AAS user will eventually have diminished test levels or go on TRT... Usually...
 
Same things guys... I've actually managed to hold a good build maintain around 6% summers and 8% year round with such low levels that's why I always thought it was environment or overworking myself etc.... Tested twice and it's low T on both so I went a doc and got an official testosterone + free test and low... FSH/LH is all in check so it's not shutdown just low production.... Got an apt with a male hormone specialist who is also an athletes doctor and hopefully he doesn't balk to TRT....

blast & cruising will just be easier in the long run + this way you have a legal backup for any legality issues or if you hve to travel with vials or recieve any or even for certain tests....

freaky what area are you in? P.s. - You can pm me if you need anything tho

Rambo I'm around the Oh, Ky, WV area most people know it as little Detroit because of the flood of drugs coming in. Which sucks cuz this area was really nice until that started. The doctors around here don't know a lot about trt so I think most are scared to write script for it and they are tired of seeing people just looking for meds. Hopefully I can convince my Dr into it if know I'm going to spectrum hrt out of Miami.
 
I'm 24 and been on a year and a half now . Got a bun in the oven... It's possible guys oh yeah and I was on about 600 mg of tren at the time too
 
Why does it matter if you want to have kids? With the drugs we have available to us in this day and age, you will have a good possibility of being able to become fertile even if you blast and cruise.

Can anyone back this up? This is the only reason I'm not cruising.


3492 out
 
Im 20 and was born with a condition that unfortunately caused me to have low T. Unfortunately here in the UK TRT is not something doctors seem to be willing to prescribe.

I now blast and cruise and feel incredible. HCG therapy is very effective as a fertility drug.

Best of luck bro
 
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