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buildingup
06-01-2014, 08:17 PM
I am dosing 500mg week test e with 1000iu pregnyl and 12.5mg day proviron. My question is, Is proviron mesterolone a good AI? My friend who has run more than a few cycles told me its crap and I am not benefiting from it and need to be running Arimidex or anadrol. I am only 2.5 weeks into my cycle and dont wanna waste it. any advice is much appreciated.

KCBARBELLJOE
06-01-2014, 08:45 PM
while proviron does have anti e abilities, compared to an actual AI it is shit.
Also 12.5mg ED is super low.
Usually ran around 25-100mg ED
Also anadrol will do nothing for controlling Estradiol. Probably make it worse
I personally use Aromasin (Exemestane) at 12.5mg ED. I recommend you do the same
Others use Arimidex (Anastrozole) at .25 EOD or .5 E3D

Either drop or up the proviron. But don't think of it as a Estradiol blocker, more so to up free test and the "other" benefits.

Unlisted
06-01-2014, 09:20 PM
this^^^

buildingup
06-01-2014, 09:20 PM
thanks. the first cycle sticky got changed. it used to say ai not aromasin, so i just got the proviron. thanks again I will pick it up and up the pro until i get it

JRotten
06-01-2014, 09:32 PM
1000iu of HCG is way too much for an entire cycle. Overdoing HCG can desensitize your leydig cells which is worse than letting them shut down. 500-700 a week max is all you need to keep the boys awake.

buildingup
06-01-2014, 10:15 PM
Thanks. I will cut to 500iu a week. I was just going off the sticky for first cycle. Thanks again.

Paranoid Fitness
06-01-2014, 10:43 PM
Proviron is NOT an AI (aromatase inhibitor).
Anti-estrogenic effects of Proviron are widely exaggerated IMO.
Do not rely on Proviron as an anti-estrogen.

Don't start a cycle without an AI on hand.
500mg Test shouldn't require more than 12.5mg/day (split into two doses) of Aromasin.
Some would say 12.5mg EOD depending on estro sides.

If you're going to run Proviron...an androgen...up it to at least 50mg/day or drop it altogether.
It may help improve vascularity if that's what you're after.
It will help with libido but you're not running anything that really messes with libido...it should be fine with all the extra Test in your system.

If someone told you to run Anadrol as an anti-estrogen, they're nuts.

Don't start the HCG until your 5th or 6th week and run it at 500iu/wk (2x250iu) as previously mentioned.
Run the HCG up to PCT but not during PCT.

How long is your cycle?
I'd recommend 16 weeks.

What are you hoping to achieve with this cycle?

theCaptn'
06-02-2014, 01:49 AM
^^^ good coverage there. From personal experience proviron even at 100mg won't cover your anti-e requirements

oufinny
06-02-2014, 06:54 AM
1000iu of HCG is way too much for an entire cycle. Overdoing HCG can desensitize your leydig cells which is worse than letting them shut down. 500-700 a week max is all you need to keep the boys awake.

This is so wrong it's ridiculous. Any real expert, we call them doctors, will a state that to maintain sperm production in the presence of an outside androgen you need 1000-1500iu a week. Run the 1000iu the whole time and into week 2 of PCT. The bro-logic here is so strong it's mind numbing.