Yes but considering it can give near identical results to anavar for what, 1/5 of the price, it's a very serious option. Iron Mags and Blackstone Labs sell good stuff and though it is a DS/PH, you cannot discount it works. The it has to an an AAS oral or its not worth it argument makes me laugh when drugs like M-sten, DMZ, Superdrol etc are out there and are far better options for many than dbol or drol and sure as shit easier to come by.