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MakeItMethylated
10-17-2012, 05:15 AM
I am debating on Crusing

I believe I have a child on the way so I won't feel guilty about that

I have multiple sclerosis and I heard about the trials with testosterone at crusing mg dose

I hear deca is one of the best anti inflammatory drugs out there which will help the lesions on my brain dramatically

I am currently running it on cycle and I feel incredible

I am only 21 but under the circumstances with my disease I feel like this would be the best thing for me to do.

I feel a lot worse off the gear

Please help me decide

Thanks, really appreciate any input

Deja Vu
10-18-2012, 05:36 PM
I cruise on 200 test and 100 deca. Feel fantastic. Just get regular bloodwork.


But at your age I would do pct and fully recover.

MakeItMethylated
10-18-2012, 05:38 PM
I cruise on 200 test and 100 deca. Feel fantastic. Just get regular bloodwork.


But at your age I would do pct and fully recover.

They are using HRT for my disease more and more each day

This is why I am interested

gabe walker
10-19-2012, 12:11 PM
Discuss it with your Dr. before you decide to go off on your ownThere are numerous studies supporting your claim as well as your subjective claims of how you "feel". So, your Dr. may be on board with TRT.

RAINier
10-19-2012, 12:14 PM
I'd say "go for it" except for your age and MS, so I'm hesitant.

Have you read the scientific literature or papers? Link me a couple of those papers about AAS and MS.

gabe walker
10-19-2012, 12:35 PM
Have you tried any nootropics, like piracetam, oxiracetam, or even vinpocetine and Noopept. inorder to increase blood flow to the brain? I've noticed there is a controversial surgical procedure being done in some countries outside of the US where the Surgeon opens up the veins in the neck in an attempt to increase blood flow to the brain.. The MS Society is currently investigating the procedure..

MakeItMethylated
10-19-2012, 12:52 PM
Discuss it with your Dr. before you decide to go off on your ownThere are numerous studies supporting your claim as well as your subjective claims of how you "feel". So, your Dr. may be on board with TRT.

May need to get a new neurologist for it to happen

MakeItMethylated
10-19-2012, 12:56 PM
I'd say "go for it" except for your age and MS, so I'm hesitant.

Have you read the scientific literature or papers? Link me a couple of those papers about AAS and MS.

I found one thing so far

I read more on it though
http://archneur.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=793883

gabe walker
10-19-2012, 01:06 PM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17502467
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19660660
http://jnnp.bmj.com/content/76/2/272.short
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11499404
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14698857

MakeItMethylated
10-22-2012, 05:23 AM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17502467
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19660660
http://jnnp.bmj.com/content/76/2/272.short
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11499404
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14698857

Thank you begging my Neuro again this Friday

Gonna tell him I self medicate with testosterone

If he doesn't agree time for a new Neuro

gabe walker
10-24-2012, 09:56 AM
Hell yes!!!!...

It's your body, take control of your health. know as much as possible, question EVERYTHING your Dr says.. I prefer a younger Dr myself, they are more likely to new, investigational, experimental, cutting edge therapies and treatments...

MakeItMethylated
10-24-2012, 10:36 AM
Hell yes!!!!...

It's your body, take control of your health. know as much as possible, question EVERYTHING your Dr says.. I prefer a younger Dr myself, they are more likely to new, investigational, experimental, cutting edge therapies and treatments...

Thanks for the positive remarks

Ill keep ya posted on what my Neuro says

Bringing him all those Articles

gabe walker
10-24-2012, 02:18 PM
also, have you considered or tried Low Dose Naltrexone therapy for your MS?

Prevention and diminished expression of experiment... [Brain Res. 2011] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21256121)
Pilot trial of low-dose naltrexone and quality of ... [Ann Neurol. 2010] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20695007)
The effect of low-dose naltrexone on quality of li... [Mult Scler. 2010] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20534644)
Endogenous opioids regulate expression of experime... [Exp Biol Med (Maywood). 2009] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19855075)
A pilot trial of low-dose naltrexone in primary pr... [Mult Scler. 2008] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18728058)
Low dose naltrexone therapy in multiple sclerosis. [Med Hypotheses. 2005] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15694688)

MakeItMethylated
10-24-2012, 02:20 PM
also, have you considered or tried Low Dose Naltrexone therapy for your MS?

Prevention and diminished expression of experiment... [Brain Res. 2011] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21256121)
Pilot trial of low-dose naltrexone and quality of ... [Ann Neurol. 2010] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20695007)
The effect of low-dose naltrexone on quality of li... [Mult Scler. 2010] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20534644)
Endogenous opioids regulate expression of experime... [Exp Biol Med (Maywood). 2009] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19855075)
A pilot trial of low-dose naltrexone in primary pr... [Mult Scler. 2008] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18728058)
Low dose naltrexone therapy in multiple sclerosis. [Med Hypotheses. 2005] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15694688)

No I haven't ever heard of it

Right now I use gilenya

gabe walker
10-24-2012, 02:38 PM
Damn powerful drug....LDN therapy would be adjuvant.. may help to relieve some symptoms..

MakeItMethylated
10-24-2012, 02:39 PM
Even with gilenya I get symptoms with changing of seasons

Ill bring up all of this to my Neuro

MakeItMethylated
10-31-2012, 09:46 AM
My Neuro doesn't condone the use of AAS but he said as long as I'm healthy he won't try to stop me

I decided I'm going to cruise after this cycle, first with 250 test e a week and see how I feel, if I don't feel as good as I do now I'm going to add 100 a week of deca

Input would be appreciated

gabe walker
10-31-2012, 10:32 AM
Good to hear :) .....I's amazing what doctors approve/disapprove...How long you plan on cruising, indefinitely like TRT or short term between cycles, possible attempt at recovery in the future? Will you be doing your own lab work or will your Neuro cooperate with your endeavor, labs or even write scripts for ya? Would he be willing to refer you to an Endo for overall management? You may want to start @ a lower weekly dose of test though like 100mg/wk like TRT. You can always up the dosage much easier than working your way down...

A lot of questions, but it's a lot to think about since you are considering much longer term... Keep your dr informed he may come around and be more helpful in the future...

Qwai Chang
02-07-2013, 02:08 AM
I am debating on Crusing

I believe I have a child on the way so I won't feel guilty about that

I have multiple sclerosis and I heard about the trials with testosterone at crusing mg dose

I hear deca is one of the best anti inflammatory drugs out there which will help the lesions on my brain dramatically

I am currently running it on cycle and I feel incredible

I am only 21 but under the circumstances with my disease I feel like this would be the best thing for me to do.

I feel a lot worse off the gear

Please help me decide

Thanks, really appreciate any input

Go with deca because it's long lasting, get Test E, Super Test, dbol and tbol tablets, anavar, anadrol, and a gallon of water a day.
I've been cruising since January 6, 2006 and I don't plan to stop!

zedhed
02-08-2013, 11:07 AM
Hey make how you doing on this?
Have you considered a long ester test such as deconate?
Fewer injections for you during the week bro.

MakeItMethylated
02-08-2013, 01:44 PM
Hey make how you doing on this?
Have you considered a long ester test such as deconate?
Fewer injections for you during the week bro.

Doing good in a blast right now

I should consider test deconate for sure

Thanks

Qwai Chang
02-10-2013, 10:19 AM
I'm dropping down my injections to 1,000mg/ml. every 10 ten to 15 days with a good reduction in orals. Protein and supp. intake will be increased as well as more juice, whey, any water.