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When to run HCG?

HCG during cycle or while ester clears?


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Ok, so I just turned 25. Got a couple cycles under my belt.

I really want kids some day and don't wanna go nuts out and make that an impossibility.

I always take HCG during cycle but have been reading lately about how this might not be best.

The reason I'm concerned is that I have made the decision to compete and plan to blast cruise for a show next summer.


Should HCG be taken during cycle or blasted while the ester clears?

I will make a poll but will also need clarification on what is done if cruising and blasting? Say good bye to my balls? Like I said I want kids but don't want to ruin my receptors either.

Thank you
 
Rich piana has a good video on this topic with ric drasin check it out on YouTube


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8 minutes into the video bro


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Hmmm good info there. I'm however more worried about least amount of trama to the testes than anything. It make sense to me that if they are kept awake during cycle, then sterility is less likely. Although I'm sure the chance isn't all that high anway.
 
I've read anything from:

- you don't need it during basic shorter cycles.

- shutting off your testes and allowing them to atrophy is not a good thing

- it will cause leydig cell desensitization if taken for extended periods

- people have a variety of opinions on how long it takes for that to occur at smaller doses

-i could be remembering wrong but I'm pretty sure there was a study where people took it for over 3 months and were fine (leydig wise)

Basically there's a lot of conflicting info out there. Lots of different opinions. Spending a few days to read through actual studies, anecdotal evidence, and experienced vets thoughts is worth it.
 
Yea I need to figure out if there is a good protocol for hcg while cruising but I don't see that likely from what I've read. Already been on hcg for almost 3 months. I don't think another year would be a great idea.
 
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Ok, listen up everyone. Every top level Restart Specialist or Endocrinologist does as follows and recommends this:

On Cycle: Run 250iu of HCG 3x's a week
Cruising: Run 250iu of HCG 2x's a week
Ester Clearing: Same of Cruising
PCT: Stop when you first start PCT

The whole point of HCG is to prevent failure of the Leydig Cells in the testicles. Think of it this way, trying to start up a dead engine. Too late it's DEAD which makes thing far more difficult. If you follow the above protocol, you're testes will never even know they were shut down and PCT will be a breeze. It also makes your cycle SO MUCH smoother! Take it from practical application based on scientific knowledge.

Add 1.5mL of water to a 5000iu of HCG and draw up to tick mark 8. Its not much fluid but will get you close to 250iu with minimal hassle.

*Once again this is a lot of new research. Many TRT docs have recognized that TRT makes the low T issue worse with time and are trying to reverse this issue.
 
^^^I agree with this thinking. A way I was told to look at it is, to think of them like a tire that's losing air. Would you rather fix a flat tire, or maintain the tire so it never goes flat to begin with.

Rich does talk about how using hCG during the cycle will "confuse" the body. That steroids tell the body to shut down, and hCG tell the body to start up.

But I will still continue to use hCG during the cycle
 
^^^I agree with this thinking. A way I was told to look at it is, to think of them like a tire that's losing air. Would you rather fix a flat tire, or maintain the tire so it never goes flat to begin with.

Rich does talk about how using hCG during the cycle will "confuse" the body. That steroids tell the body to shut down, and hCG tell the body to start up.

But I will still continue to use hCG during the cycle

The good thing is it's a low enough dose to not cause any issues or bizarre sides yet it is just enough to keep the LH stimulated and the Leydig Cells fully functional. Plus, still having your natty test while on is something I only thought was magical =)

It truly makes your cycle so much more enjoyable not being shut down.
 
Ok, listen up everyone. Every top level Restart Specialist or Endocrinologist does as follows and recommends this:

On Cycle: Run 250iu of HCG 3x's a week
Cruising: Run 250iu of HCG 2x's a week
Ester Clearing: Same of Cruising
PCT: Stop when you first start PCT

The whole point of HCG is to prevent failure of the Leydig Cells in the testicles. Think of it this way, trying to start up a dead engine. Too late it's DEAD which makes thing far more difficult. If you follow the above protocol, you're testes will never even know they were shut down and PCT will be a breeze. It also makes your cycle SO MUCH smoother! Take it from practical application based on scientific knowledge.

Add 1.5mL of water to a 5000iu of HCG and draw up to tick mark 8. Its not much fluid but will get you close to 250iu with minimal hassle.

*Once again this is a lot of new research. Many TRT docs have recognized that TRT makes the low T issue worse with time and are trying to reverse this issue.


So what you're saying is that a person "cruising and blasting" would run 250iu hcg twice weekly in cruise period on say 250mg test/week and run 250iu hcg thrice weekly while on a blast?

That makes sense. I'll just feel much better running hcg while doing this. I feel less chance of going sterile if my boys are always awake!
 
Thanks for the video.. I'm no fag but I have to say that guy rich looks sick!! I think I got a new motivator in his size and the tats!!!


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Thanks for the video.. I'm no fag but I have to say that guy rich looks sick!! I think I got a new motivator in his size and the tats!!!


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lmao "I'm no fag" :roflmao: Man its ok to appreciate a bros work and say "fuck him, probably does steroids, thats why hes bigger than me" lol
 
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