Pharmacist and docs telling me trt is dangerous!!! NEED ADVICE

My dad is 74 and was tested and levels were at 230 i think it was. They put him on trt 100mg/wk. Said he like to get him between 350-600. I know with this dose he will be in the upper range of that but other docs that aren't specialist and even the pharmacist is telling him that they wouldn't take it because it can cause heart attacks, strokes and other issues. I told him to listen to his specialist that what they specialize in. He says its a synthectic version of the drug and its not the same as what your body produces when i try to explain there just putting back in what its lacking. They have him scared up now and he needs it. Very moody, weak, tired all the time and no interest in sex. Whats your thoughts on this? Are these pharmacist correct and other docs that are telling him its more dangerous than it is good? I told him without it i can't fuction and life was awful and to give it a chance and then decide. I did find some info saying men with levels 500 or higher or more likely to suffer from strokes and heart attacks but i dont if i agree. Whats the forum's thought on this??

I would make sure that he's going to a top notch Endocrinologist and that there are no,additional, underlying problems. HRT is for quality of life and the older you get, the more important that is.

There are some studies that link TRT to increased risk for heart attack and stroke, but they presume underlying conditions. What kind of health is your dad in? If he has a bunch of health issues, TRT isn't going to be a panacea. You might also want to consider his activity level in thinking about this. Some 70yr olds go to the gym every day, while others go to Denny's. The first group would have more use for TRT.

Higher t levels can lead to increased BP and coll levels as well as other things. If anyone on this board tries to give you advice on this without knowing your 74 y/o dads full medical history he/she is an idiot.

Go the a top notch endo like stated above. He should pull his full medical history as well as a full physical exam including blood. If all checks out and he recommends trt i would trust his opinion over a normal doc.

I feel your pain with your Dad. My Mom fights using all the help that modern medicine provides and makes both me and her miserable.

As far as using "synthetic" drugs: Drugs have contributed to people are living longer now more than ever. Does he take aspirin? a statin? antidepressant? All drugs have potential side effects but what about the benefits?

Testosterone is testosterone. The difference being the delivery system for injecting testosterone over your body producing it naturally. When injecting testosterone there is an ester attached. In his case it would be Test-E or Test-C. When injected into your muscle, it is a simple process of the enzymes in the muscle that cuts away and dissolves the ester. After that all you have is the testosterone.

I know you and everybody here knows this but I would try and simplify it for your Dad so he understands. As far as sides? To me the benefits out weigh the potential sides and there are ways to monitor sides.

I wish you the best of luck, talking an elderly parent into doing the right thing medically can be a frustrating experience.

shift said:

Higher t levels can lead to increased BP and coll levels as well as other things. If anyone on this board tries to give you advice on this without knowing your 74 y/o dads full medical history he/she is an idiot.

Go the a top notch endo like stated above. He should pull his full medical history as well as a full physical exam including blood. If all checks out and he recommends trt i would trust his opinion over a normal doc.

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I completely agree with Shift....

This is one of those times in someone's life where there are a multitude of factors to consider before you make a decision, because that decision could be a life changing one. It could be a life changing one for the better or for the worse. Your father and only your father should decide if the benefits outweigh any possible risks. Only he and his Doctor know his complete medical history and whether or not he already has certain conditions that may put him at a higher risk of negative side effects. There are tons of studies that show the benefits of testosterone therapy for older men, and there are plenty of risk factors as well. He and he alone should decide.....

My dad is in good health. He is pretty active too but dont go to the gym. He does walk every day and still works so he is pretty active for his age. His blood pressure is a tad high but thats it. Probably because his low levels. He backed out today and didn't get his second shot. He got his first shot last friday. He listens to many others and let them dictate his decision over the endo. Hell i am going to go to his endo because he gave my dad more than my own doc gives me (100mg eow). I read these responses to him also so thanks for your help. I told him he would have been better off not taking the first shot.

LOL, it's unhealthy to have LOW T levels!!!

My god there is so much fucking ignorance out there about AAS, makes me sick.

Aristotle said:

LOL, it's unhealthy to have LOW T levels!!!

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THIS!!! My blood pressure has IMPROVED since starting TRT. As well as many other health markers.

I was was almost scared off TRT in the beginning by an ignorant ER doc who went out of his way to try to convince me that no one should EVER be on testosterone even if a young man has T lower than that of a 90 yr old woman. But lucky for me I was to a point where I was miserable enough with lowT that I didn't care anymore. So I kept on TRT and did more research and guess what, there are a lot of health problems linked to Low T.

If you are working with a doctor and have your T levels inside a healthy normal range I would stick with TRT for both health and quality of life. Both should be much better with normal T levels vs. lowT

I have to say I am shocked at some of the responses here. Guys that juice WAY over TRT levels saying don't do it, could be bad and so on.

As somebody who has suffered from low-T (I was at 210) all I can say is crash your test levels to 200 and see if your answers are the same.

Oh, and my doctor said i'm fine at 210. Even though I like the guy and I have been seeing him for over 20 years, he doesn't know shit about TRT like most doctors not to mention a pharmacist-LOL!

Blood pressure? Cholesterol? PSAs? All have been great while on TRT doses.

At least try it before saying no, it's a life changer!