Propionyltrenbolone?

TheDieselZ · Sep 15, 2012

Anybody heard about this new release? Apparently legit oral tren without being harsh on the liver?

Extremely skeptical but some people on another forum were talking about how awesome it is.

Dannie · Sep 15, 2012

TheDieselZ said:
Anybody heard about this new release? Apparently legit oral tren without being harsh on the liver?

Extremely skeptical but some people on another forum were talking about how awesome it is.

I am sceptical too, I was going yo buy but decided to wait until I see a ptren log of some reputable person (who is not associated with one ptren sellers).

big and swole · Sep 15, 2012

This exactly ^^^

colochine · Sep 15, 2012

Lots of logs out there gents. Only one company I know of that has legit ptren though.

overburdened · Sep 15, 2012

Dannie said:
I am sceptical too, I was going yo buy but decided to wait until I see a ptren log of some reputable person (who is not associated with one ptren sellers).

There is only ONE legitimate seller! if you are receiving mass pm's trying to sell it to you... it is not airsealed2, and it may or may not be ptren... there is someone that apparently had his supplement manufacturer 'make' some for him... this is NOT associated with airsealed2, and may or may not be ptren...

There are plenty of logs regarding ptren from people that payed for the product, and logged their results. All you need to do is look around and you will find TONS!!! I am airsealed's only rep, and I did log it(in my log, many people that bought the product did add to my log regarding their experiences with it)... there are also at least 15-20 people that ran their own logs...

airsealed2 is the only sponsor that is carrying legitimate ptren(that I know of...) I do know that someone is mass PMing people with something to the effect of trying to sell 'what his supp manufacturer made'... I cannot say for sure, because he has not provided a sample, or even a picture of what his 'ptren' looks like, but I do find it hard to believe that a supplement manufacturer would even be able to come close to attaining the product, or the products to synthesize this product....

TheDieselZ · Sep 15, 2012

The logs seem too good to be true lol.

RAINier · Sep 15, 2012

I'm skeptical to say the least.

Dannie · Sep 15, 2012

TheDieselZ said:
The logs seem too good to be true lol.

I agree - what comes to my mind is why we haven't all heard about it before - according to Patrick Arnold its not a new compound that has been just invented.

I would love to see a log by some of the big veterans from here or IM.
0.5g would be more than plenty for a log, its $20 worth or so, surely a good investment as such a log would increase sales... unless the gear is bunk and its all just a big hype then its understandable.

OverB, don't take it the wrong way, I have got a lot of respect for you, it's not an attack on you or the company you are repping for.
I am just questioning the product.

BTW BodyBuilding Powder also stocks ptren.

colochine · Sep 15, 2012

Goldnera from IM has ran ptren from airsealed. He's had amazing results.

FYI if OB is talking you all should be listening be what he is saying is the fucking truth and I'll vouch for him any day.

RAINier · Sep 15, 2012

I'd like to see these logs. Got any links OB?

Also, you should PM heavy to get the rep title added next to your name.

colochine · Sep 15, 2012

Rain I'll pm you a board there all on.

RAINier · Sep 15, 2012

colochine said:
Rain I'll pm you a board there all on.

Sounds like we need a log of our own. What would airsealed think about the idea?

colochine · Sep 18, 2012

Some one quick... whats the difference between propionyl ester and allyl ester?

RAINier · Sep 18, 2012

colochine said:
Some one quick... whats the difference between propionyl ester and allyl ester?

They're very different structurally...

Allyl trenbolone, aka altrenogest you're talking about?

colochine · Sep 18, 2012

RAINier said:
They're very different structurally...

Allyl trenbolone, aka altrenogest you're talking about?

Please link me to the structures?

I know what altrenogest is.

GSRacer · Sep 18, 2012

colochine said:
Some one quick... whats the difference between propionyl ester and allyl ester?

My orgo is rusty. Google it, punk.

colochine · Sep 18, 2012

RAINier said:
They're very different structurally...

Allyl trenbolone, aka altrenogest you're talking about?

Structurally I'd expect them to be very similar actually as the only difference should be the ester attached to the actual molecule which is rather small. 3 carbon atoms.

colochine · Sep 18, 2012

GSRacer said:
My orgo is rusty. Google it, punk.

Lol don't make me come at you bro!

I haven't looked at organic about 7 years google doesn't recognize propionyl as an ester....hmmm

Pm me GSracer if you want to know what I think is going on.

Philz · Sep 18, 2012

colochine said:
Rain I'll pm you a board there all on.

PM me too please

GSRacer · Sep 18, 2012

colochine · Sep 18, 2012

Philz said:
PM me too please

Get your post count above 10 and I will.

RAINier · Sep 18, 2012

http://www.chemindustry.com/chemicals/0366241.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altrenogest
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Altrenogest.png

Proprionyl trenbolone
http://i45.tinypic.com/20r9stl.jpg

I have a feeling that the allyl will cause problems with binding to the AR. Would be a bad one for gains I feel.

colochine · Sep 18, 2012

You posted the same structures for each it looks like from my phone. Where did u find the structure from ptren?

colochine · Sep 18, 2012

That's what they say on PHF...

RAINier · Sep 18, 2012

colochine said:
You posted the same structures for each it looks like from my phone. Where did u find the structure from ptren?

You're right, I searched google images for ptren and it was the first result. Probably should have checked!

This is the propionyl ester (3 carbons!), attach that to trenbolone and you've got it.
http://www.ebi.ac.uk/chebi/displayI...rue&imageIndex=0&chebiId=26294&dimensions=400

colochine · Sep 18, 2012

RAINier said:
You're right, I searched google images for ptren and it was the first result. Probably should have checked!

This is the propionyl ester (3 carbons!), attach that to trenbolone and you've got it.
http://www.ebi.ac.uk/chebi/displayI...rue&imageIndex=0&chebiId=26294&dimensions=400

What type of functional group is propionyl? Where getting somewhere now.

GSRacer · Sep 18, 2012

It is common practice for US pharmaceutical companies to add a bullshit compound to an existing drug to deal with a patent expiration. Then, they can re-market essentially the same drug under a new name.

Bravo to Colochine for recognizing that propionyl tren is the same thing as allyl tren. It looks like the underground market has been taking lessons from Merck, Pfizer, Schering and all the other behemoths out there!

colochine · Sep 18, 2012

Thanks GS!! When you look at the compound of a structure their are endless possibilities at how to name them.

RAINier · Sep 18, 2012

GSRacer said:
It is common practice for US pharmaceutical companies to add a bullshit compound to an existing drug to deal with a patent expiration. Then, they can re-market essentially the same drug under a new name.

Propionyl and allyl are different groups! I'm not familiar those specific types of tren though. Best bet would be to look up studies of the effects on animals (as these are both veterinary compounds). I wouldn't be hopeful though, they seem to be used for fertility and such.

colochine · Sep 18, 2012

RAINier said:
Propionyl and allyl are different groups! I'm not familiar those specific types of tren though. Best bet would be to look up studies of the effects on animals (as these are both veterinary compounds). I wouldn't be hopeful though, they seem to be used for fertility and such.

Propionyl is an Allyl.

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