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We're all pretty familiar with varioussteroid esters and there associated half lives. After all this isnewbie stuff, right? Well, maybe, but I was a little enlightenedwhen I took the time to actually plot out a typical cycle.
To keep everything as simple aspossible lets look at a typical first cycle:
Testosterone Cypionate: 500mg/week(divided two 250mg injections weekly Mon, Thr) for 8-weeks
Most are aware the cypionate ester hasa half life of approximately 12 days. What this means is that after12 days the amount of the dose remaining in the body is reduce byfifty percent. So looking at just the first 250mg injection:
Day 1: 250mg
Day 12: 125mg
Day 24: 63mg
Day 36: 31mg
Day 48: 16mg
Day 60: 8mg
Day 72: 4mg
Day 90: 2mg
Day 102: 1mg
This first important point is that theamounts listed above are the quantities of testosterone cypionatestill in the oil depot NOT the amount of testosterone in theblood. There is a big difference as we'll soon see.
Sticking with just the first 250mginjection, on day one approximately 1/12 of half the injected amountis converted to actual testosterone and released into the blood(250mg / 2 = 125mg / 12 = 10.4mg). Note: For simplicity we'll notfactor in the weight of the ester and assume the 250mg of test-c willultimately release 250mg of testosterone. This same amount isreleased for each of the next 11 days from this dose.
Now, still looking only at the firstdose, on day 12 there is still 125mg of test-c remaining. Over thenext 12 days this will release 5.2mg per day into the blood. And 12days after that the remaining 63mg will release 2.6mg per day. Thiscontinues until the depot is completely released.
Of course we are dosing twice per week,so the initial 250mg is joined by another 250mg on days 4, 8, 11,etc. A picture is worth 1,000 words so let's take a look at how this plays out over the course of theentire cycle:
Points of interest:
To keep everything as simple aspossible lets look at a typical first cycle:
Testosterone Cypionate: 500mg/week(divided two 250mg injections weekly Mon, Thr) for 8-weeks
Most are aware the cypionate ester hasa half life of approximately 12 days. What this means is that after12 days the amount of the dose remaining in the body is reduce byfifty percent. So looking at just the first 250mg injection:
Day 1: 250mg
Day 12: 125mg
Day 24: 63mg
Day 36: 31mg
Day 48: 16mg
Day 60: 8mg
Day 72: 4mg
Day 90: 2mg
Day 102: 1mg
This first important point is that theamounts listed above are the quantities of testosterone cypionatestill in the oil depot NOT the amount of testosterone in theblood. There is a big difference as we'll soon see.
Sticking with just the first 250mginjection, on day one approximately 1/12 of half the injected amountis converted to actual testosterone and released into the blood(250mg / 2 = 125mg / 12 = 10.4mg). Note: For simplicity we'll notfactor in the weight of the ester and assume the 250mg of test-c willultimately release 250mg of testosterone. This same amount isreleased for each of the next 11 days from this dose.
Now, still looking only at the firstdose, on day 12 there is still 125mg of test-c remaining. Over thenext 12 days this will release 5.2mg per day into the blood. And 12days after that the remaining 63mg will release 2.6mg per day. Thiscontinues until the depot is completely released.
Of course we are dosing twice per week,so the initial 250mg is joined by another 250mg on days 4, 8, 11,etc. A picture is worth 1,000 words so let's take a look at how this plays out over the course of theentire cycle:
Day | Dose | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R7 | R8 | R9 | R10 | R11 | R12 | R13 | R14 | R15 | R16 | T |
W1-1 | 250 | 10 | 10.4 | |||||||||||||||
W1-2 | 10 | 10.4 | ||||||||||||||||
W1-3 | 10 | 10.4 | ||||||||||||||||
W1-4 | 250 | 10 | 10 | 20.8 | ||||||||||||||
W1-5 | 10 | 10 | 20.8 | |||||||||||||||
W1-6 | 10 | 10 | 20.8 | |||||||||||||||
W1-7 | 10 | 10 | 20.8 | |||||||||||||||
W2-1 | 250 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 31.3 | |||||||||||||
W2-2 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 31.3 | ||||||||||||||
W2-3 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 31.3 | ||||||||||||||
W2-4 | 250 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 41.7 | ||||||||||||
W2-5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 41.7 | |||||||||||||
W2-6 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 36.5 | |||||||||||||
W2-7 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 36.5 | |||||||||||||
W3-1 | 250 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 46.9 | |||||||||||
W3-2 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 41.7 | ||||||||||||
W3-3 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 41.7 | ||||||||||||
W3-4 | 250 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 52.1 | ||||||||||
W3-5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 52.1 | |||||||||||
W3-6 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 46.9 | |||||||||||
W3-7 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 46.9 | |||||||||||
W4-1 | 250 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 57.3 | |||||||||
W4-2 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 52.1 | ||||||||||
W4-3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 52.1 | ||||||||||
W4-4 | 250 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 59.9 | ||||||||
W4-5 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 59.9 | |||||||||
W4-6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 54.7 | |||||||||
W4-7 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 52.1 | |||||||||
W5-1 | 250 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 62.5 | |||||||
W5-2 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 57.3 | ||||||||
W5-3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 57.3 | ||||||||
W5-4 | 250 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 65.1 | ||||||
W5-5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 65.1 | |||||||
W5-6 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 59.9 | |||||||
W5-7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 57.3 | |||||||
W6-1 | 250 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 67.7 | |||||
W6-2 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 61.2 | ||||||
W6-3 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 61.2 | ||||||
W6-4 | 250 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 69.0 | ||||
W6-5 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 67.7 | |||||
W6-6 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 62.5 | |||||
W6-7 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 59.9 | |||||
W7-1 | 250 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 70.3 | |||
W7-2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 63.8 | ||||
W7-3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 63.8 | ||||
W7-4 | 250 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 71.6 | ||
W7-5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 70.3 | |||
W7-6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 65.1 | |||
W7-7 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 61.2 | ||||
W8-1 | 250 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 71.6 | ||
W8-2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 65.1 | |||
W8-3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 63.8 | ||||
W8-4 | 250 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 71.6 | ||
W8-5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 70.3 | |||
W8-6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 65.1 | |||
W8-7 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 61.2 | ||||
W9-1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 61.2 | ||||
W9-2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 54.7 | ||||
W9-3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 53.4 | |||||
W9-4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 50.8 | |||||
W9-5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 49.5 | |||||
W9-5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 44.3 | |||||
W9-7 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 40.4 | ||||||
W10-1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 40.4 | ||||||
W10-2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 33.9 | ||||||
W10-3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 32.6 | |||||||
W10-4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 29.9 | |||||||
W10-5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 28.6 | |||||||
W10-6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 28.6 | |||||||
W10-7 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 24.7 | ||||||||
W11-1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 24.7 | ||||||||
W11-2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 23.4 | ||||||||
W11-3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 22.1 | |||||||||
W11-4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 19.5 | |||||||||
W11-5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 18.2 | |||||||||
W11-6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 18.2 | |||||||||
W11-7 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 14.3 | ||||||||||
W12-1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 14.3 | ||||||||||
W12-2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 13.0 | ||||||||||
W12-3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 11.7 | |||||||||||
W12-4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 11.7 | |||||||||||
W12-5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 10.4 | |||||||||||
W12-6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 10.4 | |||||||||||
W12-7 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 9.1 | ||||||||||||
W13-1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 9.1 | ||||||||||||
W13-2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 7.8 | ||||||||||||
W13-3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 6.5 | |||||||||||||
W13-4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 6.5 | |||||||||||||
W13-5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 5.2 | |||||||||||||
W13-6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 5.2 | |||||||||||||
W13-7 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3.9 | ||||||||||||||
W14-1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3.9 | ||||||||||||||
W14-2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3.9 | ||||||||||||||
W14-3 | 1 | 1 | 2.6 | |||||||||||||||
W14-4 | 1 | 1 | 2.6 | |||||||||||||||
W14-5 | 1 | 1 | 2.6 | |||||||||||||||
W14-6 | 1 | 1 | 2.6 | |||||||||||||||
W14-7 | 1 | 1.3 |
Points of interest:
- Although we are injecting 500mg per week of testosterone, at no point do blood levels get anyway near 500mg. This actually makes a lot of sense if you think about it. Our natural testosterone production is somewhere around 7-10mg per day. So the 70mg per day peak on this cycle is 10x our natural amount.
- The cycle peaks at 71.6mg. This peak occurs three time with the first being week 7 day 4.
- We need to wait until week 2 day 4 for levels to reach 50% of their eventual peak.