aawwww, look at what I found, an hgh thread. haha. I'm just playing. Thanks for the kind words Grummpy. I have been known to do my research when it comes to hgh. I currently right now have 10 blood tests from over nine sponsors and have run I think 18 kits of hgh. I'm definitely not going to get into an argument about Peptides vs. Hgh because I think they both have a place in use for a numerous amount of goals. Peptides often seem to work quicker for some people but I do not think the results are as permanent. I truly believe that if you are looking into HGH that you do your research. I'm not just saying this to say this either, what I mean by doing your research is understanding what HGH really does to your body, understanding on what impact it could have on insulin resistance (or lack there of) and the effect it could possibly have joints. Now when people talk about organ growth and "GH Jaw" I always laugh my ass off. Those are at doses only a few could afford,(i'm talking 30-40iu's a day) which is more common than people realize. For me, I've found that 4-6 iu's a day yields the best results. I did try 10iu's every day for about 2 months and not only was that expensive but the comparative results were similar as that of 4-6ius. Shit, sorry guys, I have to cut this short, i got to go. I'll finish my though later.