Pro cycle?

Any one knows how much gear the pros use? And being a pro do they ever come completely off and do pct. I figured with all the talk about pct and getting back natural levels what would be the since of that if you dont come off? What about the older guys on try do they do pct?

Go read the black stone labs forum, there is a section with a pro there.

You answered your own question..PCT when you come OFF.. Most pros are on for life,trt.. but the use of HCG can still be beneficial to anyone who stays ON.. When their ON,its ON..Not many pros come off or to a PCT in the reference that you are thinking of..

This discussion has been had many times over but basically think grams and grams all the time never ending. Pros dont ever come off.
For trt thats a permanent thing. Theres no point in coming off to recover natural test production as there is none or not enough in the first place.

Falcon said:

This discussion has been had many times over but basically think grams and grams all the time never ending. Pros dont ever come off.
For trt thats a permanent thing. Theres no point in coming off to recover natural test production as there is none or not enough in the first place.

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Go read that section on BSL forum, the undercover pro goes into the cycling, use of GH, Insulin and has some example cycles. It will not be what you expect and many change up compounds every 4-6 weeks as opposed to the way many of us do it in 8-16 week intervals with the same things with the occasional change with tren or orals added in or dropped.

oufinny said:

Go read that section on BSL forum, the undercover pro goes into the cycling, use of GH, Insulin and has some example cycles. It will not be what you expect and many change up compounds every 4-6 weeks as opposed to the way many of us do it in 8-16 week intervals with the same things with the occasional change with tren or orals added in or dropped.

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just checked it out... THATS NUTS!!! What these guys are taking!

Yes it is crazy and just like Finny said, they change up compounds pretty frequently.

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just crazy.

Iconmuscle said:

Yes it is crazy and just like Finny said, they change up compounds pretty frequently.

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Proof that the whole notion of "it takes 6-8 weeks" to see effects is BS from the start. Doses they use are crazy as was the amount of adex that cycle had in it.

oufinny said:

Go read that section on BSL forum, the undercover pro goes into the cycling, use of GH, Insulin and has some example cycles. It will not be what you expect and many change up compounds every 4-6 weeks as opposed to the way many of us do it in 8-16 week intervals with the same things with the occasional change with tren or orals added in or dropped.

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Very well said, I think that people think that there is some secret weapon that they're using and we don't have access too. They take the same compounds that we here all have access to. Keep in mind that most pro's are what... mid 30's and have been lifting for 10-20 years nonstop. Also, with the amount of gear and food they consume over a period of time like that you are going to grow. One of my friends who's an IFBB pro laughs all the time when he see's these "supposed" cycles that members put up. Here's what allot of pros do do though... Like Oufinny said, allot of pros switch there gear more often than remaining on a dose for a prolonged time. Kind of like doing short high dosed blasts of a certain ester, even if it's as close as Cypionate and Enanthanate.

Here's an example of what a short high dosed mini cycle would look like... then on day 15 continue with maybe insilun with a high dose hgh & T3 for a couple weeks and then back on to blast with another mini cycle. Doing cycle's like this will SHOCK the body and induce extreme growth. Keep in mind that these pros are consuming thousands of calories from high quality sources and don't work a day job like you or me.
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1. 300MG Test. Propionate/50MG Dianabol
2. 300MG Test. Propionate/50MG Dianabol
3. 300MG Test. Propionate/50MG Dianabol
4. 300MG Test. Propionate/50MG Dianabol
5. 300MG Test. Propionate/50MG Dianabol
6. 200MG Test. Propionate/40MG Dianabol/100MG Primobolan Depot
7. 200MG Test. Propionate/40MG Dianabol/100MG Primobolan Depot
8. 200MG Test. Propionate/40MG Dianabol/100MG Primobolan Depot
9. 200MG Test. Propionate/40MG Dianabol/100MG Primobolan Depot
10. 200MG Test. Propionate/40MG Dianabol/100MG Primobolan Depot
11. 100MG Test. Propionate/30MG Dianabol/100MG Primobolan Depot /50MG Winstrol Depot
12. 100MG Test. Propionate/30MG Dianabol/100MG Primobolan Depot/50MG Winstrol Depot
13. 100MG Test. Propionate/30MG Dianabol/100MG Primobolan Depot/50MG Winstrol Depot
14. 100MG Test. Propionate/30MG Dianabol/100MG Primabolan Depot/50MG Winstrol Depot

Nice post Roids.

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Good info bro

The cycle from BSL...

This was the Olympia cycle for a top 6 guy. Someone you all know of.

1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th week:

ANDROGENIC/ANABOLIC:

SUSTANON (or OMNADREN) 250 mg - every other day
TESTOSTERON UNDECANOATE - 1000 mg (4ml shot, 250 mg/ml injections) - every Sunday
TRENBOLONE ACETATE 400 mg per week
DECA-DURABOLIN (Nandrolone Decanoate) 900 mg per week
OXANDROLONE (tablets) 60 mg/day (20 mg every 8 hours)
TURINABOL (tablets) 60 mg/day (20 mg every 8 hours)

ANTI-ESTROGENS:

2 mg ARIMIDEX (Anastrozole) per day
50 mg CLOMID (Clomiphene Citrate) - every day 25 mg in the morning + 25 mg 12 hours later

OTHER HORMONES:

Growth Hormone - 4 IU's ON EMPTY STOMACH and as many times a day as possible (up to 12 IU's a day)

Insulin - HUMALOG, 20 units 1 hour before every training, as scheduled

Thyroid:

T3 (Triiodothyronine) - 25 mcg per day (12.5 mcg morning + 12.5 mcg 12 hours later in the evening), first 2 weeks, than 37.5 mcg per day (25 mcg morning + 12.5 mcg 12 hours later in the evening) week #3 + week #4
T4 (Thyroxine)- 50 mcg per day (25 mcg in the morning + 25 mcg 12 hours later) first 2 weeks, than 100 mcg per day (50 mcg in the morning + 50 mcg 12 hours later) week #3 + week #4

XYREM - every night before sleep - 4.5 grams

5th, 6th, 7th, 8th week:

ANDROGENIC/ANABOLIC:

TESTOSTERONE Propionate 100 mg - every day
TESTOSTERON ENANTHATE 200 mg - every other day
TRENBOLONE Acetate 400 mg per week, week #5 + week #6
PRIMOBOLAN (Methelnolone) 600 mg per week, week #7 + week #8
EQUIPOSE (Boldenone) 600 mg per week
WINSTROL (Stanozolol) (tablets) 60 mg every day (20 mg every 8 hours)
OXYMETHOLONE (tablets) 150 mg per day (50 mg every 8 hours)

ANTI-ESTROGENS:

2-3 mg ARIMIDEX (Anastrozole) per day (1 mg in the morning, 1mg 12 hours later)

OTHER HORMONES:

Growth Hormone - 3-4 IU's ON EMPTY STOMACH and as many times a day as possible (12 to 16 units per day)

Insulin - HUMALOG, 15-20 units 1 hour before every training, as scheduled (depending on condition)

Thyroid:

T3 (Triiodothyronine) - 50 mcg per day (25 mcg morning + 25 mcg 12 hours later in the evening), first 2 weeks, than 75 mcg per day (37.5 mcg morning + 37.5 mcg 12 hours later in the evening) week #3 + week #4
T4 (Thyroxine)- 150 mcg per day (75 mcg in the morning + 75 mcg 12 hours later) first 2 weeks, than 200 mcg per day (100 mcg in the morning + 100 mcg 12 hours later) week #3 + week #4

XYREM - every night before sleeping 4.5 grams

9th, 10th, 11th, 12th week

ANDROGENIC/ANABOLIC:

TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE 200 mg - every day
MASTERON (Drostanolon Propionate) 600 mg per week
OXANDROLONE (tablets) 60 mg every day (20 mg every 8 hours)
PRIMOBOLAN (Methelnolone) 600 mg per week, week #9 + week #10
HALOTESTIN (Fluoxymesterone) (tablets) 30 mg/day (10 mg every 8 hours)
PROVIRON (Mesterolone)(tablets) 150 mg/day (50 mg every 8 hours)
WINSTROL (Stanozolol) (injections) 50mg every day on week #9, 100mg every day on week #10, 150 mg every day on week #11...

ANTI-ESTROGENS:

3 mg ARIMIDEX (Anastrozole) per day (1 mg in the morning, 1mg 12 hours later)

OTHER HORMONES:

Growth Hormone - 3-4 IU's ON EMPTY STOMACH and as many times a day as possible (12 to 16 units per day)

Insulin - HUMALOG, 10 - 20 units 1 hour before every training, DEPENDING ON CONDITION

Thyroid:
T3 - (Triiodothyronine) - DEPENDS ON YOUR CONDITION
T4 (Thyroxine) - DEPENDS ON YOUR CONDITION

XYREM - every night before sleeping 4.5 grams

You know what's funny about all of this is... Just imagine the syringe/needle prep that goes into one day for these top level guys. I mean think about it, you and I pin what, eod if that and on the hard cycles ed for a short period of time. These guys pin about 5-10 times a day in every manageable muscle group. When you think about it it's just crazy.

Well I can say that you would bea human pin cushion doing that. I will say once you do 2 grams of gear on a blast things really start to change fast and you look ridiculous week after week.